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Help selecting PC video editing software (vanity)
Self | 6/16/2011 | Redcell

Posted on 06/16/2011 8:12:00 PM PDT by RedCell

Greetings, fellow FReepers. I have a need for some video editing software. Currently running Windows 7 64-bit / AMD Phenom II X4 965 / 8 GB RAM / Radeon HD 6870 1 GB.

I'm trying to edit some video from my son's little league season. Dub out some of the more colorful language caught from over-zealous parents, add some music, transitions, simple effects. I have some experience with some basic software but I'm looking to get something that is intuitive while not breaking my bank (i.e. around $100 or less if at all possible).

My concern is that I've had hit-and-miss luck with the reliability of reviews and don't know if I have the patience to deal with demo versions since this is a bit of a time-sensitive project.

Any advice from you folks would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Computers/Internet; Hobbies; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: editing; software; video

1 posted on 06/16/2011 8:12:09 PM PDT by RedCell
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To: RedCell

In before the ‘get a Mac’ ping.


2 posted on 06/16/2011 8:13:14 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: DEADROCK

My son used Sony Vegas before he upgraded. Seemed happy with it.


3 posted on 06/16/2011 8:14:33 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: T. P. Pole

Which version. The top version is nearly $600.


4 posted on 06/16/2011 8:15:33 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: DEADROCK

I know, I know. ;-)


5 posted on 06/16/2011 8:15:45 PM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: RedCell

my son likes the windows movie maker... i prefer the final cut pro tools... i hear adobe is good... with a lot of tools that interact.

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6 posted on 06/16/2011 8:16:40 PM PDT by teeman8r (armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: RedCell

final cut pro


7 posted on 06/16/2011 8:18:13 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: RedCell

Adobe Premiere Elements is good for home stuff and is $79.


8 posted on 06/16/2011 8:19:32 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I am still looking for that box I am supposed to think out of.)
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To: T. P. Pole

Vegas is excellent. But is a bit more than $100. They offer a similar product for a lot less.


9 posted on 06/16/2011 8:20:12 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: RedCell
My preference is Pinnacle Studio (currently using ver 14). If you don't need all the extra "content" stuff, the basic version will more than likely do the job. I have been using it since ver 9 (don't know date but probably 10 years). Have edited hundreds of grandkids sports videos. Avid bought out Pinnacle about a year ago.

http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/Home+Video/Studio+Family/
10 posted on 06/16/2011 8:22:46 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Army Air Corps

I seem to remember getting it two Christmases ago for about 75. He upgraded to something in the $500 range, but used Vegas for about a year.


11 posted on 06/16/2011 8:22:55 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: Army Air Corps

I seem to remember getting it two Christmases ago for about 75. He upgraded to something in the $500 range, but used Vegas for about a year.


12 posted on 06/16/2011 8:22:57 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: T. P. Pole

Only bought one copy, though. :)


13 posted on 06/16/2011 8:23:58 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: RedCell

I have Adobe premiere and Cyberlink Power Director. My preference is the Adobe Premier Elements but Cyberlink PD has some “learning curve” to it. I would say WIN XP is like Premier and Win 7 is Cyberlink. Either way, it’s a win win.


14 posted on 06/16/2011 8:24:39 PM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: RedCell

Sony Vegas has a 30day free trial. v10.0e and 100% functional.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/trials/vegaspro

It’s pretty straight forward, it’ll you get moving fairly quickly. And best of all it’ll give 30 days to asses your needs better.

(I work with both suites, adobe and sony)


15 posted on 06/16/2011 8:24:45 PM PDT by ResearchMonkey (Holding Conservative Country in California.)
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To: RedCell

Try pinnacle, you can use it for free for 15 days, download.com


16 posted on 06/16/2011 8:25:07 PM PDT by big bad easter bunny
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To: RedCell

Have you looked at the Video Editing Software that came with your computer?

You might already have it on your computer.


17 posted on 06/16/2011 8:25:08 PM PDT by Jayster
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To: Army Air Corps

Link to prices and options:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegassoftware

The cheaper versions are basically the higher end programs with fewer features.

Have used Vegas for around 9 years and have been very happy with it.


18 posted on 06/16/2011 8:25:27 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: RedCell

I highly recommend Pinnacle Studio plus. It is versatile and has a lot of great features that make you look like an Academy Award winning film editor.

I’ve been using it for a couple of years and have had excellent results. I don’t recall exactly what I paid for it but I believe it might be in the range you are looking to spend.


19 posted on 06/16/2011 8:29:56 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: RedCell
Should clarify too that you need two pieces of software:

1. Video editor with a renderer.

2. DVD authoring software.

The video editor allows you to create titles, combine audio, splice scenes, etc. The DVD authoring software creates the screens and thumbnails along with the proper format for a DVD and burns the DVD.

20 posted on 06/16/2011 8:30:56 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

Same here (Studio Pro).


21 posted on 06/16/2011 8:32:33 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: teeman8r

> my son likes the windows movie maker... i prefer the final cut pro tools... i hear adobe is good... with a lot of tools that interact.

You’re correct just about anything you’d ever want to do can be done with it, and it’s free.
The biggest problem with it is that it will only use a few video formats. Get FormatFactory (also free) convert whatever you have into something movie maker compatible then you can pretty much do anything you want with video editing.


22 posted on 06/16/2011 8:35:41 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (In 2012 get rid of Obama and his Empire of Lies.)
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To: DEADROCK

I use Windows Live Photo Photo Gallery and Windows Love Movie Maker with Windows 7. Editing of videos takes a little practice but overall free and relatively easy to use.


23 posted on 06/16/2011 8:36:21 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: RedCell

Windows 7 includes a simple movie maker, not a lot of features but lets you make movies.

