Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Powerboat motors out of river, slams into gazebo
MSNBC ^ | 6/20/11 | Joe Hyer

Posted on 06/21/2011 9:38:57 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

It might just be one of the oddest DWI cases in recent memory — a powerboat sliced right into a gazebo off the Toms River over the weekend.

The boat's driver was charged with DWI, according to The Asbury Park Press.

The 40-foot boat slammed into the gazebo outside of Ann and George Schuld's home in Berkeley Township, N.J., around 10:30 Saturday night. Ann is a popular local realtor. She and George were out dancing when it happened. Ann's cell phone lit up.

"I thought someone had died," she told Berkeley Patch reporter Patricia A. Miller...

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: boat; gazebo; napl

1 posted on 06/21/2011 9:39:01 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

“Hold mah beer!, an’ watch this!”


2 posted on 06/21/2011 9:41:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; Army Air Corps

Every few years some news channel does a special about the carnage cause by drunk boating.

Nothing funny about it.


3 posted on 06/21/2011 9:43:13 PM PDT by sinanju
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Wow, 40 footer, twin screw, that’s about 100 grand shot to hell.


4 posted on 06/21/2011 9:46:49 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

So boats, just like SUVs go out of control and crash into things on their own now?


5 posted on 06/21/2011 9:47:18 PM PDT by matt04
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

6 posted on 06/21/2011 9:58:43 PM PDT by Huntress ("Politicians exploit economic illiteracy." --Walter Williams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Huntress

JW Pepper: “You go ahead an’ call my brother in law Billy Bob. He’s got the fastest boat on this whole damn river. Go ahead, call Billy Bob. He ain’t no pixie ass!”


7 posted on 06/21/2011 11:43:28 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (We live two lives, the life we learn and the life we live with after that.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

whoops. Sorry about that.


8 posted on 06/21/2011 11:47:45 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sinanju

We have the Fox Chain of Lakes here where I am at (northern Illinois), and in the past 10 years, they’ve had to actually put police boats on the lake because of the fatalities and horrendous accidents.

There is an island on one of the lakes that sports a bar called Blarney’s Island. They used to host boat drags from the bar to the shore. You can imagine what happens next....

I think they still have the drags, but there are police boats all over, making safety checks (must have boat up to safety code, etc) and giving breathalyzers.

A friend of mine still moors a summer boat on that chain, and he tells that if you get a DUI on a boat, they will suspend your regular drivers license, just the same as if you got a DUI on the road. I have no verification of this, just hearsay, and I’m not a lawyer, so not sure how hard it would be to beat.

Also, what if your kid was driving the boat or someone without a license? I was kind of curious how that would work.


9 posted on 06/22/2011 3:33:17 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: esoxmagnum
I was kind of curious how that would work

You have to look up the laws in your jurisdiction, but I suspect there isn't any difference anymore.

10 posted on 06/22/2011 3:56:57 AM PDT by EVO X
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; null and void; Slings and Arrows
The 40-foot boat slammed into the gazebo outside of Ann and George Schuld's home in Berkeley Township, N.J., around 10:30 Saturday night. Ann is a popular local realtor.

Location location location ping.

11 posted on 06/22/2011 4:01:31 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
That happens on Lake Travis every year, especially when it is low as it is this year. Never saw one hit any structure, but the idiots don't know the lake at night, even though there are lit buoys in the center of the channel.

Several years ago, there were two of those cigarette boats on the bank of a park. One was 180 paces from the water. The year we moved to the lake, I went fishing at that park and there was an 86 ft yacht on the bank.

Twin screw diesel and the guy had to call his wife. He had taken his girlfriend out and grounded the thing. Then he had to get a 100 ton crane to pick it up and get it back into the water. The engines ran, but neither prop turned.

12 posted on 06/22/2011 5:54:00 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ezekiel; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
Another brave hero fallen to the Dread Gazebo.


13 posted on 06/22/2011 12:42:25 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Slings and Arrows

It’s not my fault!


14 posted on 06/22/2011 12:58:19 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Slings and Arrows

No one can defeat the Dread Gazebo. [whimper]


15 posted on 06/22/2011 1:01:45 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Slings and Arrows

Was Eric driving the boat?


16 posted on 06/22/2011 1:02:14 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Not sposed to get frisky while drinkin whiskey when drivin...


17 posted on 06/22/2011 1:05:10 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare

Yeah, and he got a crit on his skill check.


18 posted on 06/22/2011 1:07:22 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Slings and Arrows

Boat of Bashing +5


19 posted on 06/22/2011 1:08:50 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: esoxmagnum

A lot of jurisdictions (mine included) will suspend a drivers’ licence for impaired boating.


20 posted on 06/22/2011 1:10:21 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- mission accomplished)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: esoxmagnum

Greetings esoxmagnum:

Yes, in Illinois, the crime is Operating Under the Influence; it doesn’t matter what one is operating. And the Chain of Lakes with connecting Fox River is such a dangerous waterway, I would never take my family boating upon those waters.

Performed many Chain of Lakes underway hours in the law enforcement mode. Never had to look for a drunk boater; the drunk boater always came to us. While we were busy writing a USCG Notice of Violation, (as fast as we could), we would witness dozens of boaters eligible for a field sobriety test.

Cheers,
OLA


21 posted on 06/22/2011 5:06:15 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: OneLoyalAmerican

That Blarneys Island was a mecca for drunken boating in the 70’s and 80’s, and sitting on Grass Lake which is only a few feet deep, coupled with boats capable of 100mph plus it was always a recipe for disaster.

