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Plane Crash Kills Dr. Stephen Hatch and His Wife; Son Austin Critical (2nd crash for son Austin)
Indiana's News Center ^ | June 25, 2011 | Nicole Hahn

Posted on 06/25/2011 3:32:19 PM PDT by CreviceTool

Charlevoix, Michigan (Indiana’s NewsCenter) – Officials with the FAA have confirmed that a single-engine plane that took off from Smith Field Airport in Fort Wayne crashed into a residential garage in Charlevoix, Michigan at about 7:30pm Friday Night. They say two people on board were killed and another person was critically injured. Sources close to the family tell us that Dr. Stephen Hatch and his wife Kim were the people killed in the crash. They tell us that Hatch’s son, Austin, was also in the aircraft and is in critical condition.

(Excerpt) Read more at indianasnewscenter.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: aviation; basketball; doctor; planecrash; uofm
Two crashes - five dead. Stunning example of the God Complex with certain doctors. Not only did this doctor kill his first wife and 2 children in crash #1, he has now assumed room temperature with his second wife in crash #2. The irony is that the only family survivor of two crashes and a second marriage is the basketball star son, Austin. I can't imagine this young man (assuming he recovers) wanting to do a vast amount of air travel at this point.
1 posted on 06/25/2011 3:32:23 PM PDT by CreviceTool
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To: CreviceTool

It is a syndrome of rich people and their toys.


2 posted on 06/25/2011 3:35:48 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: CreviceTool

The name sounds familiar but I don’t know who he is.


3 posted on 06/25/2011 3:36:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: CreviceTool

I don’t know who he is either, but perhaps you’re being a little harsh on the good doctor, here. Was the first crash the result of some terribly negligent action on his part? Just asking.


4 posted on 06/25/2011 3:41:21 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LukeL

True dat.

People who fly a lot tend to be the most likely crash victims.


5 posted on 06/25/2011 3:46:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: LibWhacker

“A 2005 federal report on the September 2003 crash found inaccurate preflight planning resulted in the plane not having enough fuel. The National Transportation Safety Board determined a utility pole the airplane hit during its forced landing, a low ceiling and dark night also contributed to the crash.”

He argued it was equipment failure.


6 posted on 06/25/2011 3:47:00 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"He argued it was equipment failure."

Sounds like the utility pole functioned exactly like it was supposed to.

7 posted on 06/25/2011 3:50:01 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Yep, running out of fuel is BAD. It’ll be interesting to see what caused this crash. Still, at this point, it’s hard for me to see it as anything other than a terrible tragedy.


8 posted on 06/25/2011 3:55:48 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

I have logged roughly 3 million air miles - not without incident - but no crashes. I did it by leaving the flying to professionals and strenuously avoiding these risks:

- Flying on well maintained equipment that is suited for the journey
- Using only travel providers with spotless records
- Skipping trips when there are broad lines of thunderheads rising above 33,000 feet
- Skipping trips where weather phenomenon are present or anticipated like thunder snow, gale force winds, microbursts, etc.

The weather in Michigan last night was not stormy, but not VFR either. There was low cloud cover and shifting wind gusts due a to a cold front moving through. You wouldn’t find me on a puddle jumper last night.


9 posted on 06/25/2011 3:58:29 PM PDT by CreviceTool ( Obama is standing above the country above above the world, he is sort of a God = Evan Thomas)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
He argued it was equipment failure.

I would say, running out of gas is pilot error, not "equipment failure." This posturing and refusal to accept responsibility would not bode well for the future. No doubt the second crash wil be investigated as well, so we'll see.

10 posted on 06/25/2011 3:58:57 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: CreviceTool
So a person who has a car accident in which people died is somehow deranged if he gets another vehicle?
11 posted on 06/25/2011 3:58:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: CreviceTool

It happened last Sunday here in Columbus, too. A pair of doctors, husband and wife from New Jersey crashed on takeoff, both killed.


12 posted on 06/25/2011 3:59:00 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: CreviceTool

Whatever the reason, the sole survivor, Austin, had just verbally committed to play basketball for the University of Michigan in 2013. This kid’s future is now in jeopardy and he’s seen his whole family wiped out. He’s fortunate to have not just survived this crash but the one prior that killed his mom, sister and brother. But, he’ll be lucky if he ever plays basketball again and he’ll have the misfortune of living the rest of his life with the memories of two horrible accidents. God speed to him.


13 posted on 06/25/2011 4:00:32 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (There's a revolution "brewing".....)
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To: CreviceTool
I was a spectator at the scene of a small plane crash in New Jersey some years ago in which 3-4 people were killed. When I recounted the story to someone else, he said my description of the incident sounded so familiar that he thought he was having deja vu.

Sure enough, he had remembered a similar incident from a couple of years earlier in which the same pilot survived a plane crash in which he had run out of fuel.

14 posted on 06/25/2011 4:11:31 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: CreviceTool
Flying is inherently dangerous and requires practice and attention to detail. Even with care accidents can happen to the best pilots. Until the FAA and NTSB report is complete there is no reason to blame the pilot.

The comments left on the source article paint the pilot as a nice church going man who was supportive of general aviation and his local airport.

