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How Sarah Palin can beat Mitt Romney head to head.
C4P ^ | 6-25-2011 | C4P (hat tip to Techno)

Posted on 06/25/2011 12:06:55 AM PDT by ak267

1) She theoretically appeals to a bigger slice of the GOP (conservatives) than Romney does (moderates-centrists)

2) Her strength is in the red states while Romney's is in the blue states

3) She is a superstar; he is not

4) She draws bigger crowds than he does on the campaign trail

5) She is a far more eloquent speaker than he is

6) She does retail politicking better than Romney

7) She is younger and has far more energy than 64 year old Romney

8) She apparently is much more Internet and social networking savvy than Mitt is.

9) Palin will not be hesitant to go for Romney's throat. Romney may be too much of a gentleman in public to do so. Palin is a street fighter; Romney is a running back that is afraid of getting hit.

10) Palin's message is one of restoration; Romney's is one of fixing. The former stirs emotions and the latter is founded on logic. And in my experience in sales emotion always defeats logic.

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1 posted on 06/25/2011 12:07:01 AM PDT by ak267
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To: ak267
How Sarah Palin can beat Mitt Romney head to head

I can only think of two strategies for her:

1. Say what she believes.

or

2. Let Mitt speak up and say what HE believes.

2 posted on 06/25/2011 12:13:08 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ak267
2) Her strength is in the red states while Romney's is in the blue states

I don't know where Romney's appeal is. I have said this before but, to repeat myself: Romney was in Denver, Colorado within a day or two of Ron Paul in 2008.

A polite handful came out to see Romney.

Ron Paul filled a ballroom in am icy blizzard to overflowing, and people were willing to stand out in the snow & ice to be near him. I am not a Paulite (Pauly? Paulette?), but mention it for the contrast.

Of late, Colorado has been a purple state. McCain threw Colorado away with both hands in 2008, as did the GOP in 2010. Hard to say what happens next.

3 posted on 06/25/2011 12:22:46 AM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: ak267

100% of LDS will vote for Mitt. That gives him a large advantage in the mountain west states.


4 posted on 06/25/2011 12:27:03 AM PDT by Tramonto
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To: Still Thinking
2. Let Mitt speak up and say what HE believes.

He believes what you want him to believe. Unless you'd rather he not. Then he won't. Unless something better comes along. In which case, he'll believe that. Unless you'd prefer that he wear a miniskirt and tap dance, because he's all good with that, too.

Mitt Romney is like a chameleon with fabulous hair.

5 posted on 06/25/2011 12:27:11 AM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: ak267

It’d help if she actually runs first....


6 posted on 06/25/2011 12:28:35 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: mountainbunny

Of late, Colorado has been a purple state. McCain threw Colorado away with both hands in 2008, as did the GOP in 2010. Hard to say what happens next.


You’re exactly right. Tancredo shot himself in the foot and Buck should have kicked Hickenlooper’s (sp) butt.


7 posted on 06/25/2011 12:38:27 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Tramonto
100% of LDS will vote for Mitt. That gives him a large advantage in the mountain west states.

Utah has a primary date of Feb 7th, 2012, which looks to be in violation of the GOP rules. I'm sure it's planned to give Romney or a boost. We'll have to see what happens before now and then, but I do wonder how much momentum it will give him, considering hat fact that he'd win in Utah even if he never showed up once to campaign.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51044.html

According to this (footnote goes to the RNC) Wikipedia article, Nevada is slated for a February caucus. I wouldn't be surprised if (as you said) Romney won Nevada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_2012#Primary_and_caucus_dates

I don't expect him to win Colorado if anyone decent is running, though, because as I said up-thread, he didn't impress anyone here in 2008. Romney won here in 2008 because McCain ran a spectacularly lousy campaign and gave the finger to Colorado wherever and whenever he could. Toward the end of the campaign leading up to November, pictures in the media of McCain's campaign headquarters statewide showed that they were closing early, opening late, and half the time the people there didn't know if they were afoot or on horseback. Any warm body could have beaten McCain in 2008 here.

