Skip to comments.Weekly Gardening Thread – 2011 (Vol. 24) June 24
Posted on 06/24/2011 5:15:19 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232
Good morning gardeners. Well this past week brought a respite from the sunny hot weather here in Mississippi. We received two days of beneficial rains, which helped to revive my garden. Watching the radar it looked like a good portion of south-central Texas from San Antonio to the northeast corner received some rain also. I hope it was helpful to our gardeners over that way. My winter squash are growing like mad and my hot and sweet peppers are doing great. What is left of my tomatoes seem to have revived a bit during these rainy and cloudy days. I really hope that what ever weather you have had improved a bit for you and your gardens this past week.
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Weekly Gardening Thread
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Remember that old seeds may have reduced germination. (Although Ive had great luck with them. And for free, you cant lose...) If possible, list year and variety.
I CAN OFFER a few of these seeds (say, 10) for free to anybody who wants to send me a SASE:
Basil (Genovese 2010)
Beans (Jackson Wonder Butterbean 2011)
Broccoli (Bonanza 2011) Chard (Bright Lights 2010)
Fennel (Florence 2011)
Kale (Redbor Hybrid 2010)
Squash (Acorn 2009 and I had really good germination with it, this year!)
Squash (Georgia Candy Roaster 2011.. a terrific winter squash!)
Tomato (Brandy Boy 2011)
Seeds for Fall
Anything (surprise me!)
I HAVE HEIRLOOM TOMATO SEEDS (FREEPER TDSCPA) from about 75 popular, open-pollinated heirloom varieties. Tell me via PM what varieties youre interested in, and if I have them I could send you a few seeds (10?) if you will send me a SASE.
Dont know what variety to grow? I can make suggestions, if you want to grow plants from seed. Contact Tdscpa
If anyone needs or wants okra seeds (says JustaDumbBlonde) please let me know. I saved a ridiculous amount in the fall of 2010. Two different varieties, Clemson and Jade, are both are heirloom variety so that you will be able to save seeds from your plants. Both are spineless and heavy producers. Jade is a bit darker green than Clemson and the pods are a bit shorter and fatter. Both are good for frying, soups, freezing, dehydrating or canning. Dont be shy, l have more than plenty to share! Tip for planting okra: soak your seeds for 24 hours before planting. Okra seeds are hard like peppercorns and soaking will assist in quicker germination. Contact JustaDumbBlonde
I have some black-seeded Simpson lettuce seeds and some Buttercrunch lettuce seeds if anyones interested. (says Oberon), And... anybody have any Gold Nugget yellow cherry tomato seeds? Im interested. Contact Oberon
Free Winter Squash or Stevia seeds or Heirloom Tomato/Pepper Seeds (says Black Agnes) The Patio Marconi seeds are container peppers that are sweet and good for salads, sandwiches or frying. Open pollinated if that interests you. Cilantro seeds too. Its good used fresh to detox heavy metals. Contact Black Agnes
Ferry Morse seeds Dated 2010
Organic Watermelon(Moon&Stars,100%certified organic seed)
Swiss Chard (rainbow of colors)
Tomato (brandywine heirloom variety)
Carrot (Big Ideas Veggie Tales)
Burpee Seeds Dated 2009
Cilantro (Chinese parsley)
Organic Cucumber Sumter (100% certified Organic Seed)
Parsley (single Italian Plain Leafed
Basil (Summer Long)
Sweet Corn (Jubilee Hybrid)
Green Bean (gourmet mix)
Cucumber (bush Champion)
Lettuce (Loose leaf mixture)
Squash (Fordhook Zuchini)
Pea (Sugar Daddy)
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I live in Panama City, FL. It’s been miserably hot and dry here. I don’t think we’ve had an inch of rain at my house since March. My peas and string beans died after producing a pretty meager harvest. The cucumbers died last week. A couple of tomatoes died and the survivors are barely holding on. It’s been a pretty rough year for gardening.
Good morning. I read where you got some rain also. Did it help?
Good morning all. It’s been raing al week. When I was checking my garden yesterday between shouwers, I noticed something “funnY’ about my tomatoes. Keep in mind that these plants have been in the ground only about 2 1/2 weeks. In that time, they have more than doubled in size, set a few tomatoes, etc. ut, I noticed yesterday that one out of the 16 plants looks funny” on top. The topmost leaves are bending back upon themselves so that the leaf looks more like a poinsietta leaf than a tomato leaf. They are sort of pity around the edges.
All the rest of the plants look fine. It’s an “Early Girl”. I’ll post pictures later on. I took some photos last night, but I want to take some more. I need to get at another computer to post them.
