Skip to comments.Road rage causes woman to lose hand; Tips coming in
Posted on 06/22/2011 8:29:52 PM PDT by Morgana
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Tips are now coming in for a story we first brought you last week involving a woman who lost her hand in a road rage crash.
It's not a crash that 52-year-old Pamela Price will ever forget.
"I have nightmares every time I go to sleep," says Pamela Price.
On Friday, Pamela was released from University Hospital after a more than two week stay.
It all stemmed from a Memorial Day crash.
The New Albany woman says she passed a car as she was heading westbound on Indiana 265, that then sped up and she says intentionally caused her to crash.
"There was no doubt about it. Just as soon as he pulled over in front of me he stomped his brakes on," says Pamela Price.
Pamela says the white man, who appeared to be in his mid-50's, with salt and pepper colored hair, drove away in his black Lincoln, which had Indiana license plates.
Pamela crashed and was ejected from her truck. Luckily, a nurse and man with a cooler stopped to help. Her hand had to be re-attached.
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Sounds like she panicked and is an unsafe driver.
If her story is true, then the other guy might be a hot head.
Do those tips include the tips of her fingers?
Wow, she crashed so hard she broke her seatbelt.< /s >
Years ago we were attacked in a road rage incident. We had a baby in the car, and this guy (who was mad at us I think for traveling too slowly) sped up, pulled in front of us, and backed into us, stopping and screeching his brakes, all at high speed.
He did it several times. This was on a major thoroughfare with a lot of witnesses. We did nothing to make him that mad. I’ll never forget it.
IMHO, this guy is probably not with us today. People that get that angry and are that reckless on the road end up out of the gene pool. I just hope he didn’t take anyone else with him.
It usually takes two to road rage. She likely wasn’t brake-jacked for no reason.
On the other hand, she had.....
I had something similar occur out on a country road when I encountered a truck full of yoots.
I got a CHL within the month.
Where do you get that from?
Sounds like she had her hand out the window, rolled and that caused the amputation. Hard to say. The story is lacking in details.
It doesn't sound like she was merely being passive, if she were, she would merely have slowed down and when he braked she would have braked also, instead she totally wrecks and is ejected from the vehicle, something is wrong with her driving.
BS stories always have the bad guy driving away in a black car.
I'm just sayin.
Road rage does happen for no reason
You can set off a nut for absolutely no rational reason
Going too slow, trying to pass, pulling into his traffic lane, blowing your horn, or just for looking sideways
Ever try to pass someone on a country road at night? Think you deserve death for that?
One night some years ago we pulled out to pass another driver and this enraged him, he repeatedly sped up, slowed down, wouldn’t let us pass, wouldn’t let us not pass, and for several wracking minutes refused to let our family back into the lane, even though a truck was coming at us head on
Luckily we braked and slipped in behind him just as the truck went by, then he played the “hit the brakes” routine
Then the nut kept going, is still out there as far as anyone could tell
Sometimes when there is a fatal accident for no known cause I wonder if someone caused it out of rage
She is engaged in a road rage incident, at the conclusion of which, the guy does the oldest, most common, angry, FU goodbye of all, he speeds ahead of her and brakes menacingly.
She knew the situation, she watched all this taking place, and she watched him accelerating to get in front of her, yet without even any actual contact, she some how manages to have a violent wreck that breaks her out of her seat belt and causes a serious, single vehicle accident, so violent that she is ejected.
This woman was up to more than simply trying to mind her own business.
I had a couple of instances in dealing wit buffoons on the road. One time back in 1985 and back in the 55 mph days, I was traveling through Southern Ohio on a 4 lane divided highway, I came up behind a left lane bandit. You had cars in the right lane doing 50 or 55. When an open came up, the LLB would not move over and when there was an opening in the right lane, I try to pass him and he would speed up and I would be doing 65 or 70 until I encounter a car in the right lane. I then go back to the left lane and he would drop the speed back to 55. After trying to pass several times, I was finally able to get around him and he started blink his lights and honk horns and was pointing to his dash.
