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Can Casey Anthoney get additional charges?
Me | 7/5/11 | self

Posted on 07/05/2011 5:20:47 PM PDT by Mr. K

Now that her defense consisted of ADMITTING that the child died in her presense, then what happened to the body?

Who put the duct tape on?

WHO THREW IT INTO THE SWAMP?


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Can the judge recommend additional charges? Now that ADMITED she was there?

Isn't it a felony to tamper with a body?

1 posted on 07/05/2011 5:20:48 PM PDT by Mr. K
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To: Mr. K

Florida stinks.


2 posted on 07/05/2011 5:22:26 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Mr. K

Oh, I’m sure the media will stretch this out for months and you’ll get all your answers(sic).


3 posted on 07/05/2011 5:23:21 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Mr. K

Improper disposal of human remains is very possible.


4 posted on 07/05/2011 5:23:53 PM PDT by omega4179
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Can the judge recommend additional charges? Now that ADMITED she was there?

Put a fork in it, she has been deemed Innocent and another murderer will be set free to enjoy the freedoms as all others do under our Constitution.

5 posted on 07/05/2011 5:25:12 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Mr. K

FL has a way of taking care of this. In the other missing girl case Haleigh Cummings, they got the person that allegedly knew something on drug charges and gave them hard time.


6 posted on 07/05/2011 5:26:01 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: omega4179

I would think there are some very unanswered questions this judge might want to know about

This is at minimum an admission of the additional crime of tampering with a body

Does anyone know what the appropriate charge might be? and possible sentence?


7 posted on 07/05/2011 5:27:03 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Mr. K

Next investigation..
http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/profiles/blogs/mom-of-murdered-obama-gay


8 posted on 07/05/2011 5:27:18 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Mr. K

In the OJ trial, Nicole’s family and the Goldmans brought a wronful death suit against OJ in order to deny him a way to profit. It is a civil trial, not a criminal one.

But for little Caylee? Probably not anyone left that would do that.


9 posted on 07/05/2011 5:27:36 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Mr. K

Wouldn’t it take an indictment to add additional charges? Can a judge just add charges without a formal charge by law enforcement?


10 posted on 07/05/2011 5:28:00 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: EGPWS
Put a fork in it, she has been deemed Innocent and another murderer will be set free to enjoy the freedoms as all others do under our Constitution.

I agree with putting a fork in it, but she was not deemed innocent; which is quite different than 'not guilty'.

11 posted on 07/05/2011 5:28:09 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Mr. K
Can't the “mother” be put on lie detector?
12 posted on 07/05/2011 5:28:12 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: Mr. K

Can the judge recommend additional charges? Now that ADMITED she was there?

She admitted being there? When? So much went on, I never heard that. Thx.


13 posted on 07/05/2011 5:28:31 PM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: indylindy

wrongful death suit, oops


14 posted on 07/05/2011 5:29:05 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Mr. K

No.

It would be double jeopardy as it would be charging a crime from the same set of operative facts.

Furthermore, using it as a defense isn’t an admission unless she were to take the stand and say so.


15 posted on 07/05/2011 5:29:40 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: omega4179; Mr. K
Improper disposal of human remains is very possible.

But shouldn't she have been charged with that too?

16 posted on 07/05/2011 5:30:16 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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I'm so pissed I can hardly see straight....this beeeeach killed this sweet young child and those idiots on the jury let her walk..............hello OJ........
17 posted on 07/05/2011 5:30:16 PM PDT by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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I'm so pissed I can hardly see straight....this beeeeach killed this sweet young child and those idiots on the jury let her walk..............hello OJ........
18 posted on 07/05/2011 5:30:20 PM PDT by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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To: Mr. K

By finding her guilty of lying about the manner of death (”she drowned in my parents’ pool”), the jury MUST find her guilty of the murder charge. Why place yourself at the scene of death if you weren’t there? Tot Mom jurors cannot add 2 and 2. It is definitely the case that moral illiteracy is moral destructive to justice than the inability to read. -


19 posted on 07/05/2011 5:30:25 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: doc1019

From wqhat I understand a Judge can forward additional charges to the DA when some admissiojn of a crime occurs in his court.

