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Posted on 07/07/2011 6:22:11 PM PDT by Chode
2011 BRITISH GRAND PRIX
Venue: Valencia, Spain
Date: Sunday 26 June
Lap length: 3.367 miles
Race laps: 57
2010 winner: Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull)
First grand prix: 2008
Fri Sunny 18c
Sat Sunny 21c
Sun Cloudy 20c
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McLaren's Lewis Hamilton has hit back at his detractors as prepares for this weekend's British Grand Prix.
Full story: London's Evening Standard
Ferrari driver Felipe Massa will not let speculation over his future distract him as he prepares for Silverstone, despite persistent reports that he is set to be replaced. (Press Association)
Jenson Button is hoping for rain at Silverstone as he bids to record his first podium finish at a British Grand Prix. The 2009 world champion's best finish in the race to date is fourth.
Full story: Daily Express
Formula 1's governing body, the FIA, has announced that there will only be one DRS zone at Silverstone. It will be positioned from just after turn four to include the turn five kink and the Wellington straight on the run down to Brooklands.
Full story: ESPN F1
Red Bull's championship leader Sebastian Vettel says his victory salute, where he thrusts his index finger skywards, is not a sign of arrogance or ruthless self-belief.
Full story: The Times (subscription required)
F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone is hopeful South Africa can make a return to the grand prix calendar. A deal could be signed within weeks which would see Cape Town added to the schedule. The last race to be held in the country was in 1993, when Alain Prost won at Kyalami for Williams.
Full story: Daily Express
"The key element on Friday is SW gusts of 30-35mph, making v tricky conditions. Saturday breezy; SW gusts 20-30mph. Crosswind element will be key factor Fri/Sat, especially likely to greatly unsettle cars thro Becketts/Maggots section."
BBC weatherman Ian Fergusson on Twitter
I got two words for ya: Seb Vettel.
They’re holding the British Grand Prix in Spain?
I knew that managment was making a mess of F1, but running the British GP in Spain???
Venue: Silverstone, Northamptonshire
Date: Sunday 11 July
Lap length: 3.660 miles
Race laps: 52
2010 winner: Mark Webber (Red Bull)
First grand prix: 1948
No, it looks like even they aren’t foolish enough to try the British GP in Spain. It looks like you need a new source. The info looks bad across the board. Course lenght wrong, wrong winner - Vettel won the pole, not the race, wrong number of laps....
The British Grand Prix is in Spain...
Am I missing something?
Ah! OK, makes more sense. Never mind my other post.
Don’t worry. I understand. As race day approaches, all the blood goes to your little head and you don’t think as clearly. You just want beer, ethanol, motor fumes and loud noise. Perfectly understandable.
What beter way to promote globalism and the European Union?
Silverstone has some significant terrain to deal with, e.g., between Club & Priory. In between The Bridge & Priory its downhill and very bumpy. Gotta have the setup dialed in correctly to enter Brooklands correctly; car has to be able to handle the roll for the hard left entry to Brooklands followed by the very hard right through Luffield.
If the set-up aint right, you'll burn up the tires.
Given the significant elevation changes on various parts of the course, gearing is critical also. Coming out of Abbey and you're climing 20' easily.
|6||14||Adrian Sutil||Force India-Mercedes||1:51.738||1.771||18|
|7||15||Paul di Resta||Force India-Mercedes||1:51.781||1.814||7|
McLaren boss Martin Whitmarsh has questioned the supposed disparity in terms of the new off-throttle blown diffuser regulations introduced ahead of this weekend's British Grand Prix, explaining that engine supplier Renault has successfully negotiated with the FIA in order to limit the damage of the sport's newest ruling.
It has been revealed that reigning Champions Red Bull have been allowed to keep throttle levels at 50 percent under braking with their engine units, 30 percent more than universally agreed when the cut-back was outlined earlier in the season.
"We learnt half-way through the session that Christian (Horner) hadnt lost as much as we expected as obviously the rules are slightly fluid and appear to change by the hour at the moment, so we are still learning is the answer," Whitmarsh explained during the Friday press conference at the newly refurbished Silverstone circuit.
"I think the expectation is that when you are off the throttle the engine throttles would be closed but there has been a negotiation and as I understand Renaults throttles are 50 percent open under braking and I think that is probably not what most of us expected coming into this event.
"Thats been a little bit of a revelation that we gathered during the course of the sessions today and we are trying to understand what we have to do."