Antoerh instance was recently in California. There were dual left turn lanes to get to the on-ramp for the interstate. In the right lane was a truck and in the left was a vehicle like a Suzuki Sidekick. As soon as the light turned green, the truck took off at a good speed, not typical of work trucks. The Sidekick which had an older woman inside took off and drove very slowly on the turn. I thought, she is going to merge onto the highway so slowly so I went into the right lane and passed her then she speeded up and look in the mirror, I got shaking fist and a middle digit. Looking bac in the mirror, she was going onto the highway pretty slowly. I usually like to be going 70 mph when I merge on.
This happened to my son last night.
He tried to pass a car. The car moved into his lane, then slowed way down.
My son waited, then tried to pass on the right. (I know, bad move - but it is done here all the time.)
The car then sped up and deliberately swerved into my son and drove him off the road.
My son almost hit a telephone pole.
As the car sped off, the driver flipped him off.
There are jerks everywhere.
A few years ago, on my way home from work (night-shift) .. I had some azzhat tail-gating me on the interstate.
I’d speed up and so would he.
I’d change lanes and so would he.
I finally got pi$$ed to the point that after the 4th or 5th time of speeding up and having this guy on my a$$ .. I slammed on the brakes!
Luckily .. The azzhat behind me knew how to drive .. He was a ‘cop’! 8(
An acquaintence of mine ran off the road and plowed into a huge stump a couple of blocks from his house, totaling his pickup. He had swerved to avoid a deer.
At least that is what he told the cops. What really happened is that he was so drunk he could not drive and just, well, ran off the road. Without more detail, I’m guessing this story is similarly fabricated, though there may not be alcohol involved.
I’ve always made a distinction between a psycho behind the wheel and road rage. Anybody who has driven for very long has encountered one. Best thing to do is back off, let them go, get off that road and change routes. My example would be the first day driving back to the office after my father passed away.
I was driving carefully because I felt out of it, had felt that way since I got the call, to come to the hospital. Almost to the office, pulled up behind an older GM sedan, elderly black man driving. It was in town, so traffic in several lanes, we were in the left. He puttered on after the green light, me in no hurry either, he moved right and we coast up to the next light, then stop.
I see him gesticulating out of the corner of my eye, I thought he was trying to tell me something was wrong with my car, low tire or something. Let the passenger window down and asked him what was wrong. “Why you shine a light down on me, mother&*Y#er, I’ll bust a cap in your @#$,” then incoherent rambling rising in volume and pitch. Took a while to separate myself, we were in traffic, and he was brandishing a gun by that time.
So, I know that can happen. That wasn’t road rage to me, he was just nuts. All I can figure is, the car was practically new and had those bluish halogens, maybe he thought they were high beams? I don’t know. It was weird.
The lady in question certainly was following closely, for someone hitting the brakes to send her off the road. She doesn’t sound all that uninvolved to me.
That seems to be the way it works... Similar incident with final outcome: Years ago, I would drive to my job up in Nashville (about 45 miles one way) and on Wednesdays after work would go to church on the way home. This meant going south on a surface street as opposed to traveling south on I-65. Every Wednesday I would encounter this road rager driving a Ford with the licence plate "FOTO"... It didn't matter who was in front of him, they weren't going fast enough. He hacked me off the first couple of times, but then it got to be an amusement on the way to church on Wednesdays. I would just stay on the speed limit and let him rant back there behind me... I mean there wasn't a lot I could do to go faster anyway - it was afternoon rush hour and traffic was very heavy. And so it went, every Wednesday... He would work his way around me and flip me off, then start on the next person in front of him with the same antics. Now this is not just your normal "cussing out loud and flipping them off" kind of guy. He sticks his head out the window and hurls every possible insult that he can think of at you, and gives you the old one finger salute at the same time. I was at no point ever really threatened by him, because I knew what equipment I had in the car and what I am capable of doing with said equipment.
That was not the case one afternoon when he went after a lady on her way home from work... She got scared and started driving faster, but could not get out of his way. He just kept on her back bumper, screaming at her, shaking his fist at her, and honking the horn... She finally slowed her car and pulled her car over to the shoulder hoping he would go around - he was so steamed at this point that he pulled in behind her and continued his nastiness. She was now even more scared and took off as fast as she could. He did the same. She suddenly had to slam on her brakes due to traffic and he had to swerve around her to the right to keep from hitting her - while he screamed at her with his head out the window. Well guess what... He should have been looking where he was going... His car left the road, struck (at speed) an immovable object, and he was decapitated by his seat belt. To add to the already terrifying incident that the poor lady went through, his airborne head struck the right side of her car leaving a bloody mess. Now this is a true story... When I heard about the incident, I just thought to myself "Yes, he finally got taken off of the road..." To add insult to injury, the D.A. prosecuted the lady. Thank goodness he was unsuccessful.