Her defnse was that Caylee drowned in a pool and her and dad then... did what?


20 posted on 07/05/2011 5:30:33 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: doc1019

That is correct. It would take an indictment. This case is over. The judge doesn’t serve that purpose.


21 posted on 07/05/2011 5:30:58 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Mr. K
Nope - only 4 counts of lying to the cops, each of which carry a max of 1 year. Defense will argue that all 4 should be served concurrently, and sentence her to time served.
She can now write a book, sell her movie rights, get a new tattoo......Money and fame for this murderess
22 posted on 07/05/2011 5:31:20 PM PDT by jrg
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To: RIghtwardHo

doubvle jeopardy is when you cannot be tried AGAIN for the SAME offense

She was not charged with tampering with a body...

So that is my question- can she be?


23 posted on 07/05/2011 5:32:20 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: omega4179
Improper disposal of human remains is very possible.

Illegal dumping is a civil fine.

24 posted on 07/05/2011 5:32:56 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mr. K

The Judge can ask the DA to investigate, but he can’t forward charges or anything like it.

Furthermore, a defense is not an admission. Only her statement is an admission.

Remember, the point of a trial is for the State to prove their case. Positing other theories than what the state proffers is just putting them to proof. It admits nothing.


25 posted on 07/05/2011 5:33:24 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: indylindy

Could a childrens advocacy organization file suit to ensure any profits from this event be it any form of media be given to a missing childrens fund or project.


26 posted on 07/05/2011 5:33:58 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: kittymyrib
Florida stinks.

Freepers are ignorant?

27 posted on 07/05/2011 5:34:08 PM PDT by Paradox (Obnoxious, Bumbling, Absurd, Maladroit, Assinine)
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To: Paleo Conservative

She could have been, but was not

So... now that her defense was that the girl fied in the pool, someone needs to be held accountable for throwing the body in a swamp

IT must have been and entire jury of Obama supporters


28 posted on 07/05/2011 5:35:22 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Mr. K
Can the judge recommend additional charges? Now that ADMITED she was there?

No, the judge is not going to do that. And the prosecution is not going to want another bite of this rotten apple. This woman is going become obscenely rich from this, but she is a vile person and her evil will catch up with her eventually.

Face it, this was just a stupid jury. It's really that simple. There are a lot of people that think the prosecution's burden is higher than it is supposed to be. Too many people watch CSI and Criminal Minds and have a distorted view of forensics and what trials typical look like. Too many people fail to understand that circumstantial cases are not unusual at all. You even read some of that sentiment here with the "well I wasn't 100% certain so she shouldn't be convicted" nonsense. Far too many people do not understand the prosecution's burden is reasonable doubt, not 100% certainty of guilt.

30 posted on 07/05/2011 5:38:37 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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Actually, that’s not quite correct (was a Prosecutor for 25 years). You can not be tried for the same offense OR any lesser included offense arising from the same set of operative facts.

While there is an argument to be made that tampering is not a lesser included ... be assured the Court would likely rule that it is as it arises from the same set of operative facts.

The reason for this is to keep the State from doing something like charging you with First Degree ... losing ... coming back and charging you with Second Degree ... losing ... etc.


31 posted on 07/05/2011 5:38:43 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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I really don’t know. One thing I do know is that the Anthonys won’t do it. Caylee was basically forgotten and discarded as trash. I was appalled yesterday when Jose Baez accused the prosecution of playing to emotions by showing a tiny video of Caylee. I thought she was the reason they were in that courtroom.

I must be wrong about that.

The Anthonys? They will keep their little shrine and ash urn, mollycoddle Casey as she abuses them, and write a book.

I myself will buy no book that profits any of them.


32 posted on 07/05/2011 5:41:28 PM PDT by dforest
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To: RIghtwardHo
It would be double jeopardy as it would be charging a crime from the same set of operative facts.