Besides, in the end, what can Romney do to change the outcome? He had 147 delegates (10%), and was blown out of the water by an underfunded, meandering, and late-entering Huckabee with 197 delegates (14%).

8 posted on 06/25/2011 12:53:10 AM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: ak267

In total agreement with most of the points, but I think these two need to be qualified:

5) She is a far more eloquent speaker than he is:

-Depends on how you define eloquent. Palin says what needs to be said and is direct about it, even to the point of being blunt. Romney talks like a politician, but he can be olive-oil smooth at it. Conservatives prefer the former, but we shouldn’t discount the latter’s appeal to some. He’s certainly more gifted at oratory than the last three GOP nominess (Dole, President Bush, and McCain).

9) Palin will not be hesitant to go for Romney’s throat. Romney may be too much of a gentleman in public to do so. Palin is a street fighter; Romney is a running back that is afraid of getting hit.

-True, Romney probably won’t want to get down and dirty himself, but his proxies (which will probably include a lot of the MSM - at least during the GOP primaries) will do the dirty work for him. If Sarah Palin becomes the one candidate between Romney and the nomination, I guarantee the mud will start flying.

just MHO, of course.


9 posted on 06/25/2011 12:58:23 AM PDT by DemforBush (Serpentine, Shel! Serpentine!)
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To: ak267


10 posted on 06/25/2011 12:58:47 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: unkus

I know Democrats here in Colorado who, on average, are more conservative that Republicans in some of the Eastern Democratic strongholds. There is no reason for the Republican Party to be as unsuccessful as they have been.

The GOP has had to work darned hard to screw up as badly as it has here. I wish they’d work half as hard at keeping an eye on potential candidates, and encouraging strong people at the local level.

The party itself needs a good cleaning from the top on down.


11 posted on 06/25/2011 1:03:44 AM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: mountainbunny

Rinos never win.


12 posted on 06/25/2011 1:31:44 AM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: mountainbunny

Ok, that got me laughing out loud.........


13 posted on 06/25/2011 1:44:20 AM PDT by onona (I stand with SARAH !)
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To: ak267
Sarah says what She means, and means what She says. She is what we refer to in the thumb of Michigan as a “scrapper”, She doesn't back down from a fight. Her and Her family have survived a trial by fire, and She still keeps going. How many Washington lackeys could stand up to that kind of scrutiny? The blowback from the media is a sure sign that they fear this Woman and everything She stands for. She has to be ignored, discredited, pushed to the margin, because if becomes the next President. they are toast!
14 posted on 06/25/2011 2:07:50 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: ak267
Sarah says what She means, and means what She says. She is what we refer to in the thumb of Michigan as a “scrapper”, She doesn't back down from a fight. Her and Her family have survived a trial by fire, and She still keeps going. How many Washington lackeys could stand up to that kind of scrutiny? The blowback from the media is a sure sign that they fear this Woman and everything She stands for. She has to be ignored, discredited, pushed to the margin, because if becomes the next President. they are toast!
15 posted on 06/25/2011 2:08:04 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: ak267

When did Palin announce she’s running? Did I miss it?


16 posted on 06/25/2011 2:55:18 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr

No, you did not miss it.

She has not announced.


17 posted on 06/25/2011 3:36:48 AM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: KoRn
It’d help if she actually runs first....

I'm with you, but I'm willing to let Sarah pick her spot for her announcement of whether she will or won't run.

18 posted on 06/25/2011 3:43:11 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: ak267
Not even Romney's LSD will get him
through this hallucination.


19 posted on 06/25/2011 3:46:45 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Still Thinking

I don’t disagree with anything said here. I think #9 hits it home for me. Mitt calculates, ponders... then acts. There is nothing wrong with that, and in a CEO he probably is very very effective. Sarah needs to be more like that. Maybe she is.

