Skip to comments.Confederate sub upright for first time since 1864
Posted on 06/24/2011 4:10:05 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. The first submarine in history to sink an enemy warship is upright for the first time in almost 150 years, revealing a side of its hull not seen since it sank off the South Carolina coast during the Civil War.
Workers at a conservation lab finished the painstaking, two-day job of rotating the hand-cranked H.L. Hunley upright late Thursday.
The Hunley was resting on its side at a 45-degree angle on the bottom of the Atlantic when it was raised in August 2000 and scientists had kept it in slings in that position in the lab for the past 11 years.
But they needed to turn it upright to continue with the job of conservation.
Scientists hope the hidden side of the sub will provide clues as to why the Hunley sank with its eight-member crew in February, 1864, after sending the Union blockade ship Houstonic to the bottom.
While there was no immediate clue from a first look at the hidden hull but "we are seeing some tantalizing clues on that side," Hunley archaeologist Maria Jacobsen said Friday.
There are various theories why the sub sank. It could have been damaged by fire from the Housatonic or the sub's crew was knocked out by the concussion from the blast that sank that ship. Or it could have been damaged by another Union vessel rescuing the Housatonic.
The next step in conserving the Hunley comes next week when it will be lowered onto keel blocks to hold it upright. It will probably be a month before a truss and the slings that suspended the sub from it will be removed, providing an even better view of the submarine.
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The South will rise again!
I thought she had already been raised? I’m I thinking of some ironclad or something??
They raised her in 2000, but she’d been lying on her side ever since.
Not being a morning person, I kind of know the feeling....
I’ve been to see her personally, in 2003, at the Warren Lasch Conservation Center in Charleston, SC. I don’t know if they still allow groups into the lab- but if they do, and you’re into history- GO.
I’ve got the t-shirt from when the challenge was still “Raise the Hunley!”
Thanks...glad to know I’m not completely off my nut. I thought she had been raised once.
Did you go to the conservation center? I was there in August of 2003, after having followed it since it was found. I don’t know what it’s like now, if it’s as public-oriented as it was, but back then it was a great place to visit.
I got out the calculator. That should read "rotating it between 31 and 39 inches in increments of .08 inches."
Damn, it P.O.'s me when American journalists don't convert metric into Imperial measurements. It would be like printing a foreign dignitary's speech in his native language without bothering to translate it into English.
I suspect it has something to do with sophistication, but I'll bet the writer didn't have any idea what 800 millimeters meant either.
Sounds like the writer read it off a ‘fact’ sheet.
Confederate bubbleheads. God rest their souls.
>The South will rise again!<
I pray and hope so. This time, it’s gonna be a lopsided affair. A total wipe-out..hunting libs will be so sweet.
I was a member on that site for a while.
I think it was a reactor leak that sank the sub.
Seriously, are there any documentaries about the
I don’t recall having seen one- I’d be surprised if one didn’t exist.
I thought they would use a tank and Electrolysis to clean it up!
I think that’s exactly what they did.
They need to repair it, because it might be needed again pretty soon. :)
Defense budget cuts?
Yup. Ted Turner film. They had it showing continuously in the ante-hall outside the conservation tank.
She was in a tank and underwent electrolysis for a long time to stabilize the iron. I haven’t figured out from this story or other articles whether she’s still in the tank or not.
I’ve seen a couple of 1-hour documentaries on TV.
There is no clear answer as to what sank the submarine. She signaled the men on shore after the attack. A fire was lit on shore to guide the men home.
Right now it sounds like they bottomed the boat, fell asleep and never woke up. The balast pumps were x-rayed and showed that the crew were not trying to pump out water.
There is a made-for-tv movie about the submarine. It was produced by the TNT network about 10 or 12 years ago. The writers had the men getting stuck on the bottom when they took on too much water.
The crew were given a proper Confederate military burial. (The PC crowd didn't like this). My guess is that the benefit of raising the relatively small submarine out weighed everything else. Also she could not be protected where she was and there's the mystery of why she sank.
Those men were frighteningly brave. That thing was a deathtrap,,,with almost no hope of escape.
Yeah, but they have no taste.....
Use their sorry carcass as a rug.
Hey, thanks guys for the info and the link ,way cool stuff for 1863.
i was there this past april. they think she will be in the tank until 2016. very nice place and, being it was a sunday, we got to go in and see her (no cameras, no phones, etc.) volunteers were very friendly and knowledgeable. down the road is the cemetary with the graves of the 2nd, 3rd, and last crews.
the movie is THE HUNLEY starring armand assante (the frog from ncis) and donald sutherland (oddball)
“one ping only.”
No, hven’t made it down there yet. They had a mock-up of the Hunley at the Air Show at Andrews Air Force Base years ago and they were selling shirts to help finance the recovery.
I wouldn't worry about that. The last boat I was on was full of good ole boys. I was one of only two guys in my division who owned shoes before boot camp.
I thought they died from lack of oxygen. Didn’t they have oil lamps burning inside? IIRC, didn’t they also find the crewmen still in their uniforms/shoes? Anyway, fascinating.
>>>> Seriously, are there any documentaries about the
As far as I know, the first “documentary” about the Hunley was an episode of the CBS series “The Great Adventure”. A show that took incidents of American history and portrayed them as accurately as they could for the time.
Original Air Date:
27 September 1963 (Season 1, Episode 1)
Jackie Cooper ... Lt. Dickson
James MacArthur ... Lt. Alexander
There was a television series, back in the ‘60’s that would tell a story of American history every week. The first was about Drake (played by Cliff Robertson) and his discovery of oil in Pennsylvania.
They did an excellent episode on the Hunley, the Lieutenant ( or Captain?) being played by Jackie Cooper.
You are correct, sir! I didn’t bother to search, I was just drawing from my memory. I learned more US history from that show than I did from elementary school.
But like the Hunley, waterlogged and rusty?
The H.L. Hunley was basically made out of a boiler. As a teenager I took a summer job at a boiler-works. Among the slightly less prestigious tasks was removing the slag after the ends were welded on.
In order to do that I had to enter the boiler through a tiny hatchway. Claustrophobia always got the better of me and I would bail after 5-10 minutes. I can’t imagine going underwater in one.
Here is a time-lapse video of them rotating the Hunley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v2cBAkCHHU
“Here is a time-lapse video of them rotating the Hunley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v2cBAkCHHU “
Very, very cool. Thanks!
It’s almost spooky to see her up close and in motion like that, like she’s coming to life. That and the thought of how cramped and claustrophobia-inducing it had to be for the sailors.... Chilling.
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