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Will You Help Take Washington Back?
www.amandakathrynroman.com ^ | 6-24-11 | Amanda Kathryn Roman

Posted on 06/24/2011 2:35:43 PM PDT by mrsroman

In doing further research on my constitutional inquiry into whether or not unions & corporations should have the same inalienable rights that I do as an individual, I have found a resolution introduced by a state senator in Washington that calls for a constitutional amendment clarifying that corporations – and in turn unions – are not persons according to U.S. law. A statewide grassroots group in Washington wants to know what you think.

I think that a constitutional amendment of any kind should be considered carefully. I hold the U.S. Constitution in a place of great esteem… and in my pocketbook for quick reference. But, I think this is a situation that calls for a discussion on a constitutional amendment about the rights of human beings as individuals & corporations and unions as artificial entities. I can’t help but wonder, did our courts go too far?

With the Citizens United decision that came down from the Supreme Court last year, corporations and unions have essentially been granted some of the same constitutional rights that we have as individuals when it comes to free speech and elections. I think that there should be a clear difference between us as individuals and entities that are created and authorized by the state. I feel that my concerns are in line with the founders’ when it comes to the potential for the economic sphere to wield significant influence in the political sphere with no effective system of checks and balances.

What do you think? Take Back Washington is a grassroots organization standing for limited government, fiscal responsibility and the constitutional values on which our country was founded. They are based in the state where this resolution was introduced. Would you take a moment to participate in their 1 question poll?

As you know, corporations and unions as entities are not able to cast a vote in our election system but, they are entitled to making donations to those running for public office wielding significant influence over the whole process. Over the years, we have watched unions donate significant sums of money to the candidates they chose – what about the individuals who provided some of that money through dues and other fees? Those people don’t get a say in where that money goes and what candidate is supported and they should! The conservative movement has seen a flurry of activity in recent years in an effort to give union workers more rights in this regard by working to overturn the Employee Free Choice Act, aka card check. While this battle is far from over, I am glad to see groups like Alliance for Worker Freedom standing up for union workers’ rights.

Corporations also donate significant sums of money to candidates during the election season. Well what about the shareholders of those corporations? They are certainly not casting a vote or engaged in a process to determine which candidates receive political donations from their corporation but, they should be! I support an effort – similar to the fight to overturn card check legislation – to call on corporations to have a more transparent process involving their shareholders when it comes to making decisions on political donations. I think that individual shareholders should certainly have a say in how their corporation is spending money when it comes to the political sphere.

Let Take Back Washington know what you think about the rights of unions and corporations through their 60 second poll.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: constitution; corporations; freespeech; unions
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1 posted on 06/24/2011 2:35:51 PM PDT by mrsroman
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To: mrsroman
Welcome to Free Republic.

Let Take Back Washington know what you think

By clicking on your site, correct? Providing you some hits, right?

You know.. we've actually heard of "advertising" here. Would you care to donate to Free Republic to advertise your site here?

Hello? Is this thing on?

2 posted on 06/24/2011 2:48:58 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

I only clicked on this thread to see your response, lol.


3 posted on 06/24/2011 2:58:09 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: mrsroman

Yeah, take them both back: Washington DC AND Washington State. While your at it take back Oregon and California. They all belong to the Communists now.


4 posted on 06/24/2011 3:06:14 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: humblegunner

My blog has no advertising AND I’m a monthly donor. Unfortunately my next article will be posted on a site requiring excerpting, so I hope you’ll go easy on me. :)


5 posted on 06/24/2011 3:40:02 PM PDT by callisto (Who is John Galt?)
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To: callisto
Unfortunately my next article will be posted on a site requiring excerpting

Why not post it here in full?

Are you worried that you might sue yourself?

6 posted on 06/24/2011 3:45:00 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

No, silly. My article will be published on a syndicated news site. LOL

Sorry, FReeping from my phone must limit my ability to communicate effectively. Perhaps it’s the beer. :)


7 posted on 06/24/2011 3:49:37 PM PDT by callisto (Who is John Galt?)
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To: callisto

Do you mean that Horowitzian craphole or LizBlain?

Either way, if you are the author nothing prevents you from posting the content here.

Even if it’s lame or stolen or if you have spent twenty minutes re-wording it.

“Published”?

Please, it’s a blog post. Let’s not enable the fantasy.


8 posted on 06/24/2011 3:55:56 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Not Horowitz’s, so if the site is listed on FR’s excerpt list, which it is, then I assume even the author’s posting of it here must be excerpted. If I’m incorrect then I will gladly post it in its entirety. Do you know the answer?

Thanks.


9 posted on 06/24/2011 4:03:57 PM PDT by callisto (Who is John Galt?)
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To: callisto
if the site is listed on FR’s excerpt list, which it is, then I assume even the author’s posting of it here must be excerpted.

You indicated that you were to be the "author".

You wish to hide behind an excerpt list to get blog hits? Why?

Is that what Free Republic is to you? A "hit farm"?

How about you just write your stuff HERE and screw the blog?

I'll be Free Republic gets more views than whatever diseased blog you may "write" on.

10 posted on 06/24/2011 4:12:52 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: fish hawk
take them both back: Washington DC AND Washington State. While your at it take back Oregon and California. They all belong to the Communists now.

I hope that no conservatives think that Washington DC is a football to be won in a political skirmish or that once you have it you have actually won something worth having. The place needs to be ignored, shunned and shut down. The salvation of the US rests on making Washington DC irrelevant and powerless all except for, perhaps, the national defense, and even their I am of divided minds.

11 posted on 06/24/2011 4:21:26 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: humblegunner

What part “syndicated news site on FR’s excerpt only list” don’t you get or are you just an antagonistic AH to everyone? The article won’t be crossposted to my blog. It’s an A.R.T.I.C.L.E. on a news site.

I asked your opinion since you appear to be the ringleader of the posting police here & assumed you know the answer..Now, do you or don’t you know?


12 posted on 06/24/2011 4:25:03 PM PDT by callisto (Who is John Galt?)
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To: callisto
Now, do you or don’t you know?

First off, Zippy.. you don't quiz me. I'm not the one trying to scam hits from Free Republic.

Know that, learn it well.

If you have written something and have the opportunity to post it
on some blog.. good for you. Mental patients can do the same in the Rec area.

If this blog is on the excerpt list, I'd advise you to post the entry right here
first, in full. Is that too difficult for you? If so, why?

I'm not providing you any blog hits. So if you want your "writing" here
and wish for it ALL to be read, what could be simpler than posting it here?

Don't be a pimp, be a contributor.

13 posted on 06/24/2011 4:33:00 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

I asked in all politeness. You and others on FR who behave in similar fashion reflect negatively on this site and conservatives, in general. I’m not after blog hits...It’s a hardcore news article, not blog post, and I hoped to share the research at a time when conservatives need all the ammunition we can get against the 0 administration.


14 posted on 06/24/2011 5:02:40 PM PDT by callisto (Who is John Galt?)
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To: callisto
I’m not after blog hits...It’s a hardcore news article, not blog post

What seems to be preventing you from posting it here then?

I hoped to share the research at a time when conservatives need all the ammunition we can get against the 0 administration.

Yeah. Share it here, or somewhere else where we need to pay you a hit for it?

I’m not after blog hits.

Then you'll post it right here. In full.

15 posted on 06/24/2011 5:07:45 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner; Jim Robinson

You serve your purpose at times HG, but overall you degenerate the quality of this site. I asked if you knew if an author whose work was posted at an excerpt-only site could post said article in its entirety here with no adverse effects to FR and all I get is BS grief from you. You, alone, are enough to cost this site lots of financial contributions from existing and potential donors.


16 posted on 06/24/2011 5:22:34 PM PDT by callisto (Who is John Galt?)
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To: humblegunner
Why not post it here in full? Are you worried that you might sue yourself?

LOL

17 posted on 06/24/2011 8:14:41 PM PDT by jla
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To: callisto

See? You can post your opinions right here, no need for a blog.
You can even cry to Jim without a blog.

What’s the stinkin’ blog for anyway?


18 posted on 06/25/2011 3:48:56 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner; callisto
I probably shouldn't get into this, but I'm doing so against my better judgment.

Depending on where Callisto gets the article published, they **COULD** sue Free Republic, and I don't want to see something like that happen when Callisto asked a valid question trying to get an answer.

Based on the “works done for hire” doctrine, in most cases, the author of an article does **NOT** retain copyright once it's been published, whether that publication is in a book, magazine, newspaper, website, or some other format.

“Works done for hire” generally become the copyrighted property of the person or organization that commissioned them unless otherwise specified by an employment or freelancing contract. If Callisto is being paid for articles published on someone else’s website, even though she's the author, she no longer owns the copyright unless she has something in writing specifying that she retains copyright. If she's not being paid, the website owner may or may not own copyright depending on whether noncash compensation changed hands, but that's a question for the lawyers in the absence of a written agreement.

Here's three possible solutions that could make everybody happy.

1. About a half-decade ago, the newspaper for which I then worked had a freelancer who was retired from Army Public Affairs, was writing a book, and wanted to retain copyright. We wrote up a contract specifying that the freelancer would retain copyright but the newspaper would have exclusive reproduction rights for a 30-day period. Callisto, if you're a professional freelancer, it's worth the money to spend a couple of hundred dollars to get your lawyer — NOT the publisher's lawyer — to write up a contract like this. If writing is what you do for a living, get the legal stuff handled before somebody gets mad and threatens to take you to court. Lawyers can protect you from really, really bad problems.

2. Callisto could ask the website owner for written permission to post the article in full on Free Republic since they probably own the copyright if they're paying her. If they say yes, end of problem. Even if Callisto isn't being paid for her work, that's probably best if the publisher wants to retain copyright.

3. Callisto could ask for a written statement from the website that she retains copyright which includes an acknowledgment that she intends to post it in full on Free Republic and possibly elsewhere. That would likely be the best solution if Callisto wants to reprint her article somewhere else down the road, **ESPECIALLY** if she wants to ever be paid for this same article in the future.

Again, I'm trying to help. Please don't flame me... this isn't my fight, but I don't want to see Free Republic sued when there are easy ways to prevent that problem from happening.

19 posted on 06/25/2011 6:15:54 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina; callisto

You’re probably right.

I just get damned sick of folks who write stuff posting it
in full all over creation but excerpting it here on Free Republic.

The vast majority of them do it to get blog hits, treating us as a hit farm.

I get a bit obsessive about it sometimes.


20 posted on 06/25/2011 6:21:55 AM PDT by humblegunner
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