But here is the point. I know there is much venom shown on this forum against Mitt. We need Mitt. Maybe the place for him is a working VP, this country needs some hardboiled systematic leadership in the business sense.

I don’t think Mitt is the President... he is the go to guy..He is the half back....and I think he can take a hit.

The republicans have a fine cross section of doers. I don’t want them to destroy each other. They need to lift each other.

I don’t know if Sarah is going to run. Bringing Perry into the mix pretty much satisfies the conservative thinking. She can’t say that there is NOONE carrying the message.

She might be the bigger star in the background as REagan was with Goldwater.

Perry is a strong seasoned governor of a successful state. Texas is what California was.


20 posted on 06/25/2011 4:21:02 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: ak267

Ok....let’s do this same exercise but substitute why Sarah beats Obama head to head.


21 posted on 06/25/2011 4:21:55 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: KoRn

It has become clear to me she is not running. She isn’t stupid

Why would she preside over a nation that’a already gone over the edge

Not even Sarah Palin can fix our problem


22 posted on 06/25/2011 5:01:39 AM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: ak267

Romney will get all of the Democrat crossover votes in the primaries and there will be a lot of them unless the kenyan gets a serious challenge in his own party that survives past the first three primaries.The Controlled Press thinks it can put Romney over handily by outvoting his opposition with Democrats in the primaries. That gave us McCain latest time and the push will be far stronger this time. I expect a large record for apparent Republican turnout.


23 posted on 06/25/2011 5:28:32 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: ak267

Mitt is snake bit. He lost badly to Rinos McCain & Huckabee in 2008 when he was a stronger candidate who didn’t have the albatross of RomneyCare around his neck (until ObamaCare passed, Mitt hailed his RomneyCare as his crowning achievement).

Now Mitt is going up against the most dynamic candidate either party has had in years. Yes, folks - Sarah is running in 2012. She’s not just visiting early voting states like New Hampshire and soon Iowa just for the heck of it.

No contest between Sarah & Mitt for the Tea Party, true conservatives and libertarians votes.


24 posted on 06/25/2011 5:41:31 AM PDT by sarah palin rocks
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To: ak267

Amazing. It’s 2011. Barack Obama is president. And yet there are people who still do not understand how much stupid is out there.
Romney the sponge will mop it up.


25 posted on 06/25/2011 5:42:06 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT)
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To: arthurus

Palin will probably get most of the Dem crossover votes. The Dems have been brainwashed into thinking she can’t win so it’s likely they will vote for her. A good number will probably go to Ron Paul too.


26 posted on 06/25/2011 5:44:45 AM PDT by sarah palin rocks
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To: sarah palin rocks

You ae assuming the Democrats will vote their own minds. They won’t. They will know who to vote for. McCain was the one that the Democrats claimed the most dangerous and they all voted for him because they knew that he would be a nothing and even if he did win it would not be a great loss for the Democrats. He would push their agenda. It is the same with Romney but more so. Any thinking (even a little) person knows that Romney is a loser against the kenyan because he wants the same things and Obama is the real deal, a wolf in wolf’s clothing. Romney is Obama Lite and will repel conservative and not-so-conservatives and Democrats know this. That is why they scream against Palin. The Democrats are savvy enough- they have been doing this for a long time- to know that Palin and perhaps Perry are the greatest dangers. They know the meaning of the hysteria and the screams from the left/press that Palin can’t win. Romney is the choice of the Democrats for the Republican nomination.