As kids, we never looked at it that way, at least when your in your early 20’s and invincible. But I agree, we wouldn’t take our kids there. We sold property we had in northern WI on a no - wake lake because the WI DNR woudn’t enforce the no wake, and jet ski’s had taken over. Again, jet ski’s & booze = bad results.

But, here is my question, what happens if you don’t have a license and are operating a boat under the influence? As far as I can remember, you didn’t need a drivers license in Illinois to drive a boat.

And thanks for the answer, it sounds as if we got lucky on a thread and found someone directly involved .


22 posted on 06/22/2011 10:05:49 PM PDT by esoxmagnum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: esoxmagnum
Greetings esoxmagnum:

what happens if you don’t have a license and are operating a boat under the influence?

Doesn't matter. Operate under the influence in Illinois: become an overnight guest at a local steel bar hotel. When USCG determines OUI, the Boarding Officer charges the individual under federal law with negligent operations; then turns the offender over to local police, who process the subject offender under the host state's OUI statute.

As far as I can remember, you didn’t need a drivers license in Illinois to drive a boat.

That's correct, only professional mariner's require a operator's license; however, IIRC, Lake County sells some sort of "user's permit;" which the county might revoke for an OUI conviction.

Cheers,
OLA

23 posted on 06/22/2011 10:36:29 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: OneLoyalAmerican; sinanju; Slings and Arrows

I, for one, will only be happy when the problem of impaired pedestrians and fly-fishermen are also taken care of.

What we need is more Law Enforcement. MORE, and MORE, and MORE!

I am terribly ashamed of those days in which so-called “Parents” had the nerve to drive their children around without government-approved car-seats and when a fisherman could quaff a six-pack on a Saturday without being arrested by Officials, losing his job and having his life ruined for being over the legal limit.

No, it’s never happened to me, but I’d be damned proud to hand my life, my freedom, and my property over to whomsoever in blue, in order to defend their notion of a little bit of Public Safety.

What’s more, our neighborhoods are safer now. Our children are safer. Our lives are more enjoyable. And why?

More laws, more monitoring, more cameras, and more POLICE!

With just a little more of all of these wonderful things, I can honestly see our silly society turning into something, well, quite Utopian.


24 posted on 06/23/2011 12:23:40 PM PDT by golux
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: golux
Greetings golux:

Chain o' Lakes is unique. Kindly read this and get back to me, my FReeper FRiend. The PUBLIC, better known as "We the People," demanded an increase in maritime law enforcement presence.

Cheers,
OLA

25 posted on 06/23/2011 1:07:57 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: OneLoyalAmerican

Here’s perhaps the “key” or most critical excerpt from what you asked me to read:

“Another worry, he said, is drinking. There are about 40 boat-accessible saloons in the Chain. All too frequently, boaters watch Thursday night boat races on Grass Lake, then crash into each other on the way home.

(when? Always? When? Oh we never find out.)

“We consider drinking and boating one of the major causes of accidents on the water up there,” Wakolbinger said. “We are trying to use increased enforcement and education to slow it down.”

(Jeez! Things must be really terrible! How much money do you need to save our lives?)

Lake County has had no boating fatalities so far in 1997, perhaps in part because of the sobering effect of a two-boat collision that killed three people on July 11, 1996, on Nippersink Lake.”

There are three paragraphs here. The first is an opinion about why boaters go fast: because they have been to a bar and seen a race on TV. The second is another opinion, and the third is a tragic reminder of a couple of deaths fifteen years ago and another opinion about how, fourteen years ago, there were fewer deaths because laws changed that year.

In that year, 1996-7, I personally lost three friends in a Volvo 760 near Williamsburg, including (perhaps) the love of my life.

Is that significant to you? Probably not. They were killed by a Mexican trucker.

But it’s the same number of people. It was a Volvo. Should I sue Volvo?

I understand your point, but please understand also:

Our Freedoms are ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS limited in the name of “SAFETY.” Washington and Franklin and even Hamilton knew it.

Will you think on it too?


26 posted on 06/23/2011 4:07:38 PM PDT by golux
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: golux
Greetings golux:

Understanding, after Orlando Sentinal takeover of the formerly "World's Greatest Newspaper," Chicago Tribune normally doesn't lets facts stand in the way of a story; perhaps you missed this: The Chain is also considered one of the nation's busiest bodies of water. And this: operator Arnold "Dick" Carlson, 56, of McHenry, had a blood-alcohol level of 0.179, cocaine in his system, a record of drunken driving, including three revocation of driving privileges.

USCG was ordered to Chain o' Lakes in the summer 1996; result: zero boating fatalities. BTW, all the non-fatality reported property damage collisions in the story are between drunk boaters and a law enforcement vessel. Isn't that special?

Never the less, we insist Alexander Hamilton's first letter of instruction is folowed by our Boarding Officers:

"...will always keep in mind that their countrymen are freemen, and, as such, are impatient of everything that bears the least mark of a domineering spirit... They will endeavor to overcome difficulties, if any are experienced, by a cool and temperate perseverance in their duty – by address and moderation, rather than by vehemence or violence."

Bottom line: It's not against the law to drink and boat; only against the law to operate while intoxicated. Operators failing a field sobriety test challenge findings with chemical breath analysis. The intoxicated operators are cited with negligent operations and passed to the local authorities.

Cheers,
OLA

27 posted on 06/23/2011 10:02:45 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson