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Progressives target the constitution (Time shreds it, CNN shrugs it off)
Time and CNN

Posted on 06/24/2011 8:49:11 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

This is how the progressives do it. Plant some seeds, then before you know it these kinds of ideas will be all over the media.

Time magazine cover features shredded U.S. Constitution, asks if it still matters

And

This Exists: Iceland Rewrites Their Constitution Using Suggestions Through Twitter

This second link has me more troubled than the first. The things that Fareed Zakaria are saying could practically be lifted right out of the pages of The Road to Serfdom.

I don't think it's possible to state just how much danger we are in. These progressives are out for blood.


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I will not make a good subject. Very few of us freepers would.

History is very clear about what central planners do to people like us who have these kinds of thoughts.

1 posted on 06/24/2011 8:49:13 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: abb

The progressives know what’s going to happen to them come election day next year.

They know if they’re going to take our freedoms, they need to do it soon.

We are all in extraordinary danger.

And as usual, it’s their media mouthpieces which are softening the ground.


2 posted on 06/24/2011 8:50:59 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man”.


3 posted on 06/24/2011 8:52:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

You’re referring to the communist goals of 1963, right?


4 posted on 06/24/2011 8:54:07 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Would they support this minor change?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
5 posted on 06/24/2011 8:55:08 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (Because he was the son you bore, And gave to that wind blowing and that tide!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Yes I am.

20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

http://archive.glennbeck.com/news/03212002.shtml


6 posted on 06/24/2011 8:55:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

People,,, stories like this do not suddenly appear in the news by coincidence. Especially when written by the Boy Presidents MAIN advisor.

This is the pre-invasion bombardment. First we get stories about Iceland having a facebook and twitter con/con and scrapping an old constitution.

Then we are told that we live in an era that the founders coundn’t possibly imagine,, and that we know better.
Then they keep up this drumbeat until the right crisis hits. Then they launch a con/con here.

Their goal is nothing less that the final destruction of the constitution so they no longer need to even pay lip service to it.

This is not idle talk, they FULLY intend to do this,,it is the ultimate goal of an Obama second term.


7 posted on 06/24/2011 8:56:30 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah. What I think makes the 1963 list is how similar it is to the progressive list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Chase

1. A strong, centralized government.

2. An executive arm growing at the expense of the legislative and judicial arms.

3. The control of banking, credit and security exchanges by the government.

4. The underwriting of employment by the government, either through armaments or public works.

5. The underwriting of social security by the government – old-age pensions, mothers’ pensions, unemployment insurance, and the like.

6. The underwriting of food, housing, and medical care, by the government.

7. The use of deficit spending to finance these underwritings.

8. The abandonment of gold in favor of managed currencies.

9. The control of foreign trade by the government.

10. The control of natural resources.

11. The control of energy sources.

12. The control of transportation.

13. The control of agricultural production.

14. The control of labor organizations.

15. The enlistment of young men and women in youth corps devoted to health, discipline,community service and ideologies consistent with those of the authorities.

16. Heavy taxation, with special emphasis on the estates and incomes of the rich.

17. Control of industry without ownership.

18. State control of communications and propaganda.


8 posted on 06/24/2011 8:58:13 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Straight up National Socialism.


9 posted on 06/24/2011 9:00:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: DesertRhino

—————People,,, stories like this do not suddenly appear in the news by coincidence.——————

Exactly my thoughts on the matter.

They are softening the ground.

They think they have us; and are ready to go for the juggular.

As you rightfully state, if Obama gets a second term that’s it. Game over. We won’t be citizens. We will be subjects. By the time he’s done.

Obama has come to complete what Woodrow Wilson started.


10 posted on 06/24/2011 9:01:05 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I'm encouraging people to watch this two hour documentary on the rise and fall of the 3rd Reich. Its an amazing look at it from the German perspective and that makes it even more frightening. In fact, I think it should be required viewing in every high school classroom in America. One of the opening lines is telling about how different it is. "This is not the story of how Hitler seized power in Germany. This is the story of how the German people gave it to him."

Third Reich - The Rise

Many Germans recognized their horrible mistake pretty early but still too late. German children became little gestapo spies in every home. Teenage girls were expected to become unwed mothers and were called "Fuher maidens". The whole thing is astounding in how familiar it is.
11 posted on 06/24/2011 9:14:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Glenn Beck posits the question: “Can Man Rule Himself?”

If the left think that Man cannot rule himself, then how can they endorse Men ruling over other men?

This seems to be a paradox on the left.

If Man is not qualified to rule himself then isn’t man also equally unqualified to rule over others, be those men Kings, Dictators, or even Saints?

All the apparatus of government consists of men, but if the left is correct in their assertion that man cannot rule himself then should their goal be to minimize the sins of men ruling over other men?


12 posted on 06/24/2011 9:14:50 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Yes,, They have grown weary of having to measure all their progressive agenda against the founders constitutional intent. They intend to free themselves from it.

I think it is legitimate to say that an effort to scrap the constitution should be met head on with violence. NO excuses for saying “we are building a new one” and “you can send suggestions on facebook”.
It will be 100% time to defend the original with all required force. Be ready people. HAve a 5.56 rifle,,, you might not like it, but that is the round we will all need to use.


13 posted on 06/24/2011 9:17:37 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

And I don’t think it’s even slightly nuts to call for violence in response to a move to scrap the US Constitution.

It’s exactly the same as saying if armed Pakistani soldiers are patrolling my city and setting up roadblocks,,,i intend to shoot at them. It is our right and duty. I will not leave my kids the legacy of the Constitution Obama and Fareed would create,,,,Period.


