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World's longest sea bridge opens in China
MailOnLine ^ | 30th June 2011 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 06/30/2011 10:02:56 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666

China has opened the world's longest cross-sea bridge - which stretches five miles further than the distance between Dover and Calais.

The Jiaozhou Bay bridge is 26.4 miles long and links China's eastern port city of Qingdao to the offshore island Huangdao.

The road bridge, which is 110ft wide and is the longest of its kind, cost nearly £1billion to build.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: bridge; china; marathon
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1 posted on 06/30/2011 10:03:01 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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I was in Shanghai last week. They’ve put their entire freeway system 60 feet in the air. Hundreds of miles of it. Astonishing.


2 posted on 06/30/2011 10:04:54 AM PDT by DManA
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

First good earthquake should take a big chunk out of it.....


3 posted on 06/30/2011 10:05:00 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Amazing structure.


4 posted on 06/30/2011 10:05:04 AM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country.----------In the same way Rush is balance, I am consensus.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Remember when we used to build things like this, before the Globalist Free Traitors ruined America.


5 posted on 06/30/2011 10:05:46 AM PDT by Roninf5-1 (If ignorance is bliss why are so many Americans on anti-depressants?)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

AHHHHHH!!!!

Made in China?

I wouldn’t drive across it for all the Rice in China.


6 posted on 06/30/2011 10:06:02 AM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
The Jiaozhou Bay bridge is 26.4 miles long

Where do I sign up for the Jiaozhou Bay Bridge Marathon?

7 posted on 06/30/2011 10:06:18 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

I wonder if they put the same skill in building that as they have in their rickety damns and fall apart products they sell us?


8 posted on 06/30/2011 10:07:22 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

It costs less than the bridge they want to build acrss the Columbia, but then it doesn’t have a bike trail, mass transit tracks or windmills.

Pray for America


9 posted on 06/30/2011 10:13:27 AM PDT by bray (Would the Country Club vote for Palin or Obama?)
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To: DManA
I was in Shanghai last week. They’ve put their entire freeway system 60 feet in the air. Hundreds of miles of it. Astonishing.

What could possibly go wrong?

10 posted on 06/30/2011 10:14:38 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

That bridge goes too far.


11 posted on 06/30/2011 10:14:49 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: gimme1ibertee
First good earthquake should take a big chunk out of it.....

Actually, if you look into US history concerning infrastructure, you'll see many examples where structures collapsed. And without an earthquake :)

Ever hear of Galloping Gertie? :)

12 posted on 06/30/2011 10:16:37 AM PDT by ponder life
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

ANd without any union workers!


13 posted on 06/30/2011 10:20:03 AM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Always Independent

Yeah, more impressive and 1/10 the cost of Boston’s Big Dig.


14 posted on 06/30/2011 10:22:52 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Lazlo in PA

probably, since a bridge collapse could mean a date with
a firing squad for the designers/builders..


15 posted on 06/30/2011 10:23:34 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: ponder life

The Tacoma Narrows Bridge?


16 posted on 06/30/2011 10:24:38 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

17 posted on 06/30/2011 10:25:07 AM PDT by stormer
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

That is a lot of room for a ship collision.


18 posted on 06/30/2011 10:26:48 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: massgopguy

19 posted on 06/30/2011 10:27:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: massgopguy
The Tacoma Narrows Bridge?

Yes, the one that collapsed in the (1930's, thereabouts) as a result of swaying in the winds.

20 posted on 06/30/2011 10:31:21 AM PDT by ponder life
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Hate to get out on that and have car trouble.


21 posted on 06/30/2011 11:03:28 AM PDT by fso301
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

I don’t think I’d enjoy driving on that damn thing.


22 posted on 06/30/2011 11:05:26 AM PDT by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
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To: ponder life

China has a huge case of penis envy which is why they are building the biggest everything in the world.


23 posted on 06/30/2011 11:17:32 AM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager

Completed in 4 years. Can’t imagine that happening in the U.S. of A. I’ve watched interstate revamps take longer.


24 posted on 06/30/2011 11:21:35 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

The Chinese build the Great Wall hundreds of year ago with little technology; the US cannot build a simple fence.