However, Red Bull Racing Team Principal Christian Horner responded to the comments made by Whitmarsh and believes the FIA has reacted to the 'very complex situation' in a fair manner, making allowances for individual engine manufacturers.
"Martins interpretation is interesting," Horner said. "There has been a series of technical directives that have happened since Valencia and the latest technical directive is quite clear in that engines that have been run in previous configurations the FIA would take into account on an equitable basis.
"I think there was an expectation that coming here obviously a lot of focus has been placed on Red Bull. Do Red Bull have a silver bullet ion their car? We dont but at the same time we expect the FIA to regulate in a fair and proper manner and thats exactly what they have done in this case. They are the only ones with all the facts. They are the only ones with the data and they have looked at it."
In Renaults case, the main factor behind the FIAs allowance is reliability-related, with the engine manufacturer concerned about the race-long effects of the rule changes.
"They have listened to Mercedes case and allowed Mercedes certain parameters. They have looked at Renaults case and they have allowed certain parameters based on an historical content, if you like, on what is a very, very complex subject.
"It perhaps would have been better dealt with at the end of the season, when the exhausts move to a completely different location which will remove an awful lot of the emotion that seems to surround this topic."
|6||15||Paul di Resta||Force India-Mercedes||1:34.472||1:32.569||1:31.929||14|
|11||14||Adrian Sutil||Force India-Mercedes||1:34.454||1:32.617||14|
|Q1 107% Time||1:39.156|
Who lost their gear box? Bummers.
Oh, that was Trulli; smoked the engine. It appears he burned up the exhaust valves.
Riiiiiigggggggght; as if.
I don't know how that's implemented (how does the leading car know he's less than a second out front)?
|2||1||Sebastian Vettel||RBR-Renault||52||+16.5 secs||2||18|
|3||2||Mark Webber||RBR-Renault||52||+16.9 secs||1||15|
|4||3||Lewis Hamilton||McLaren-Mercedes||52||+28.9 secs||10||12|
|5||6||Felipe Massa||Ferrari||52||+29.0 secs||4||10|
|6||8||Nico Rosberg||Mercedes||52||+60.6 secs||9||8|
|7||17||Sergio Perez||Sauber-Ferrari||52||+65.5 secs||12||6|
|8||9||Nick Heidfeld||Renault||52||+75.5 secs||16||4|
|9||7||Michael Schumacher||Mercedes||52||+77.9 secs||13||2|
|10||19||Jaime Alguersuari||STR-Ferrari||52||+79.1 secs||18||1|
|11||14||Adrian Sutil||Force India-Mercedes||52||+79.7 secs||11|
|12||10||Vitaly Petrov||Renault||52||+80.6 secs||14|
|13||11||Rubens Barrichello||Williams-Cosworth||51||+1 Lap||15|
|14||12||Pastor Maldonado||Williams-Cosworth||51||+1 Lap||7|
|15||15||Paul di Resta||Force India-Mercedes||51||+1 Lap||6|
|16||24||Timo Glock||Virgin-Cosworth||50||+2 Laps||20|
|17||25||Jerome d'Ambrosio||Virgin-Cosworth||50||+2 Laps||22|
|18||23||Vitantonio Liuzzi||HRT-Cosworth||50||+2 Laps||23|
|19||22||Daniel Ricciardo||HRT-Cosworth||49||+3 Laps||24|
|Ret||4||Jenson Button||McLaren-Mercedes||39||Wheel nut||5|
|Ret||18||Sebastien Buemi||STR-Ferrari||25||Accident damage||19|
|Ret||16||Kamui Kobayashi||Sauber-Ferrari||23||Oil leak||8|
|Ret||21||Jarno Trulli||Lotus-Renault||10||Oil leak||21|
Hamilton's bumming out, crew told him at about lap 40 of 52 that he didn't have enough fuel to finish the race.
Racing incident on the final turn of the final lap (between Hamilton & Massa).
Fernando Alonso has won Ferraris first race of 2011 by triumphing in Sundays British Grand Prix at Silverstone. After suffering a pit-stop problem, Sebastian Vettel finished second as Red Bull team-mate Mark Webber was instructed to stay behind. In fourth, McLarens Lewis Hamilton narrowly defended from Felipe Massa at the finish as Jenson Button retired due to a lost wheel nut.