My question: Should I just pull out this plant before it contaminates the others? Should I spray it with something?
Sorry to hear that. Yeah it has been very sunny and hot hear also. I lost some of my tomato plants to the heat!
Good morning! We finally got some rain, but could sure use more. However, I’m not complaining, others are in far worse shape than we are.
Our two raised beds are doing swell. We have zucchini and tomatoes forming and the mellon vines are looking good. Our pepper plants are also looking promising.
Last weekend, our eleven pullets moved into their new coop and run. They seem okay, but Barb has to pick them up and place them in their coop every evening. They huddle together in the corner closest to where their cage used to be.
Yesterday, my son cleared the area around our back door and its suicide steps. When I got home, I took the string trimmer and cleared the weedes. Tomorrow morning, I start the deck. It is going to be a temporary affair, 14' by 14' and will eventually be taken down and moved to serve as the deck off of the future sun room. But, it will give us a nice place until the sun room is built.
Today is supposed to be the last day of rain. As my late Grandmother Schulz used to say, "We'll see!"
Good morning RD. Not much to say about the garden, but we did get over 2.5” of much needed rain in central Texas. We are in a severe drought, and the weather people say it will take seven or more rain events like we had the other day to break out of this dry spell.
I think your tomato plant is telling you that it has had to much water. The leaves will turn/curl under trying to expose as much of the leaf to the air in an attempt to expel water vapor.
With typos corrected!
Good morning all. Its been raining all week. When I was checking my garden yesterday between showers, I noticed something funny” about my tomatoes. Keep in mind that these plants have been in the ground only about 2 1/2 weeks. In that time, they have more than doubled in size, set a few tomatoes, etc., but, I noticed yesterday that one out of the 16 plants looks “funny on top. The topmost leaves are bending back upon themselves along the edges so that the leaf looks more like a poinsietta leaf than a tomato leaf. They are sort of pointy around the edges.
All the rest of the plants look fine. Its an Early Girl. Ill post pictures later on. I took some photos last night, but I want to take some more. I need to get at another computer to post them.
My question: Should I just pull out this plant before it contaminates the others? Should I spray it with something? All suggestions would be appreciated.
My strawberries are gone, but now I have lots of red raspberries. I planted my lettuce pretty thick in my raised beds, so it seems to keep it cooler, so I am still getting some lovely lettuce. Have lots of green tomatoes, my cabbage and broccoli are not doing that great (got too hot too soon) and my squash is forming and the corn is doing well.
Here's to enough and but not too much rain to you all.
Have a great day - I'm off to do much needed weeding.
I am looking for some advice. We just moved to a new place this summer, and I am excited about extra space we have now for a garden ... just one problem. When we tilled, the amount of rock we have is astounding. Clay and rock is typical for our area, but where are, or where we tilled anyway, it is much more rock than clay. We picked up lots of rocks, but didn’t even make a dent, and ended up bringing in a load of top soil for a small section of the garden, as it’s late in the season and just wanted to get something in.
I thought about trying lasagna style gardening on the rest to start building up some organic material, but imagine it would take years to build up the amount I need? Raised beds are an option, as I had those at our last home, but that would get expensive over such a large area, unless there’s a cheaper method of which I am not aware?
Anyone else dealt with lots of rocks and have some ideas for me? I would appreciate any advice you could give. Thanks.
‘Misty’ describes the weather here this week. Lettuce loves it. Everything and everyone else is wondering when the sun is coming back.
Barney Kessel (jazz guitarist) playing a nice version of the jazz standard:
Well, my tomato plant should tell God that it has had too much water. I did disconnect the automatic sprinkler. We sure don’t need that in the rain! LOL.
My tomatoes are also doing quite nicely. they have been getting watered quite well and as with yours, one has already some fruits on it.
Unsure on your malady, but red’s explanation sounds quite reasonable...
They're in big 20 gal. containers with plenty of drainage holes, but it's been phenomenally rainy for the past 7-10 days. Do you suppose they could be getting root-rot from too much water? Or could it be I've over-fertilized it? (Before it got so rainy, I was feeding it a high-nitrogen liquid fertilizer: diluted properly, but pretty regularly. Maybe too much?)
No visible sign of fungus or mold, by the way. And the upper plant looks swell. Just yellowing and dying of lower leaves.
BTW, this isn't happening to other cucurbit-types that I planted in the ground (not in containers.) Tubebender, I'm pinging you to this because I consider you a Wise One. Any ideas?
two possible courses of action come to mind right away: keep picking rocks and globalbuckets.org
Raised beds are worth it. Perhaps use this summer to build the beds for next growing season, and do some container gardening this summer.