25 posted on 06/30/2011 11:22:02 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought ("The proposition that the government is always right is manifested either in corruption or benefits)
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To: arderkrag

And I thought the seven mile bridge in the Keys was something!


26 posted on 06/30/2011 11:26:30 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: School of Rational Thought

Good point.


27 posted on 06/30/2011 11:32:37 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: youngidiot

I rode my m/c across a tall bridge over the Appalichicola River that had been bumped by a crane. It was tilted several degrees out of true. Shortly after I crossed, it got closed while they pushed it back upright and checked it for damage. For the next three months my weekly round trip required a 30 mile detour. The problem in Florida is that there is no bedrock and limestone is not terribly much better than mud so bridges and big buildings more or less float on the sand and limestone.


28 posted on 06/30/2011 11:38:12 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: arthurus
I rode my m/c across a tall bridge over the Appalichicola River that had been bumped by a crane. It was tilted several degrees out of true. Shortly after I crossed, it got closed while they pushed it back upright and checked it for damage. For the next three months my weekly round trip required a 30 mile detour. The problem in Florida is that there is no bedrock and limestone is not terribly much better than mud so bridges and big buildings more or less float on the sand and limestone.

I always worry about what would happen if your car broke down or something. 30 frikken miles is a long time to be on a bridge.
29 posted on 06/30/2011 11:42:16 AM PDT by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
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#0 extra miles was the detour to get to another crossing.


30 posted on 06/30/2011 12:14:31 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: glorgau
Totalitarian states have great efficiency. The time frame for such projects is more affected by bureaucratic hurdles then actual contruction work.
31 posted on 06/30/2011 12:18:01 PM PDT by ravager
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To: glorgau
Tallest buildings, longest bridges etc have a lot more to do with national pride then actual utility.
32 posted on 06/30/2011 12:22:07 PM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager
China has a huge case of penis envy which is why they are building the biggest everything in the world.

I don't believe so. However, when China does build the biggest of something, it creates penis envy elsewhere, including state side :)

33 posted on 06/30/2011 12:51:21 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: ravager
Totalitarian states have great efficiency. The time frame for such projects is more affected by bureaucratic hurdles then actual contruction work.

Ya know what's ironic. Back before the fall of the USSR, there were constant comparisons between the free market system and the communist system. Example after example across all industries showed how the free market system works and the communist system doesn't. And the immense gap in productivity.

Fast forward a few decades and China, increasingly is becoming free market. Her efficienies are the result of greater and greater free market forces. Yet, in the end, many critics point to the fact that totalitarian states can get things done quicker. How ironic that that is what is attributed to China's speed to get things built.

Ironic, that historically, we know that communistic systems, totaltarian states are less efficient than free market, democratic states. Yet somehow, China gets credit for her construction efficiencies because of her totaltarian practices rather than the fact there is greater free market force in China today than in the past.

If something didn't work before in terms of efficiency, how can China make it work now unless she is practing a form of free market, free enterprise, etc.?

34 posted on 06/30/2011 1:07:22 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: GSWarrior

ROFL...call Obi Wan Kenobee.


35 posted on 06/30/2011 1:10:02 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Mitt Romney makes Nelson Rockefeller look like Ronald Reagan. NO MITT 2012.)
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To: Fledermaus

This structure has been nominated for an academy award for Best Supporting Bridge.


36 posted on 06/30/2011 1:15:26 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: ponder life

Yes I DO think so. No one in the world is more image conscious and suffering from penis envy then the Chinese. And “biggest in the world” tag always has to do with drawing world attention then actual utility. Chicom agents like you will never admit but that is definitely the case. It is a typical communist tendency to claim superiority over others one way or another. And I don’t think anyone outside of China envies living in a repressed society behind the heavy iron curtains no matter how long their bridges or tall their buildings are.


37 posted on 06/30/2011 2:57:56 PM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager
There was a time when the US had to build the biggest of everything. You'd probably be proud of it if it was still true today and not see it in a negative light.

Yet when China does it, negative comments like yours sprout up like weeds. Using terms like 'penis envy', 'China's claims of superiority', etc. You wouldn't use those terms if America was still building the biggest everything. You'd beam with pride instead. Even beat your chest once in awhile. The animosity towards China for simply building something gradiose makes me wonder who is the one with penis envy.