I believe the determinant for double jeopardy is similarity of charge, not operative facts. Otherwise the system could be easily subverted simply by filing wildly inapplicable charges and gaining acquital, and thus indemnification against appropriate charges. Think murder charges for theft, for example - you'd get acquited for murder, and be protected from being charged for theft, even though the evidence would convict you of theft.

AFAIK, the court would have to approve new charges after reviewing them for substantive difference from the previous charges. This is usually justified by the introduction of new evidence, but prosecutorial misconduct could suffice just as well.

Which is interesting, because the Casey Anthony prosecutor just resigned - effective immediately.

33 posted on 07/05/2011 5:42:32 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Shoot....

but thanks for that excellent explanation

It does make sense


34 posted on 07/05/2011 5:43:13 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: RIghtwardHo
Yes/No??

Her parents might be able to file a civil suit against her...for their loss. It might at least bring the truth out.

35 posted on 07/05/2011 5:44:23 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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I don’t think people understand reasonable doubt. They now think the prosecution has to remove any and all doubt.

DNA is great, but now people seem to want DNA proof in every case.


36 posted on 07/05/2011 5:44:32 PM PDT by dforest
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They are saying she drowned.


37 posted on 07/05/2011 5:44:32 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I blame the prosecutor not the Jury. He wanted a trophy on the wall and did not have the goods for murder1. He probably could have had a conviction on manslaughter or something similar.


38 posted on 07/05/2011 5:44:54 PM PDT by HChampagne (I am not an AARP member and never will be.)
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To: Mr. K

While admitting she was there, she did not admit to disposing of the body. If there were to be charges along those lines, I suspect they had to be part of the trial to avoid the double jeopardy issue any additional charges face.


39 posted on 07/05/2011 5:46:04 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)
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To: freekitty

Evidence tampering?


40 posted on 07/05/2011 5:47:08 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Who knows.


41 posted on 07/05/2011 5:49:42 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Squantos

“... any profits from this event... be given to a missing children’s fund”.

I thought today (after hearing the verdict) what future will Casey have? I wouldn’t hire her to walk my dog. I wouldn’t want to live next to her. What honest, good man would want a relationship with her? Then it came to me... a book deal and a possible movie deal. As messed up as this possibility is... she may end up making tons of money for her “story”. IMHO.


42 posted on 07/05/2011 5:52:51 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Mr. K

The little girl committed suicide of course. First she drowned herself, then put duct tape on her nose and mouth then took herself someplace and buried herself. I’m not a lawyer so I can’t comment on the sequence of events /sarc


43 posted on 07/05/2011 5:54:42 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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what about nanny zannies defamation lawsuit?


44 posted on 07/05/2011 5:55:19 PM PDT by hecht (TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
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To: Talisker

Well, you’re close but it’s called the “same elements” test.

And, you are correct. The system could be perverted but why would a Prosecutor do that? My job was to get a conviction. I wasn’t about to charge wildly to help someone avoid prosecution.

This is a bit long, but is a good recitation of Double Jeopardy:

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d075.htm

But we always had to be very careful to consider what charges could fairly arise from the same set of operative facts. If we didn’t, we could be screwed.


45 posted on 07/05/2011 5:57:05 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: SeaHawkFan

Scottish law covers that well. The jury can return a verdict of “Not Proven”. If the Crown (in Scotland’s case) can come up with additional evidence the accused can be re-tried.


46 posted on 07/05/2011 5:57:11 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Maybe. Don’t know if the FL law would permit a civil case by grandparents.


47 posted on 07/05/2011 5:58:12 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Mr. K

Believe me, I feel your pain and frustration.


48 posted on 07/05/2011 5:59:50 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: momtothree

Thus my suggestion. No one in that childs family should ever profit from her death.....


49 posted on 07/05/2011 6:01:41 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos
Thus my suggestion. No one in that childs family should ever profit from her death.....

Can't stop her from profiting now that she's been found not guilty.

50 posted on 07/05/2011 6:03:14 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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