I live in New England. We know rocks. Not sure where you are located, but we have so many rocks we stack them up into walls. Stick a shovel in the ground and you will hit a rock around here. I went with raised beds because I used to dig holes for a living here (archaeologist) and we would go through 3-4 shovels a year per person. Not because of handles breaking, but because we wore out the blades on all the rocks.
We finally had two days of warm, DRY weather. Nice enough to get into the garden and pull weeds and plant tomatoes (finally), peas, beans, annuals and other things that have been languishing in pots for weeks.
I just wanted to share a novel, to me, garden thought. I recently gave a talk on “Junk in the Garden”. Recycling or repurposing, really. I’ve found colorful advertising tins at the dump and planted them with complementary flowers. They are thriving and making an unusual, attractive display in the flower garden. Just thought I’d share.
We got about 20 minutes of rain a couple nights ago. First in who knows how long. It also brought the temperature out of the 100s - hey, 99 isn’t three digits.
The tomatoes have had it. Don’t know if it was just too much heat or if hubby spraying them with Miracle Grow did them in but they turned yellow the very next day.
Still no zukes. Huge healthy plants but not zukes.
Thank you for the information about the trellises. We’re extending the garden in the pasture and will be using cattle panels and rebar stakes. ala justadumbblonde.
Suddenly my walmart tomatoe plants are putting out tomatoes like gangbusters. All they needed was 1 inch of rain. Hopefully we’ll get more rain, we sure need it. My heirlooms are still fruitless, but have lots of flowers. My cherry tomatoes have some fruit and are now putting out more flowers, after the rain.
Good morning Stef. It looks like it is going to nice today. I’ve got WE Energy people wandering all over my back yard today. They have to install a new electric line to my house because we lost half the feed the other day. i.e. (according to my resident engineer) all electricity comes into the house as 220v. Then it splits and 110v serves all the regular plugs. 220v (both legs) serves the stove, dryer, etc. And there is a neutral leg. We had 75v on one leg and 0 on the other.
We had been having problems with our TV sets — dropping stations, turning off in the middle of a program, etc. All of a sudden my stove did not work. Then the microwave dropped out, etc., etc. etc.
I have a house full of guests. No water (pump on the well out) no HOT water, no stove, no microwave. Despite 120,000 customers out from an overnight storm (did you see that Tues night) WE Energies considered us an “emergency” and came out and srung a temporary feed — big orange cables to my house. They are putting it underground today.
I complain about their prices (which they assure me are the cheapest in the country) but they are excellent on service.
We got a much needed 1.0” this past Tuesday......
However, the temps are fast approaching 100 degrees again -— the garden is burning up.
Just trying to keep the okra & peppers alive.
I have two words for this weather, and they aren't 'Merry Christmas'.
That's your answer...New England is all rock; so everything I grow is either in a raised bed or self-watering containers; such as Earth Boxes or home-made 'global buckets'. You can purchase nice garden mixes by the cubic yard at your local landscape center...just make sure you get the 'good stuff' instead of 'road sweepings'...
At this time last year, it was so much fun working in the garden. Watching all the veggies grow & the harvesting.
With the drought & heat this summer, it’s a major disappointment. We had a short window of harvesting, but for the most part, it’s over.
Even with watering the temps are preventing any fruit production and the plants are literally burning up.
We had no spring.
Oh well, all we can do is hope for a fall/winter garden.
Beautiful weather in Central Missouri this past week. The garden has really jumped and is starting to look halfway decent. Tomato plants are waist high and blooming nicely, summer squash is starting to make, cucumbers are blooming, garlic and potatoes have been harvested, okra planted where those came out. Pulled a mess of chiogga beets and boiled them up for supper a couple nights ago. Yummy...
The chickens and ducks have cleaned up the cicadas and have started eating their pellet feed again. It was quite a hatch this year - they went three weeks on one filling of the self-feeder in the hen house. Normally I have to fill it every four or five days.
This is the first potato planting of 3 rows of Red Gold and 1 row of Yukon Gold
This is the later planting of 2 rows of Yukon Gold and 2 of Red Lasoda with Shallots in the background...
My wife picked the first gallon of Heritage Raspberries yesterday and it is tedious work...
Then she picked the second gallon of Cascade strawberries
I’ve never heard of chinese parsley. Is it a flat leaf, a strong flavor?
Sunflowers to clean radioactive soil in Japan
Campaigners in Japan are asking people to grow sunflowers, said to help decontaminate radioactive soil, in response to the Fukushima nuclear disaster that followed March’s massive quake and tsunami.
