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Why Bachmann's Candidacy is DOA While Palin's Endures: An Historical Perspective
07/01/2011 | Brices Crossroads

Posted on 07/01/2011 6:13:52 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads

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To: gov_bean_ counter
Wow, very well stated.

For me, Palin rings true on a gut level, but then again, she's a Westerner who came from a background of hard-country pioneers and independent-minded folks a whole helluva lot like my own. I recognize her.

For me, Bachmann is kind of like a foreigner. She comes across like an Easterner, and by that I only mean that I am not very good at understanding her style, the same way as Easterners are often baffled at Westerners' casual disregard for the more refined "rules" of fashion and social protocol. And ... some of my best friends are Easterners! But a true-blue born-and-bred Easterner can never become more than an honorary Westerner, the same as a hard-core Westerner can never really understand that nice reserve and formality that's simply a part of the Easterner's make-up.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it! ;^)

21 posted on 07/01/2011 7:30:26 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Brices Crossroads

That was quite a read for a fellow like me, but I managed it :)

I liked your synopsis here....

Unlike 1964, 1996 and 2008, the GOP in 2012 has a genuine, indeed excellent. shot at victory. It is not going to exacerbate the disastrous formula of those election cycles by nominating a mere Congresswoman whose resume is even thinner than the Senators who went down to crashing defeats. 2012 is a year in which the GOP will nominate a governor to challenge a President, who came from Congress without Executive experience and has been a catastrophe. It will have two governors to choose from...Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin. Those who are inclined to vote for Michele Bachmann should know that they are very likely casting a vote for Mitt Romney. Bachmann cannot generate the political or financial support to defeat Romney, nor can she overcome the visceral reluctance of anti-Washington GOP primary voters to nominate a member of the hated Congress. Her impact, if she has any at all, will be to assist Mitt Romney in securing the nomination by drawing voters away from Palin. Let us remind our confreres, whom Bachmann is trying to lure, that those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it.

Well said! Cant say I disagree with a word.


22 posted on 07/01/2011 7:36:50 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2012 or bust)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“[Michele Bachmann]seems to be climbing the polls pretty fast.”

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A poll can be made to say anything the pollster wants it to say, by jiggering the sample and weighting it. It is especially easy to do this early. The polls that have shown her ahead of Palin have been some university polls, which always have a leftist bias, and PPP a notorious Democrat push poll outfit that had Obama beating Perry in Texas the other day. Ask yourself why Bachmann is getting so many puff piece from the Washington Post, Politico, PPP and Time. A blind man could see it in a minute: she is being artificially pumped up in order to promote the candidate the Left really wants—Mitt Romney.

In the final analysis, it won’t work. But if you think for a second this phony poll surge of Bachmann’s is real, you are deluded. The objective here is to promote Romney and to try to block Palin. This strategy will be an epic fail on all fronts.


23 posted on 07/01/2011 7:44:39 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Friendofgeorge

Thanks, F.O.G.


24 posted on 07/01/2011 7:46:06 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads

Phillip Crane? Sheesh, thats weak... I’d say shes got a better shot than Palin, for example.


25 posted on 07/01/2011 7:47:36 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Not too long ago, Trump led all the polls.

Polls this far out are nothing but foolishness, it is over 7 months till the first primary, and the campaign has scarcely begun.

You also forgot to mention she hasn't said she isn't running, which means you can guess as well as the rest of us.

Just a few points for you to ponder.

26 posted on 07/01/2011 7:48:50 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: ansel12
“I think that she craves celebrity and a chance to tell people about herself, it was when she found a stage that her fortunes changed, she is the sudden celebrity candidate, with the empty resume.”

Bachmann’s resume is very similar to candidate Obama’s in 2007:
- No executive experience
- Less than 5 years in Congress. plus 2-3 terms in the state legislature
- Never chaired a committee or subcommittee
- Never had a bill they sponsored enacted into law

27 posted on 07/01/2011 7:52:52 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Nonstatist

“Phillip Crane? Sheesh, thats weak...I’d say shes got a better shot than Palin, for example.”

Not as weak as your argument, which doesn’t even rise to the level of indecipherable but is essentially invisible.