Moral to the story: If you don't keep your head while behind the wheel, you might just lose your head.
I had a guy do that to me back in the mid-70’s. I was in a gutless chevy vega gt with the new-fangled 60 series radial tires and he was in a GTO with big drag slicks in the back. He passed to get in front of me and then backed off to 35 (in a 45). Every time I tried to pass, he just sped up. So I backed a few hundred yards off and floored it, finally getting up to 70 (it was a very straight road and it was night). He gunned it as I passed but did not judge my speed. He could not keep up with my momentum.
He followed me for about a quarter mile where I made a HARD turn onto another road. He turned and slid across the intersection and flew over the ditch to embed his car deeply into a 10 foot dirt embankment.
In my life, I’ve been chased by five drivers. Two of them wrecked their cars and one just didn’t have the top speed. It was I-90 in eastern Montana. My governor is at 140 MPH (Chrysler 300M) while his Grand Cherokee’s is at 105 MPH. There were two of them together, actually. I topped out at 140 and lost them and every time I backed off to 90 they would catch up. So I lost them a last time and exited the freeway to get gas. Hitting an off-ramp at around 90 is an interesting experience. Brakes matter.
>>If her story is true, then the other guy might be a hot head.<<
I’m not seeing enough evidence to convince me he exists. And if I know cops, they are pursuing the same idea.
Hmmm interesting take. Have you ever been involved in a ‘road rage’ incident?
About 25 years ago I was in my IROC z28 traveling down I44 and some punks decided to do the same thing to me even though they could have simply passed in the passing lane.
I was caught between the concrete guardrail and heavy traffic in the passing lane. Damn near caused a fatal crash as I had to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting the jerks.
I was calm but my friend left a mess in the passenger seat.
Anyway, it happens.
I didn’t get the same thing out of this story as you.
I have been involved in countless road rage incidents.
After reading several more accounts of this accident, I am getting more suspicious, she passed the other car (a mystery car), because he was going too slow, and then he passes her and brakes, she panics and hits the guard rail and flips several times, it sounds like she was just flying along at a high speed, and she wasn’t wearing her seat belt, the 30 year dog groomer was coming home from dinner with friends.
The police don’t seem to have anything else to say, and they don’t seem to be offering any more details on the mystery car.
Interesting. This account is all I’ve seen (not doubting you ansel) and I just don’t give a damn enough to research any more accounts. I’ll just take your word for it. I don’t know what she would gain by lying but hey...people are unhinged these days.
We know it was a white guy in a Lincoln. That's more than the press typically reports.
The other accounts don’t say anything different than this one except making clear that the truck flipped, which most of us probably assumed.
It is the vagueness, and the seeming lack of passion by the police on the mystery car, that makes the old hairs tingle a little bit.
Witnesses are mentioned, but they never mention the black car.
I’m suspicious of this one, besides nothing changes the fact that she self destructed, she never even touched the other vehicle, at best, she was engaged in the game at a high speed and careless distances.
It has been 23 days the family is offering a reward, and I think this story will just fade away.
I suspect the LLB's "rage" was not that you attempted to beat him at the duel of the highway, but that he was one of Keirsey's "Supervisor Guardians" that was determined to force you to strictly obey the mandated speed limit. He blocked the left lane to prevent anyone from speeding down the highway. A self anointed civic enforcer!
She was actively aggressive herself, or she would have slowed down behind the other driver in spite of anything he might have attempted to do to her.
That is it in a nut shell, and we all know that.
I often heard them called "Chick Cars," but they were pretty impressive.
Canooker Hockey League? I guess if you towed a motor home full of players around, they could beat 'em up at the next stop light...
I have a CDL. Stopped right now off the I-10 in AZ about 30 miles from a morning load of watermelons headed for Sparks, Roseville, Sacramento and San Francisco.