Throughout the 20th century, Americans boast of the Empire State Building, Hoover Dam, the rail road system, etc. as proud achievements of American ingenuity. But when China builds largest projects.... they're what? Building all to satisfy some deep seated insecurity? It perplexes me what motivates such perspective. Yet, in many ways, I already know the answer.

38 posted on 06/30/2011 3:13:03 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

I didn’t know they drove on the right side of the road. I checked they changed to the right side in 1946.


39 posted on 06/30/2011 3:24:40 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I am still looking for that box I am supposed to think out of.)
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To: ponder life

Re: Actually, if you look into US history concerning infrastructure, you’ll see many examples where structures collapsed. And without an earthquake :)

Prior to ‘04, wrath of Gods such as these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-jlyfzGP-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DSSssHxm4Y&feature=fvwrel is but figments of our imagination based on animated depictions aired in science channels and on PBS just as T-Rex and other Godly out of this world creatures are so what’s human tricks and ingenuity when compared to God all mighty when he gets p*ssed? .


40 posted on 06/30/2011 8:12:41 PM PDT by EdisonOne (http://www.channel4.com/dia/images/Channel4/c4-news/MAY/04/04_helicopter_r_k.jpg)
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To: ponder life
Throughout the 20th century, Americans boast of the Empire State Building, Hoover Dam, the rail road system, etc. as proud achievements of American ingenuity. But when China builds largest projects.... they're what? Building all to satisfy some deep seated insecurity? It perplexes me what motivates such perspective. Yet, in many ways, I already know the answer.

The American projects were examples of ingenuity, in the sense that many of them broke technological barriers. The Chinese projects are run-of-the-mill in the sense that all it takes to build them is money - the know-how was created many decades ago, in projects like the American ones.

The strangeness (and uneconomic nature) of Shanghai highways 60 feet in the air over agricultural land is obvious to all but a Chinese zealot like yourself. China is the third largest country in the world. If there's one thing that China lacks, it's not land. Much of Europe is more densely-populated than China, and it's not building monuments to political ego like China is. Bottom line is that China is building very expensive structures that are not justified by China's current level of development - structures that will require large amounts of money to maintain. This is why talk of penis envy continues to crop up. Gold-plating of this nature is not simply unnecessary, it detracts from other important infrastructural needs that will become apparent once you visit the average Chinese city.

41 posted on 06/30/2011 8:43:32 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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Re: The American projects were examples of ingenuity, in the sense that many of them broke technological barriers.

Well said, but, [the breaking of this ingenuity/technological barrier] is by no means accomplished without the pain, the blood, the tear, and the most important common denominator — MONEY MONEY and MORE MONEY which comes attached and which makes all things tick in this world.

Facts: America came out of WWII the VICTOR and as the victor she makes the rules over the waves she rules. In other words, she had the leisure to lure brains of all makes and models from around the world and exploited the ingenuity these massive brain masses was gifted.

This brain mass included recruits such as Jews, Germans, Brits, Frenchman, Arabs, Indians, Japanese, even Chinese and from there — America’s massive [industrial-revolution-on-steroid] explodes make her the top economy in the world as the rest of the world is left with the task of picking up of the tabs (ruins) of WWII.

What I’m driving at here is this: if you have the bread and not having to worry about the butter that comes with it comes dinner time, you are bliss with the freedom and the leisure to play and play we in North America definitely have plenty time — AND MONEY — the two items which complements one another for the Wright Brothers to make it.

Example: When I was a kid back in the 70’s, I love model airplanes and made it a hobby. Ever since, the question [Why can’t we insert a tiny TV cameras, even weapons, in the belly of these mini aircrafts] and employ it as an actual military weapon keeps lingering in my mind. Those were the days of the TV series “Mission Impossible” and “Apollo moon missions” therefore the technology was definitely available.

Lo and behold, now, here in 2011, the technology, UAV, is all the rage. I of course did not have the money to turn my hobby into a devoted interest that some people did. But, if I had the bread and the leisure to turn my interest into the devoted bicycle shop that the Wright Brothers did, even if I couldn’t have come up with the Kitty Hawk, there definitely couldn’t have been any problem for me to go radio controlled P-51 Mustangs into an enterprise and made a killing bank account out of it.