28 posted on 07/01/2011 7:53:19 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads

Phil Crane! Now there’s a name from long-ago.


29 posted on 07/01/2011 7:55:06 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Brices Crossroads

Big difference of course, Reagan was running, Palin who knows?


30 posted on 07/01/2011 7:58:35 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: bwc2221

“Bachmann’s resume is very similar to candidate Obama’s in 2007”

You are quite correct. However, Obama had one thing on his resume that Bachmann did not. Unlike Bachmann he had won a state wide race. Bachmann has never even RUN a state wide race, much less onwon one. Now she is campaigning to be the GOP candidate to run 50 state wide races at once.

Talk about risky. The GOP is not about to roll the dice on her. No way.


31 posted on 07/01/2011 7:58:43 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads

Reagan helped turn the creeping tide of socialism back on itself. We need someone to do the same in 2012.

Obviously Mitt Romney is not the one to do it. I think of Romney as a surfer riding the tide of socialism to whatever personal gains he imagines it brings him.

And it seems Michele Bachmann is the bikini clad, sunbathing babe on the beach, giggling and waving to Mitt Romney, the surfing socialist.


32 posted on 07/01/2011 8:05:37 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Leftist ideology is an intellectual failure, proven by the fact that it must be kept hidden. Morons.)
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To: Patrick1

“Big difference of course, Reagan was running, Palin who knows?”

Are you serioius? Reagan didn’t declare until November 1979. Phil Crane delcared his candidacy in July 1978, and according to Craig Shirley’s excellent chronicle of hte 1980 campaign, Crane was publicly declaring his belief that Reagan would not run throughout 1978 and 1979.

Palin has given far more overt indications (the bus tour, the movie, hiring campaign staff) that she is running than did Reagan at this point in 1979.


33 posted on 07/01/2011 8:05:50 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: reasonisfaith

I think your imagery is apropos of both Romney and Bachmann. It captures their collective gravitas. LOL


34 posted on 07/01/2011 8:08:16 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: PaleoBob

“Phil Crane! Now there’s a name from long-ago.”

Don’t look now, but he is wearing a skirt and using the name Michele and has gotten so senile that he doesn’t know the difference between John Wayne and John Wayne Gacy.


35 posted on 07/01/2011 8:10:10 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads

Nonsense. Ronald Reagan was running the second he finished his GOP Convention speech in 1976.

Bachmann is not Crane and Palin is not Reagan. We need to deal with what we got. And to this point we don’t have Palin.


36 posted on 07/01/2011 8:11:06 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Brices Crossroads

America elected an empty suit in 2008 and it ain’t working out too well. I am not about to elect a matching empty dress in 2012.


37 posted on 07/01/2011 8:12:51 PM PDT by curth (Sarah Palin: THE Genuine Article - Accept No Cheap Imitation)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Palin is not Reagan. Reagan was a 2 term governor with an extensive base of suporters in the Party. Palin is fairly unpopular outside her tiny base in the Party and is essentially a lone wolf. Bachmann is more articulate than her and more credible, IMO. Crane was a pretty anonymous conservative House member and not particularly charismatic. ...Is that decipherable enough, groupie?


38 posted on 07/01/2011 8:14:06 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: gov_bean_ counter
One doesn't smile with their eyes, the other smiles with their whole face....

Michelle's eyes do not shine with hope. They are crazed. Don't believe me? Look at her eyes.

39 posted on 07/01/2011 8:14:24 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This IS my blog site.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

I think the key to whether Palin will actually run or not depends on what Rick Perry does. It’s quite likely we will hear from Perry’s decision before Palin. If he does enter the race, I doubt Palin would get in because at that point you have potentially 5 conservatives battling for votes, and while McCotter, Cain, and Bachmann might guess a smaller percentage than Perry and Palin, it is highly likely Romney would win a majority of contests by plurality with just the RINO base.

It’s possible the two are already in cooperation. Other than his recent back surgery today, is there any real reason for Perry to remain quiet on whether he’s making a run? He won’t wait too long though because I think he wants to participate in Ames.


40 posted on 07/01/2011 8:15:15 PM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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