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To: jwalsh07
>>Everything "dissipates upon exposure to air" and yeat levels of chloroform in that trunk were about oreders of magnitude higher than normal. No chlorine or bleach in the trunk.<<

Impossible for chloroform to stay present for months and months in an area. They didn’t even do tests on the garbage that I can find. How can you say there was no substance containing chlorine.?

>>You mean like the moron who claimed the duct tape was put on later but in fact the duct tape was holding the mandible to the skull when the kid was found?<<

You evidently didn’t see the interview Greta had with the prosecutor who admitted that the tape could have moved given the high water, violent weather and animal invasion. If the prosecutor himself admits that it’s likely even they had reasonable doubt about the time the tape was put on and where it was put.

46 posted on 07/10/2011 11:14:16 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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Several witnesses have testified that in the summer of 2008 Casey Anthony’s car contained a strong odor that resembled the stench of a decomposing body.

This is where the distinction between trash and garbage becomes crucial. Defense lawyers say the stench in Anthony’s car was a result of her mistakenly leaving that plastic bag of “garbage” in her car trunk for several days in Florida’s hot summer sun.

Prosecutors counter that the stench is the lingering evidence of the mother’s crime against her daughter. A plastic bag of “trash” is incapable of producing such a strong and distinctive smell, they say.

The issue is further complicated by the fact that investigators found maggots and other insect activity on a wad of paper towels in the white plastic bag. Prosecutors have suggested that the paper towels may have been used to clean up fluid that had flowed from Caylee’s decomposing body while it was still in the car trunk.

Dr. Haskell was asked a hypothetical question that directly tracks the state’s theory in the case. If the body of a young child was stored in the trunk of a car for some time and then moved, would that fit with the insect activity he had found?

He said based on the type of insects he’d found in the paper towels he estimated the body would have been in the car trunk three to five days.

On cross-examination, Defense Attorney Jose Baez challenged Haskell’s assumption that whatever was on the paper towels that attracted the insects must have come from human decomposition. Wouldn’t left-overs from a restaurant forgotten in a hot car attract the same flies, Mr. Baez asked.

Not that quantity, Haskell said.

That’s when Assistant State Attorney Jeffrey Ashton asked Haskell the difference between trash and garbage.

“To my thinking garbage is primarily decomposing organic material,” he said, “versus trash which is any inorganic stuff you are throwing out.”

Haskell said the insects he studies are searching for decomposing organic material, both animal and plant, to “colonize and try to raise their kids in it.”

He said the white plastic bag contained trash – a collection of inorganic materials that were not decomposing.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2011/0612/Casey-Anthony-murder-trial-focuses-on-trash-versus-garbage/(page)/2


48 posted on 07/10/2011 1:17:45 PM PDT by kcvl
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Orange County Deputy Jason Forgey first explained how dogs are trained to detect human decomposition, and then what happened when his K-9, Gerus, got involved in the Anthony case.

Defense attorney Jose Baez tried to block jurors from seeing certain evidence about Forgey and Gerus, but Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry allowed the state to admit the items, saying that the jury has to decide if police dogs are reliable.

Forgey told jurors that on July 17, 2008 — two days after Caylee’s grandmother reported her missing — Gerus alerted to the trunk of the car after it was taken to the Sheriff’s Office.

The deputy also noted that the smell of death, which he is familiar with, was obvious from Anthony’s car.

“I smelled it. Clear as day,” he said.

Forgey also said Gerus alerted once to a spot near Caylee’s playhouse in her family’s backyard, but after investigators scraped the ground and the dog was sent out to the location a second time, he did not alert.

FBI examiner testifies about chloroform

Prosecutors also called Dr. Michael Rickenbach, a forensic chemist examiner with the FBI, who told jurors he was surprised that residue of chloroform was detected on fabric from a spare tire cover taken from the trunk.

Rickenbach also said a chemical consistent with chloroform was found on fabric from the left and right sides of the trunk liner.

Chloroform can be deadly if inhaled, and investigators said someone at the Anthony’s home searched the Internet for the term on the family computer.

Rickenbach said chloroform is a volatile substance that doesn’t stay around long. He told prosecutor Jeff Ashton he would have expected the chloroform to dissipate by the time the fabric was tested.

“I was surprised to even get any results for chloroform,” he said.

Rickenbach also told Ashton he detected an odor when he opened the can containing the fabric from the spare tire cover.

Vass and fellow scientists at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee found that while not conclusive, nearly all the compounds present in early human decomposition were detected in the trunk of her vehicle.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-06-07/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-day-12-20110607_1_anthony-case-chloroform-casey-anthony


49 posted on 07/10/2011 1:21:00 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: CynicalBear
Impossible for chloroform to stay present for months and months in an area.

First of all it wasn't "months and months" from the time Casey disposed of her baby and samples were taken from the trunk. Secondly, both prosecution scientist and defense scientist found chloroform in the trunk. Prosectors witness found it in quantities 10,000 times normal levels. Defense's witness says it was in smaller quantities but admits prosecutions witness methodology is better than what he used.

But what's the point you are arguing? The defense attorney stated in court that the body was disposed of by George who was helping 'somebody'. Somebody of course is Casey.

The body was undoubtedly in that trunk and the prosecutors scientist explained that the trash contained no organics. So where'd the chloroform come from and why did they put the baby in a garbage back and wrap duct tape somewhere on her head?

Is Baez lying?

55 posted on 07/10/2011 4:09:08 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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