If you’re looking for something more powerful Adobe Premier Elements. Its a cut down version of the best software Adobe Premier and is only $ 99.


24 posted on 06/16/2011 8:40:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Army Air Corps

A really good product. A little pricey but the upgrades make it affordable.

I have 9.0. Does an excellent job of creating HD movies.


25 posted on 06/16/2011 8:42:57 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: RedCell; All

Thanks for all your speedy replies.

I’ve downloaded a demo of Vegas to give it a spin. I’ve had pinnacle before and I found it to be rather cumbersome (albeit running on my last system which was a LOT slower).

Take care!


26 posted on 06/16/2011 8:46:28 PM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: RedCell
I use Avidemux to stitch together time-lapse videos.

It's free, and it might be all you need.

27 posted on 06/16/2011 9:08:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: RedCell
Rendering can take a while depending on your pc.

Also, you need to size the video and audio so that it will fit on a DVD. Size is set by the bit rate times the duration. And you don't want to exceed 8Mb/sec. Some players will choke on higher bit rates.

Audio: choices are PCM and Dolby Digital. With DD you get more compression and more space for the Video. More space for the video means higher video bit rate. DD also requires a measurement of the RMS value of the audio in order to center the audio within the profile properly. Probably best to stick with PCM.

A nice feature with DD is 5.1 surround sound. Yes, you can actually create your own multi-channel audio.

Try burning to a DVD-rw first. Burning will take long but you won't waste DVDs.

Good luck!

28 posted on 06/16/2011 9:12:01 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

My son has one of the lower-end Vegas programs with a few add-ons, and he’s been happy with it, except he has a crappy laptop and it takes forever to process his stuff.

I’m about to get an I-5 processor to see if it will speed him up.


29 posted on 06/16/2011 9:14:57 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Yup. Rendering MPEG2 takes time. Twice as long if you chose two pass VBR. VBR (variable bit rate) applies higher bit rate for scenes that need it. Thus, better quality video.

CBR (constant bit rate) is single pass and renders faster.

You might want to check these settings.

Either way, it takes time.


30 posted on 06/16/2011 9:24:14 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: RedCell

Upgraded from Video Vegas Pro 5 to 10 to get HD capability—got the early bird special upgrade for 150 USD. Very happy with it, I can watch smooth running previews at 1080p on my 1920X1080 monitor. This from 1080P Quicktime files (MP4) Using this proc: Intel i7 2.8GHz.

Sometimes you can find an old version real cheap. Get it, use it, then get the next early bird special when Vegas Pro 11 comes out.


31 posted on 06/16/2011 9:24:42 PM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (A weiner a day keeps the other bad news away....)
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Thanks, again, for the all the replies. dhs, I’m not sure I understood a quarter of what you said but I’ll google it to figure it out. Looks/feels like an “A” wrt sound advice.

Anyway, I’m about 7 minutes into my video and it’s coming along great. Need to hit the sack so take care all.


32 posted on 06/16/2011 11:41:16 PM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: RedCell
One of my customers, who is a professional, is using a program called lightworks. They are going open source so it's free

http://www.lightworksbeta.com/

33 posted on 06/17/2011 4:02:33 AM PDT by johncatl (...governs least, governs best.)
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Wow, that is really, really cool. Add that to Blender for 3D and node compositing, GIMP for photo manipulation, Audacity for audio editing...you have a fairly complete tool kit there!

I wonder if there’s a good, high quality (and FREE) DVD authoring program a la Adobe Encore out there....?


34 posted on 06/17/2011 4:10:19 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: RedCell
Ping me if you have any questions.

I learned most of it from trial and error. And there are tons of things you can do with Vegas. It has a very powerful audio section and video control is excellent.

It has the fun stuff too like making the video look old (which I don't use). Lots of transitions, etc.

Also, Vegas is only the front end. You'll need the back end DVD mastering software, too. Actually, you can use pretty much any mastering/burner software once the video is in a generic MPEG2 format.

Curious to find out what you get with the demo — do you get the mpeg2 renderer (Main Concept)? You can render to wmv and mov (Windows media and Apple Quicktime) and the various Ipod formats. The new versions will allow you to render HD MPEG2 and H.264 and burn to a blueray disk. Looks nice on an HD TV.

Other features:

1. you can render over the network (across multiple PCs). Rendering takes a lot of PC horsepower and being able to split the work across multiple PCs will reduce the time.

2. you can create animated backgrounds and thumbnails in the DVD.

Sorry... going on a bit.

35 posted on 06/17/2011 11:44:23 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345
Will do. The version of Vegas I downloaded was the most inexpensive one ($49.99), can't recall the name of it now... something Homestudio HD 9 or something? All I'm doing at this point is bringing in various clips, trimming them and adding music. I did a couple of slo-mo effects but that's about as far as I've gotten.

My goal is to import everything I think would look good and then whittle it down from there so it doesn't take forever to render. My goal is about a 10-15 minute video. I'm using Sony PBR to create by DVD’s and so far it's working out OK.

If anything else comes up, I'll ping you. Thanks, again.

Take care.

36 posted on 06/17/2011 12:47:24 PM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: Future Snake Eater
Wow, that is really, really cool. Add that to Blender for 3D and node compositing, GIMP for photo manipulation, Audacity for audio editing...you have a fairly complete tool kit there! I wonder if there’s a good, high quality (and FREE) DVD authoring program a la Adobe Encore out there....?

There might be something here for you. http://www.ilovefreesoftware.com/08/featured/6-best-free-dvd-authoring-freeware-to-create-dvds-from-home-movies.html

37 posted on 06/17/2011 3:10:04 PM PDT by johncatl (...governs least, governs best.)
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