To no great surprise of drivers or spectators, the weather looked to play the greatest role prior to the start of the race. As the cars made their ways from pit lane to grid, it was discovered that the start/finish area was relatively dry whereas the far side of the circuit contained much standing water. This prompted the field to fit Intermediate Pirelli tyres as the race started from the new International Pits Straight for the first time.
With Webber suffering some wheel spin, it was Vettel who blasted ahead of the pack en route to Abbey. Behind, Alonso challenged Webber as Hamilton shot from tenth to seventh, then seizing sixth from compatriot Paul di Restas Force India on the drag to Stowe. It was a miserable day for Lotus, though, with Heikki Kovalainen retiring on only the second tour after losing fourth gear; several laps later, team-mate Jarno Trulli was also out of action.
As Vettel extended his leading advantage to some three and a half seconds, looking to repeat his Silverstone victory of 2009, Hamilton proceeded to challenge the Ferrari of Felipe Massa for fifth but twice ran wide and lost ground at Brooklands. At the same part of track on Lap 9, Michael Schumachers Mercedes hit the Sauber of Kamui Kobayashi, resulting in a stop/go penalty for the seven-time World Champion. The Japanese who had been pushed into a spin and lost two positions - soon retired from the race as his engine overheated, but only after more contact in the pit lane with Pastor Maldonados Williams.
Having rejoined in the lead after his first stop, it was Vettels Lap 27 pit lane visit which brought trouble, as the Germans left-rear wheel was not fitted quickly enough. With the Red Bull left standing, this left Alonso free to sail past before posting a string of rapid laps which took the lead up to 20 seconds at its peak. Further back, after jumping Hamilton at the third and final round of stops, Vettel began to fall into the clutches of Webber in the closing stages, with the Australian being told to hold position on the final two laps in a bid to avoid a collision such as that in Turkey last year. Although the latter refused to accept the request, there was no change of places.
There was a similar dual between Hamilton and Massa, with the Brazilian passing the Englishman around the outside of Vale on the final lap, only for the 2008 winner to retake the place as the Ferrari driver came close to losing control; the pair eventually crossed the finish line in fourth and fifth slots, separated by less than a tenth of a second.
The day proved frustrating for home favourites McLaren, though. Not only did Hamilton nurse his car to the chequered flag in order to save fuel, which only aided Webbers pass for third on Lap 46, but Jenson Buttons chances of a first home podium finish evaporated on Lap 40, stopping in the pit lane exit as his right-front wheel came loose with no wheel nut attached this non-finish drops the 2009 Champion from second to fifth in the Drivers Championship.
It was a similarly difficult day for Scotlands Paul di Resta. After starting from a superb sixth place for Force India, the DTM title holder was left waiting in the pits after his team almost fitted the tyres of team-mate Adrian Sutil. The West Lothian man then damaged his front wing after contact with Toro Rossos Sébastien Buemi, who stopped at Chapel curve with a punctured left-rear tyre.
In fifth, 2010 rostrum finisher Nico Rosbergs race included a pass on Pastor Maldonado overtaking a car around the outside of Brooklands for the second consecutive year on his way to sixth place ahead of Saubers Sergio Pérez (who came back from a pre-race off and broken front wing) and Renaults Nick Heidfeld. As Schumacher recovered from his penalty for ninth, Jaime Alguersuari picked up a points result for the third consecutive race. At the back, Hispania debutant Daniel Ricciardo endured a tough day to finish a lap behind team-mate Vitantonio Liuzzi.
Fernando Alonsos 27th career victory is his second at Silverstone, where he first won for Renault in 2006. The figure moves the Spaniard to joint fifth in the sports records with triple Champion Jackie Stewart and up to third in the current 2011 standings.
Vettel sets fastest time on Top Gear
Although he may not have won the British Grand Prix, Sebastian Vettel can leave England happy after beating a selection of fellow Formula 1 personalities on Top Gears Star in a Reasonably Priced Car. Having driven his best lap on Wednesday, the episode was aired by the BBC on Sunday night.
On the evening after last years British Grand Prix, it was Williams Rubens Barrichello who proudly Beat the Stig and later designed several t-shirts to emphasise the fact. Tonight, it was the World Champions turn to step into the Suzuki Liana.
Following the customary chat with presenter Jeremy Clarkson, Vettels lap time was revealed as 1:44.0 (three tenths quicker than Barrichello), much to the delight of the German who also delivered a Birmingham accent.
You got way better chicks than we do on the Nascar thread, LOL.
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