Just unloaded earlier today to a WalMart DC (distribution center) in Casa Grande with a heavy load from an Americold in Salt Lake. Came the Glenn Canyon way, through Page, then Flagstaff AZ. Got THE last parking spot at the Little America in Flagstaff last night. There was a guy parked crooked, made the space narrow and hard to back (a 53' trailer) into in the dark. That may be why it wasn't taken. But I put 'er in. It was a little tight but do-able.
Nice and cool up that high (7,000ft elevation) at night. Was 112 in Casa Grande. Told the WalMart folks, "nope, I'm not going to open the trailer doors (to a minus 10deg F load) until you are ready to begin unloading". "BUT! You WILL sign me in, because I'm NOT LATE!!! Don't you dare stamp that paperwork 'late'!" "
That caused a ruckus. Hehheh...but the warehouse foreman saw things my way. I dropped the trailer in front of the assigned door, then the yard goat driver had to come open the doors and push it back to the dock doors, about 2 hrs after I arrived.
All of which irritated the yard guy, but kept things cooler, saved on reefer fuel, and still kept wild forklift drivers safe from stupid truck drivers that might try and yank a trailer away from a door while a forklift is going in or out. Guys have died that way...
WalMart DC's makes one open the trailer doors, back in, dolly down and disconnect the tractor from the trailer before checking in...
I moved my tandems too. Don't always, but perhaps should. Some places demand it. Others could care less.
Don't ride or drive right next to motor freight. Don't pull in front of a truck, then slow down. Particularly on downgrades. We DO own the road. We pay for it. Stay out of my way. Modern highways were and are designed for motor freight. It's how and why we can move things around cheaply and efficiently enough,that we all benefit economically and in other ways...
Don't believe me? Go drive some old-fashioned 2 lane US highway blacktop --- then carefully consider why modern Interstates were designed (back in the Eisenhower era) the way they are. Think all of that is for cars? Fat chance.
The PA turnpike cost me more than a hundred $$$'s in tolls, 1 way, last time. Crossing Ohio cast about $30 three times. New Mexico waved me down at the Westbound scales near Texas a couple a few weeks ago (more like a guy came charging out of his little chicken shack furiously waving his arms, and pointing for me to park behind the BIG chickencoop. $38.20 just to drive across New Mexico on I-10. Colorado got me last week at the Lamar scales on US 287 coming up from Amarillo. $20.05. What's up with the nickel? I have no idea...at least they didn't give me a level 2 inspection while they were at it. Having an expired IFTA is the problem. Truck owner keeps threatening to fax it to me. Claims he sent it this morning (to the Little America I'd just left). I think he's lying to me. The guy lies all the time it seems. Haven't been paid in a month, either. Not since I started driving this particular rig. I'm in a foul mood. Like I said, stay out of the way. I got 'chur road rage churnin'...
I've driven probably something around 15,000+ miles in the last 4 1/2 weeks. I could tell you about dumb car drivers... but saw something funny today. On I-17 there was a car alongside the road. Get closer, I see a little feller about 4 or 5 years old about 20 paces from the car, away from the road, pants down, taking a leak ( I assume). What was funny was dad. He ran out from the car toward the kid, snapped a photo, then trotted/slunked back toward his car grinning. Had to laugh.
Ok you opened a door. LOL
Mine was fire-engine red, spoiler on the back and T-tops. It was the hottest thing around and it sounded as mean as it looked.
I had a love affair with that car. Waxed it almost every weekend. I mean if someone tried to sit on it (they didn’t dare) they would have slid to the ground. Bought special covers for it so when I wasn’t driving it, it would be ‘protected’ LOL! sheesh.... I guess youth is truly wasted on the young.
A cop pulled me over one nite (was doing 75 in a 30 stretch on a county road). He loved the car and I managed to ‘talk’ my way out. *sigh*
See...should of never brought it up. :)
If it had been a black guy in a Cadillac, we never would have heard it.
Concealed Handgun License
I was doing 89 (clocked by HP) on a narrow bridge and up the following curved hill, when I was stopped. He asked me if I knew how fast I was going and I had to laugh, “Not a clue...” I said. My stellar driving record saved me from a ticket, thank the Lord. ;-D I was in scrubs, had my name tag on a lanyard, and the tunes cranked up, on my way to work at the ER.
Oh, that road was fun. Very twisty two-lane country hway, I should probably be dead.
*snicker* Those were the days...well I don’t know when your incident took place; just assuming around that period of time (mid 80’s).