What I’m tryin’ to say is this: The Chinese have come of age. They are now beyond their days of cheap toasters. The toasters they now make would put us in awe if we come face to face with it. Example: when I took a trip there in ‘04 just to please the Chinese girl friend, I was surprised to find that skyscrapper-wise and highway & byway-wise, that the PRC is not what we had all thought of it to be. When I visited, I thought I had been “beamed me up Scotty] 200 years into the future when compared to that of what we know here in North America


42 posted on 07/01/2011 8:58:00 AM PDT by EdisonOne (http://www.channel4.com/dia/images/Channel4/c4-news/MAY/04/04_helicopter_r_k.jpg)
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To: EdisonOne
Facts: America came out of WWII the VICTOR and as the victor she makes the rules over the waves she rules. In other words, she had the leisure to lure brains of all makes and models from around the world and exploited the ingenuity these massive brain masses was gifted. This brain mass included recruits such as Jews, Germans, Brits, Frenchman, Arabs, Indians, Japanese, even Chinese and from there — America’s massive [industrial-revolution-on-steroid] explodes make her the top economy in the world as the rest of the world is left with the task of picking up of the tabs (ruins) of WWII.Actually, the US was the biggest economy in the world at the turn of the 20th century. This was how the US was able to both fund its allies and actively participate in WWI and build more war equipment than all of its allies and adversaries combined during WWII.

The Chinese had triple the US population during that entire period, have higher IQ's and presumably more intelligent people, at least in terms of passing exams. What they don't have is creativity - the ability to move beyond the test material. This is why a continental-scale country with several times Europe's population and land mass has consistently under-performed relative to Europe. (Note that the relevant comparison is not to individual European countries - it is to Europe as a whole, given that China itself was once like Europe - dozens of individual countries with distinct languages. In China, the distinct languages remain, but the writing system has been unified).

43 posted on 07/01/2011 1:40:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: EdisonOne
....human tricks and ingenuity when compared to God all mighty when he gets p*ssed? .

I didn't quite understand your overall comment (the relevance of 04).

But I do believe God wants man to rule over nature. Its clearly in the bible. And man can be successful by taming rivers, exploiting resources (wisely, that is), and using our gifts and abilities to protect ourselves from tsunami's and earthquakes.

I do believe it is God honoring when man uses the skills that he has given us, to work towards early earthquake, tornado, tsunami, etc. warnings. To understand the weather patterns, etc. And to build labs, perform research, etc. in building earthquake proof buildings that won't collapse.

We are at the mercy of God when we deny him. But when we acknowledge him, he gives us dominion over all of his creation, including the wrath of mother nature.

44 posted on 07/02/2011 9:28:54 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: Zhang Fei
The American projects were examples of ingenuity, in the sense that many of them broke technological barriers.

Actually, there have been stories of contests in the area of skyscrapers in who has the tallest between American cities and projects. So, I doubt its intentions were so pure as to demonstrate technological barriers.

And some of that competition has merely shifted towards Asia like China or the Middle East like Dubai. And its healthy competition. Except, there will be some in the West that will see this shift with contempt. Had it stayed completely in the West, they would have beamed with pride.

The Chinese projects are run-of-the-mill in the sense that all it takes to build them is money - the know-how was created many decades ago, in projects like the American ones.

Oh, I wouldn't be so sure. Do a little research on architectural firms in the West and their work in China. The Chinese government, for many projects, have given them a blank check to try all sorts of new things. One only has to look at the Olympic structures that were built. They were more than run of the mill.

The strangeness (and uneconomic nature) of Shanghai highways 60 feet in the air over agricultural land is obvious to all but a Chinese zealot like yourself.

Actually, I'm not a zealot. People like yourselves are the zealots. I'm not saying that just to throw it back in your lap for arguement's sake. My position has always been, China has the right to industrialize. And many of her mistakes are no different than past mistakes made in the West. I call people like yourselves the zealots because you demonize everything China does as she moves forward. I'm not the one with a hidden agenda, really. You are. I don't say that argumentively, but that is how I see.

China is the third largest country in the world. If there's one thing that China lacks, it's not land. Much of Europe is more densely-populated than China, and it's not building monuments to political ego like China is.