15 posted on 06/25/2011 4:11:55 PM PDT by pterional
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To: LibWhacker

If you run out of fuel in your car you have to walk, If you run out of fuel in your boat you have to swim, If you run out of fuel in your airplane, you have to pray,because you damned sure aint going to fly.


16 posted on 06/25/2011 4:17:37 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“So a person who has a car accident in which people died is somehow deranged if he gets another vehicle?”

No. The vast majority of automobile accidents involve another vehicle. Often, autos are the only mode of point-to-point travel in less densely populated areas.

The doctor could have flown commercially on American or Delta from FWA to TVC. But more typically, he could have driven the 325 miles. Geez - I drive farther than that between LA and San Jose dozens of times annually - it’s a snap.


17 posted on 06/25/2011 4:19:57 PM PDT by CreviceTool ( Obama is standing above the country above above the world, he is sort of a God = Evan Thomas)
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To: Venturer

But in some planes you can glide. And in others you can deploy a parachute.


18 posted on 06/25/2011 4:22:19 PM PDT by ngat
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To: LukeL

They used to refer to some of the hotter private aircraft as “Doctor killers” because the docs thought their skill at medicine translted into piloting skill.

Gravity is a harsh mistress.


19 posted on 06/25/2011 4:23:09 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

“...The National Transportation Safety Board determined a utility pole the airplane hit during its forced landing also contributed to the crash...”
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I’m not sure when I have read anything quite so stupid as that statement.


20 posted on 06/25/2011 4:32:39 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a (small) monthly donor.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
“...The National Transportation Safety Board determined a utility pole the airplane hit during its forced landing also contributed to the crash...”
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I’m not sure when I have read anything quite so stupid as that statement.


At least they didn't say that the utility pole hit the plane...:^)

I wonder if the plane was a Cirrus - the new “doctor-killer” Bonanza.

It hasn't made the FAA Preliminary Accident/Incident List yet...

http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/

21 posted on 06/25/2011 4:43:44 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: Venturer

Is this a John Denver quote? John’s failure to have the aircraft refueled as causal factors in the accident.


22 posted on 06/25/2011 4:57:35 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: CreviceTool

Its a shame that people have the freedom to choose their mode of travel. such a shame /s


23 posted on 06/25/2011 5:12:03 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: CreviceTool
I learned to fly in 1970 and I fly with a doc a lot. Neither of us has ever crashed an aircraft, ran out of fuel or tried to fly through a utility pole.
Flying is not for everyone and everyone who sits in the left seat is not a good pilot. Preparation and paying attention to details will keep you alive almost all the time. There are those times when mechanical failure or the mistakes of others, ATC or other pilots, can cause serious mishaps and there is nothing you can do about it.
I really think people should wait and see what the results of the mandatory investigation are.
24 posted on 06/25/2011 6:07:11 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: driftdiver

“Its a shame that people have the freedom to choose their mode of travel. such a shame /s”

It’s also understood that people have the freedom to choose their demise as well....


25 posted on 06/25/2011 6:34:29 PM PDT by CreviceTool ( Obama is standing above the country above above the world, he is sort of a God = Evan Thomas)
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To: PLMerite
Gravity is a harsh mistress.

May I appropriate that phrase for my own for-profit use?

Cheers!

26 posted on 06/26/2011 4:37:57 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Yep. Prayers up for the kid. I’d bet he has some rough road ahead.


27 posted on 06/26/2011 4:46:49 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

It reads stupid, but makes sense because there’s a huge difference between a “forced landing” and a “crash”. It was hitting the utility pole that probably turned the forced landing into a crash.

I, and a lot of other aviation enthusiasts, were p*ssed week before last when the loss of the B-17 “Liberty Belle” was called a “crash”. In reality the plane’s crew executed an incredible, textbook forced landing in a field (1 minute 40 seconds from observing the problem to the aircraft on the ground, stopped with brakes set). That the plne was lost was due to the unavailability of fire equipment, it wasn’t a “crash”


28 posted on 06/26/2011 5:11:24 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

I was just parsing the wording of the sentence, I guess.
The pilot crashed the plane into a utility pole while attempting to make a forced landing.
The utility pole did not “contribute” to the crash, it was just standing there minding it’s own business.


29 posted on 06/26/2011 5:37:21 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a (small) monthly donor.)
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To: CreviceTool

I saw a sign in a Airbase that said:There is no reason to fly into a thunderstorm in peacetime.
A pilot told me that there is standing orders to that effect. I saw a picture of a USAF gulfstream that flew into a storm and the nose looked like a golfball. The hail must have been very large.


30 posted on 06/26/2011 8:40:16 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: az_gila
At least they didn't say that the utility pole hit the plane...:^)

I wonder if the plane was a Cirrus - the new “doctor-killer” Bonanza.

It hasn't made the FAA Preliminary Accident/Incident List yet...

http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/


It's now in the data base

http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/media/B_0627_Y.txt

The plane wasn't a new Cirrus, but was a 1975 “doctor killer” Bonanza.

31 posted on 06/28/2011 10:26:20 AM PDT by az_gila
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