27 posted on 06/25/2011 5:57:08 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: sarah palin rocks

You ae assuming the Democrats will vote their own minds. They won’t. They will know who to vote for. McCain was the one that the Democrats claimed the most dangerous and they all voted for him because they knew that he would be a nothing and even if he did win it would not be a great loss for the Democrats. He would push their agenda. It is the same with Romney but more so. Any thinking (even a little) person knows that Romney is a loser against the kenyan because he wants the same things and Obama is the real deal, a wolf in wolf’s clothing. Romney is Obama Lite and will repel conservative and not-so-conservatives and Democrats know this. That is why they scream against Palin. The Democrats are savvy enough- they have been doing this for a long time- to know that Palin and perhaps Perry are the greatest dangers. They know the meaning of the hysteria and the screams from the left/press that Palin can’t win. Romney is the choice of the Democrats for the Republican nomination.


28 posted on 06/25/2011 5:57:16 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Still Thinking

She can beat him simply by being on the ballot. Nobody wants to vote for Mitt: no Republicans, because he’s a liberal and a bore; and no Democrats, even though they’re currently promoting him.


29 posted on 06/25/2011 5:57:42 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Some brothers have humongous monsters, and some don't. Live with it.)
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To: factoryrat

“Sarah says what She means, and means what She says.”

I think that’s what even scares the “Republicans” in Congress.

As true today as it was in 1967:

“Too much talk, and not enough action
Do you know anybody gettin’ satisfaction?
Everbody wonders ‘bout the crowd’s reaction.”


30 posted on 06/25/2011 6:01:30 AM PDT by radioone
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To: nikos1121
But here is the point. I know there is much venom shown on this forum against Mitt. We need Mitt.

I wholeheartedly disagree. If for no other reason than, at best, Romney's dishonest and willfully ignorant.

Romney has held every positions on every topic than I can count, and often shows a frightening level of dishonesty on certain issues. He shows a frightening level of ignorance, to be charitable, on others.

Like saying that he's always been pro-life. That is a lie.

Or saying that he's been a life-long hunter. As if it were true (it isn't) or as if that is what the 2nd Amendment is about (it isn't).

And by saying that he wants to get rid of weapons of which can be used against the police. No one is advocating hurting a police officer, but all guns are lethal, so he's advocating banning pretty much all of them. Except when he says he isn't. That is a lie and/or misdirection, and/or an inability to think or speak clearly. Or all four. Take your pick.

Please tell me why we "need" that? I'm not asking for a list of what you feel his strengths are. I am asking exactly why we need a liar and/or someone who practices misdirection and spouts ignorance to lead us?

31 posted on 06/25/2011 6:49:58 AM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: mountainbunny

You’re exactly right.


32 posted on 06/25/2011 8:59:49 AM PDT by unkus
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To: nikos1121

33 posted on 06/25/2011 9:20:04 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: mountainbunny

We don’t need nor do we want him at the helm. He’d be a good cabinet member.


34 posted on 06/25/2011 9:31:37 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: mountainbunny
Please tell me why we "need" that? I'm not asking for a list of what you feel his strengths are. I am asking exactly why we need a liar and/or someone who practices misdirection and spouts ignorance to lead us?

Mitt only lied to get elected. He continued to lie in hopes of getting elected to higher office. Once he is president, he will stop lying and rule, err, lead as a true conservative, but maybe only after he is elected to a second term.

35 posted on 06/25/2011 10:02:19 AM PDT by Tramonto
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To: ak267
How Sarah Palin can beat Mitt Romney head to head.

11) Hide his hair spray. Case closed!

36 posted on 06/25/2011 11:18:23 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: JaneNC
No, you did not miss it. She has not announced.

Oh, okay. Why is this thread even here, then?

37 posted on 06/25/2011 1:24:59 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr

People like to fantasize.


38 posted on 06/25/2011 3:47:20 PM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: mountainbunny
"He believes what you want him to believe. Unless you'd rather he not. Then he won't. Unless something better comes along. In which case, he'll believe that. Unless you'd prefer that he wear a miniskirt and tap dance, because he's all good with that, too. Mitt Romney is like a chameleon with fabulous hair. "

That pretty much sums it up

39 posted on 06/25/2011 8:44:36 PM PDT by scorpa
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