Volunteers are being asked to grow sunflowers this year, then send the seeds to the stricken area where they will be planted next year to help get rid of radioactive contaminants in the plant’s fallout zone.
The campaign, launched by young entrepreneurs and civil servants in Fukushima prefecture last month, aims to cover large areas in yellow blossoms as a symbol of hope and reconstruction and to lure back tourists.
“We will give the seeds sent back by people for free to farmers, the public sector and other groups next year,” said project leader Shinji Handa. The goal is a landscape so yellow that “it will surprise NASA”, he said.
The massive earthquake and tsunami left more than 23,000 people dead or missing on Japan’s northeast coast and crippled the Fukushima nuclear power plant that has leaked radiation into the environment since.
Almost 10,000 packets of sunflower seeds at 500 yen ($6) each have so far been sold to some 30,000 people, including to the city of Yokohama near Tokyo, which is growing sunflowers in 200 parks, Handa said.
Handa — who hails from Hiroshima, hit by an atomic bomb at the end of World War II — said the sunflower project was a way for people across the nation to lend their support to the disaster region.
“This is different from donations because people will grow the flowers, and a mother can tell her children that it is like an act of prayer for the reconstruction of the northeast,” Handa said.
“I also hope the project will give momentum to attract tourists back to Fukushima with sunflower seeds in their hands. I would like to make a maze using sunflowers so that children can play in it.”
What sort of mulch are your strawberries resting on?
Your garden is magnificent. Are you trying to make all of us feel incompetent?
When did you plant your potatoes?
I’m growing the same varieties. I planted mine about 3 weeks ago, but they are not up as high as yours. The Yukon golds are growing must faster than the Red LaSoda.
I just came in from helping my tomatoe flowers put out more fruit.
Everytime I see a picture of your and Mrs. Bender’s garden, I envy you. Your gardens look so productive and you have done so much to improve everything. I’ve noticed you use a lot of wire over some of your produce. To keep out critters and birds?
I like your idea. Earlier this spring we repurposed some old bicycle wheels. We cut the rubber tire off,scrubbed the metal “rims” and painted them black. Then we planted them in a row, largest to smallest with a peony in between. They extend out from the very large metal wagon wheels that flank the path from the front porch to the road. yesterday my little girl and I screwed plant pots to the wood posts that support the wagon wheels and planted wave petunias (she required pink flowers for her help in this project). I don’t know anything about posting pics but it looks pretty neat and makes a “fence” of sorts.
Oh, thank you.
I can’t diagnose from your description, but I have my suspicions. When you post a photo, I’ll try to help.
it’s cilantro. Yes, the leaves are flat and have a strong flavor for salsa. the seeds are know as coriander. They have a lemony flavor.
Blue Podded Capucinjers Pea. Soup pea with nice looking flowers and unique colored pods)
Golden Sweet Pea. Fresh/soup pea with yellow pods (more yellow than looks in the pic).
Left to right: Hulless Oats, Awnless Barley, Glenn Spring Wheat, and Winter Rye. Montana Winter Wheat just out of the pic, which the deer got. And yes, weeds.
Bumblebee on some sweet clover.
Honeybee hanging off an alfalfa flower.
A black-winged, blue bodies dragonfly which I've never seen around here before.
How do you “help your tomatoe flowers put out more fruit?” With an electric toothbrush? (That’s what a local tomato farmer around here told me to do for better pollination.)
Does anyone have any recommendations? I am fixing to go to the nursery to get some blood meal, but we are now hitting a spell of thunderstorms every day (praise God), so I don't know how long the blood meal will last.
Come to find out, chipmunks are a protected species here in Georgia, so I can't shoot them.
Just my two cents; I would stick with it. I put my first in-the-ground garden in this year. I have use of one of those big 6 foot heavy duty tillers I put on my tractor. I could not believe the amount of rocks that came up. I went through with a wheelbarrow and to out anything fist size or larger. Must have been 8 loads. I went ahead and planted. Now when I till between the rows, I take a 5 gallon bucket and take out the smaller rocks. It will probably take two to three years to get almost all of them out but it will be worth it in the end. If you live in an area with kids, you could always bribe them with money to form a picket line and go through your garden tossing out the rocks. My back wishes I had that option.
I used coriander for years in sweet dough for chala etc and didn’t know the plant was cilantro until I came to Texas. lol.
What a grand idea, this fall I’ll put one on a pole, tie strings to it and let the peas climb up and around. It would work well with a bushy ramabling rose. Thanks for the idea. Now I can go nuts with the wheels.
I did do that with a dowl, just give little love pats. This a.m. I sprayed the flowers with bloom set. I even sprayed some on hubby’s okra.
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