Skip to comments.1MW eCat to Self Sustain? (E-Cat news roundup)
Posted on 07/20/2011 7:32:01 AM PDT by Liberty1970
In a bit of a bombshell moment, an apparent casual answer to a question about a photo on evworld, we learn from Andrea Rossi that advances in safety and control may lead to the 1MW plant being run in self-sustain mode. While any such advance would be an exciting development, it does not speak to the relevant realities of safety certificates and testing by the appropriate authorities. Unless this has been going on for some time and it is only the release of information that is new.
Question and answer follow:
Dear Andrea Rossi, please have a look to the picture at the following link: http://www.evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=2004 It is you, Stemmenos and Focardi conducing tests on the e-cat. The set-up looks quite different from what we have seen on previous tests pictures, im refering specifically to those 4 red devices on the left. There have been speculations on the internet that those devices may be e-cats in production form but i think they are just peristaltic pumps, am i right? Can i ask you what kind of test where you performing when the picture was taken? Thanks you in advance for you patience. Warm Regards, AC
Andrea Rossi July 19th, 2011 at 7:57 AM Dear Alessandro Casali: This photo has been taken during the stress test of a sery of E-Cats a couple of weeks ago, together with the Greek Scientist Christos Stremmenos. They are some of the E-Cats that will compound the 1 MW plant. In that phase the E-Cats were working making steam WITHOUT energy input. This is why you see us so focused (me and Stremmenos). The 1 MW plant, probably will work mostly without energy input, I suppose, because we are resolving the safety issues connected. The 4 red spots are pumps, the E-Cat clusters are hidden. The three characters in the photo are Prof. Sergio Focardi , Prof. Christos Stremmenos and me. Warm Regards, A.R.
***Also in the news at the same site:
Defkalion Green Technologies Interview July 19, 2011 | Author: admin
XanthiPress (a newspaper local to the region in Greece where Defkalion Green Technologies will run their first three factories) interviewed the President of the company, Alekos Xanthoulis
The reporter said that it was initially difficult to get Defkalion to talk but that since the company themselves gave an impressive view of how important the technology is and for the country, it was also important for them to answer questions from the people. This might give the impression that they were trying to hide something, hinting at a tone where locals begin to fear there may be danger in their backyard.
The report clearly states that Mr Xanthoulis said there will be a public demonstration of the first Hyperion product producing 35KW per hour (sic) in the end of September. Is this a press error or another sign that Defkalion is operating with a great deal of autonomy and running fast?
Mr Xanthoulis adds that they have 12 scientists working now and expect the factory to be operating in October (probably meaning that gearing up for manufacturing starts then rather than shipping products).
Eventually, 3 factories will work together producing Hyperions and a separate facility will perform R&D the total employing between 300 to 350 staff.
A curious note is sounded that the patent will be sealed for 9 years. With links to Greek government officials you can imagine how this might be but I would be surprised if that would fly elsewhere. Published anywhere, this fact would become redundant. The whole point of a patent is to protect the inventor while publishing details to encourage further innovation
Already the rumours have started about the possible dangers. Mr Xanthoulis speaks about false reports that the factory is making nuclear bombs or about it being inherently dangerous. Those commenting on the newspapers site talk about massive dumping of nuclear waste while others say that science has not solved the fusion problem yet.
I expect this aspect will gain legs over the coming months and, if denial turns to acceptance, massive political manoeuvring of these underlying fears in an attempt to poison the well.
ETA Andrea Rossi has just answered a question on his blog, confirming that the September demo of a 35KW Hyperion is likely an error. With this in mind, we must be wary of any particular fact in the interview without also assuming that it is all wrong.
Here is ARs response:
Dear Carlo: Probably there has been a misunderstanding, no 35 kW reactors will be demonstrated anywhere in public. In October will be put in operation our 1 MW plant. I continue to work on it 16 hours per day, and so far we are prefectly in time. Warm Regards, A.R.
I do not expect to see an e-cat car within the next decade. An e-cat locomotive engine or ship is much more likely within the next 10 years (assuming, as always, that the thing works). This still would have a huge impact on diesel usage, and thus on diesel prices.
I’m not aware of any eCAT technology being discussed by any current physics journal.
As such, I’m inclined to think that these folk’s have about as much technical ability as a liberal democrat.
Time will tell, and I hope that I’m proved very, very wrong.
The same news blurb that mentioned cars also mentioned ships, so you may be right about the initial focus.
I should have mentioned/repeated that Rossi himself denied the September report, but I keep hoping that public pressure pushes them to make a public demonstration sooner than later. I don’t suppose those of us in the cheap seats have much leverage though, in asking for such consideration.
This is an area where I hope to be very, very wrong but this has the sound and smell of all of the shams since the Dean drive. Please let me be wrong.
Hmm ~ I thought we had all agreed that the reason for this is physics journals won’t publish anything about LENR ~ which is why you don’t see anything.
The manufacturer is not going to invest a fortune in new plants for a hoax.
I think this is for real. Time will tell. We just have to wait. I'll bet that it won't be very long.
That's pretty basic stuff ~ just cut, weld, snag, grind, hook in ~ you can cut an adaptive bracket for anything to anything in almost nothing.
Now, as far as major manufacturers doing anything? They'll never get in on it. Due to the Great World Wide Obama Recession labor at custom shops is too cheap, so everything is going to be custom for quite some time.
The link leads back to this FR post. Where is the link to the original article?
It should work.
We did change it to go directly to the article now though.
Then we need to have an electric drivetrain. Fortunately, everything learned from electric cars and hybrid vehicles the last few years will be applicable to the E-cat, so this part should be relatively easy for all the automakers who have hybrid/electric cars on the market. (The ones that don't will get hammered and may be headed for bankruptcy.)
The key is the heat to electric conversion. I think it can be done, but I don't think there is anything off-the-shelf that can be used. I'm not well-informed on that, however.
So we are supposed to believe that everyone else: universities, governments, corporations are building their own versions of this in total secrecy?
1. There’s no there there.
2. The above enitites are real good at keeping secrets.
3. There is so much skepticism that the above enitites are holding back, and reading threads like these.
I vote for 1.
They have made deals with car companies in the R&D sector in order to research the application of the e-cat in cars, also the same applies for ships. He also said that they made a deal with a very big company , but they will not announce that yet.
I don’t understand your post. The E-cat is a proprietary product developed by Rossi and being commercialized by Defkalion (and Leonardo Corp., etc.) Given that they are the only ones who know how to build one, why do you make mention of other organizations building anything?
Just get the power units going and the torque converters will pop up like dandelions in the spring.
It works properly now.
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