14 posted on 06/24/2011 9:25:42 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Those 1963 list of Communist objectives is freaking scary. However, it seems that #12, “Resist Any Attempt to Outlaw the Communist Party” might be a good place to start an attack. A tricky one, given the broad power of freedom of speech, but Mccarthy made a good go of this in the 1950s.


15 posted on 06/24/2011 9:43:41 AM PDT by MikeyB806 (Bachmann, the only man running for the GOP nomination)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
These progressives are out for blood.

They had best be careful what they wish for... Sometimes the things you wish for and get do not turn out as you expect.....

16 posted on 06/24/2011 9:49:21 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

Years ago on an episode of Judge Judy there was a case of a woman trying to get her doctor bills paid by her ex husband.

Turns out that the woman had been following her ex around on his delivery route harassing him. She pulled a knife on him and he administered a righteous beat down with a credit card machine.

The ex husband was tried and found innocent of attempted murder in a criminal trial. Judge Judy told the woman, “Next time you go looking for trouble, you just might want to give some thought to what happens when you find it”

She ruled in favor of the ex husband.


17 posted on 06/24/2011 10:03:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

if they don’t like the Constitution...

then why am i paying taxes? last i checked, amendment 16 is the ONLY reason i cough up 50% of what i make

toss it out and all their treasured social programs would vanish (and should)


18 posted on 06/24/2011 10:23:38 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

In spite of the efforts of the Ruling Class, many millions of Americans still consider the defense of our Constitution to be a matter of duty, such that an attack on the integrity of that document is an attack on our freedom. Wars have begun over such matters, and those who today promote the casual evisceration of the Constitution would be well advised to consider our willingness and ability to defend it - at all costs.


19 posted on 06/24/2011 10:34:47 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
As you rightfully state, if Obama gets a second term that’s it. Game over. We won’t be citizens. We will be subjects. By the time he’s done.

Wrong.

I'll be expatriated.

20 posted on 06/24/2011 10:38:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: GraceG

————If the left think that Man cannot rule himself, then how can they endorse Men ruling over other men?

This seems to be a paradox on the left.——————

You would think that. On the surface, it certainly does contradict.

I referenced the book ‘Road to Serfdom’ at post 1, but there’s another book you should read that Beck has recommended.

Philip Dru Administrator. It’s all there. These progressives believe themselves to be masterminds.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2522063/posts
You can get the full text of it for free. All we have to do is read it.


21 posted on 06/24/2011 11:13:39 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: DesertRhino

-————————And I don’t think it’s even slightly nuts to call for violence in response to a move to scrap the US Constitution.-——————

That’s what the left wants us to do.

The media have made that very clear. Every time something violent happens, before the facts come in, the media blames the tea party.

If any tea partier or conservative got violent, that would be the justification for getting rid of the constitution.

Blessed are the peacemakers.


22 posted on 06/24/2011 11:15:32 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: Lazamataz

Haha, ok fair enough.

But I don’t see where you’d go. America is the most likely place where america would re-emerge.


23 posted on 06/24/2011 11:17:57 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I;m thinking Uraguay.


24 posted on 06/24/2011 11:22:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz

Isn’t Uruguay socialist?


25 posted on 06/24/2011 11:32:02 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
"Uruguay is a representative democratic republic with a presidential system.[35] The members of government are elected for a five-year term by a universal suffrage system."

They have elected a socialist president in 2005, but that term should be completed by now.

26 posted on 06/24/2011 11:38:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The first overt attempt to attack the Constitution was the original charter of the ACLU. Reads pretty much the same as the 1963 paper from the Communist party.
27 posted on 06/24/2011 1:39:20 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

(Time shreds it, CNN shrugs it off)

First we hang every one at Time and then we hang every one at CNN. Then we move on to the progressive media.


28 posted on 06/24/2011 1:51:48 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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——————The first overt attempt to attack the Constitution was the original charter of the ACLU.-——————

You won’t find a friend of the ACLU with me.

However, if you would look further back, you would find more.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2051567/posts

===================Justly revered as our great Constitution is, it could be stripped off and thrown aside like a garment, and the nation would still stand forth in the living vestment of flesh and sinew, warm with the heart-blood of one people, ready to recreate constitutions and laws. ... Woodrow Wilson============================

Let me put it to you this way. Glenn Beck seemingly said “Woodrow Wilson, I hate that guy” on a weekly basis on his Fox News TV show, and it started when he started reading Wilson in his own words.

There are a lot of us around here who view Obama as Wilson’s third term, and I do believe that Thomas Sowell also viewes Obama as a third Wilson term. Wilson was wildly, WILDLY radical.


29 posted on 06/24/2011 5:17:22 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: W. W. SMITH

“First we hang every one at Time and then we hang every one at CNN. Then we move on to the progressive media.”

That is a logical first step.


30 posted on 06/24/2011 5:29:36 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: W. W. SMITH
First we hang every one at Time and then we hang every one at CNN. Then we move on to the progressive media.

We really don't need the American version of Jacobins. Wanting to hang everyone who puts pen to ideas you don't like, isn't as conservative as you probably think it is.

31 posted on 06/24/2011 6:13:18 PM PDT by Melas (Sent via Galaxy Tab)
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To: Melas
Wanting to hang every one who wants to destroy this nation suits me just fine.

Pack that nice and tight in your pipe and smoke it!

32 posted on 06/24/2011 6:52:00 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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