And here is a good example of what I am talking about. Critical of China's building and using the population density of Europe as a reason. And yet, you realize, that if the population density of China is lower than Europe, America's is even lower. As an example, the Empire State Building was built at a time when the US population was only 125 million, less than half of what it is today. Why the need for such a tall structure when the US population density is so low in 1933? Even today, it is 1/4 of China.

Bottom line is that China is building very expensive structures that are not justified by China's current level of development - structures that will require large amounts of money to maintain.

China used 1.8 billion tons of cement last year while the rest of the world used only 1.6 billion tons (combined). They will have some misses. But most of what she builds with all that concrete, she will need.

This is why talk of penis envy continues to crop up.

I don't say this lightly, nor do I believe I am being partial, but it is a strong opinion on my part, that many of the judgements against China stems from nothing more by some (key word is 'some', not all, but 'some') in the West who simply resents a non-Western nation, and one that is larger than the combined Europe and North America, to build an industrialized and developed nation. I firmly believe this is the root of the resentment, pure and simple. And I have read some of your postings now and then. And that is the only conclusion I can come to. The penis envy comes from the Western side of the pond. And it is because China is upsetting an economic balance that many Westerners had grown up with.

Gold-plating of this nature is not simply unnecessary, it detracts from other important infrastructural needs that will become apparent once you visit the average Chinese city.

Most of China's large projects serves a purpose. Ocassionaly, they will build something with a dual purpose that will include some grandeur. Beijing's airport terminal is one example. However, as large as it is, will be at capacity before the end of the decade. That's why Beijing is building a 2nd airport. Most of what she builds, will be used. Even this new high speed rail system, which is already the largest in the world and soon to be larger than the rest of the world combind, will be fully utilized.

45 posted on 07/02/2011 10:16:39 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: arthurus

You can’t float ON a sinkhole...(g)


46 posted on 07/05/2011 7:56:38 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: ponder life

Actually, I’m ashamed of what we’ve become.

Three times a week I drive a section of I-10 under repair. They block off a lane for 6 miles, and then? Well, in 3 months of driving by, I have yet to see someone work with a tool I couldn’t pick up in my arms. And I have never seen more than 2 people working, and it usually is just one.

6 miles, and one person will be using a pick on a pothole. Usually with 4 guys watching...but still, you do NOT repair 6 miles of highway with hand tools!

At least, not in the America I grew up in...


47 posted on 07/05/2011 8:00:41 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: ponder life

“I firmly believe this is the root of the resentment, pure and simple.”

OR it could be because China is really not our friend. They have don’t care about quality or safety. They don’t honor intellectual property rights.

They have a horrendous record on human rights. Then there is the pollution they are adding to the world. Dumping toxic chemicals at every turn so they can keep manufacturing costs artificially low.


48 posted on 07/05/2011 8:05:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Yes, seems like more and more jobs, especially in government, involve people who aren't actually building something, yet overseeing the guy who is working :) Though, lately, with austerity measures, we will see less of that.

The Interstate system itself is a reminder of a time when things did get built quickly. The interstate system started in the 1950s and finalized by the 1990's. Over 40,000 miles of freeway.

49 posted on 07/06/2011 4:38:44 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: driftdiver
They have don’t care about quality or safety. They don’t honor intellectual property rights.

China is improving on quality and safety. And while at a snails pace, are strengthening intellectual property rights. However, once again, these issues have come up with other countries in the past.

They have a horrendous record on human rights. Then there is the pollution they are adding to the world. Dumping toxic chemicals at every turn so they can keep manufacturing costs artificially low.

China isn't a Western democracy, but neither are they a brutal dictatorship. And they are a very large Oligarch (communist party membership is over 70 million vs the Royal family in many Middle Eastern countries). And China isn't the first country to have environmental disasters as they industrialize. All countries went through that period, including the US.

So, while there are issues that crop up with China, they certainly aren't the first nor the worst. However, they are the largest. And more importantly, they are moving up the value chain. And alterting economic balance.

So, I still stand by my original comment, that there is a deep seated resentment against this glaring potential of altering the economic balance of the world. Even if China developed into a Western style democracy with all the intellectual and environmental concerns addressed, some in the West will still resent her rise.

50 posted on 07/06/2011 4:47:37 PM PDT by ponder life
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