When the cop pulled me over, being the cocky smart alec that I was, I demanded to know how he was sure that his radar was accurate at which point he told me ‘to step out of my car’. LOL Then he told me to get in his patrol car and I did . Turns out that (at that time) they calibrated their radar equipment with tuning forks.. He gave me a demonstration. It was quite interesting. Each ‘fork’ had it’s own range and registered on the radar gun. There was no denying that I was speeding...but, was able to talk my way out of it. You too huh? lol...
Good times, good times....
It was 2002. I had a brand new Hyundai Elantra, don’t laugh, rack and pinion steering, six cylinder, five forward gears on a standard shift, GREAT sound, a lot of fun to drive, and like you, I detailed that baby from stem to stern every weekend. I even polished the tires.
Sadly it now has 175K on the odometer, no repairs needed yet but getting old, like me. I haven’t pushed it very much the last few years, just little old lady driving.
He said he’d have to give me a ticket, and I said, “Let me just call my husband at the sheriff’s office, he will never live this down when everyone finds out,” so maybe that did it. I didn’t know him, but he knew everyone at the S.O. The limit was 55 on that stretch of two lane with a 35 curve caution that I routinely ignored, big time.
Hey! If the car will do it....! And there’s only one way to find out if it will.... ;-D
LOL...probably made that cop think twice when you told him that.
*sigh*..well I no longer have mine. Traded it for a pickup...454 SS chevy...limited edition. What was I thinking? lol
Anyway, life has been good and also fun (certain aspects anyway). Glad we made it through alive aren’t you? :)
Sorry, FOUR cylinder, but ran like 6. Smallish auto.
I’d love to have another pickup. I drove a toyota pu into the ground, over 300K miles on it when I gave it to a poor person — didn’t do him any favors, I’m sure it needed a lot of work after he got it.
But I’d really like to have a brand new Elantra. Those are some super fun autos...
The story says it’s not a criminal case,....yet. If she was attacked by another driver, there would be charges. If not true, then she gets the charges for a false report. Apparently, her story is lacking something. Normally there would be an APB for a black Lincoln with a bashed in trunk. A car is a weapon and is treated as such by law enforcement. If he was just in an accident and left the scene, he gets a ticket for that.
Pickups are great..had to get rid of mine because of a downturn in employment. Went to a Jetta (truly the greatest little vehicle...gas mileage and stamina), (those Japanese and Germans know how to make great cars) then to a Jeep Wrangler Sport, which I still own 150xxx miles and still runs like a top. Best part..I own it.
Not into fancy anymore. A great old Ford Pickup would suit me fine. :)
Fortunately, she said it was a white guy. Had she said anything else, and proven a liar, she would be charged with a “hate crime.”
Such incidents aren’t worth the drama and are best avoided, even if it means stopping or taking a detour.
I would not want to be a truck driver today with all of the gov’t micromanagement such as the CDL program, FMCSA regulations, port of entries and their games.
Colorado is one of the few states that don’t count minor violations against your license and don’t even post them to your record but however, the story is different for truck drivers. I know every minor violation goes against your license and they include what you get in your private vehicle. I understand that even parking tickets can cause problems with a CDL ! When the CDL program was passed, one of the champions of it was Senator Danforth of Missouri (RINO) and he was also a big proponent of the 55 mph speed limit.
I also drive vehicles that have dark window tinting and I know for trucks, that is a no, no and they have to follow the federal law (FMCSA regs) on it which is no tint, pretty crappy especially if you drive in the SW US like Arizona.
> We know what a CDL is, but what the heck is a CHL? .....
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A friend of mine was tailgated by a psycho on the highway. He couldn’t drive fast enough to shake the nut, so he kept his pace until he saw a large truck muffler lying in his lane straight ahead. My friend sped up even more and stayed in his lane until the last possible second before jumping into the next lane. As he looked through the rear view mirror, he noted with satisfaction the guy’s eyes and contorted expression and torrents of sparks spewing from under his car as it wobbled and ground to a rapid halt.
Not much info but one detail is highly pertinent. The lady was ejected from her vehicle. Can’t happen unless you’re not wearing a seat belt. Leads me to conclude she’s a careless driver and there’s probably a lot to this tale unsaid. >PS
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