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Chain-reaction rescue killed three at Yosemite
L A Times ^ | 07/20/2011

Posted on 07/20/2011 12:40:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

Edited on 07/20/2011 12:53:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Several people in a hiking group at Yosemite that included three who were swept away and presumed dead had climbed over a barricade and were in the water about 25 feet from the edge of a waterfall, standing, playing and taking photographs, witnesses told Yosemite rangers.


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KEYWORDS: vernalfalls; yosemite
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No Comment. Actually, I have comments. I do.

But I'll use some restraint and just leave the obvious unspoken.

1 posted on 07/20/2011 12:40:36 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

>>Vernal Falls is marked with warning signs and barricaded off with a metal-bar guardrail that “takes some effort” to climb over, Gediman said.<<

Res ipsa loquater... En Darwinus, Darwinactus...


2 posted on 07/20/2011 12:43:39 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Climbing over a guardrail and warning sign so you can fall to your death must at least merit an honorable mention in the Darwin Awards.


3 posted on 07/20/2011 12:44:58 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: freedumb2003

Modesto -2, Turlock -1.


4 posted on 07/20/2011 12:45:18 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Responsibility2nd

Were these their real names or their DUmmie usernames?


5 posted on 07/20/2011 12:45:18 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: Responsibility2nd
The victims were not related...

I beg to differ.

6 posted on 07/20/2011 12:46:39 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: colorado tanker

Well, clearly the railings were too low and the signs were too few and too small. Welcome to court.


7 posted on 07/20/2011 12:47:26 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Responsibility2nd

Vernal Falls.......................

8 posted on 07/20/2011 12:47:35 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Um, the doctor said your gonna die. Moment.


9 posted on 07/20/2011 12:48:34 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’ve hiked to this spot. There is not a guardrail extending across the whole falls nor preventing you from going in the water. The story is inaccurate.


10 posted on 07/20/2011 12:48:41 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Responsibility2nd

I lived in Hawaii many years ago. While I was there 6 teenage friends went to a waterfall for a hike & a swim. There’d been lots of rain, & the fall was really strong. One person swam too close & got pulled under. One after another, the friends went in after each other. The last guy had the sense not try. Very sad...


11 posted on 07/20/2011 12:49:23 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: colorado tanker

The law of natural selection at work.


12 posted on 07/20/2011 12:49:33 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: freedumb2003; colorado tanker

FROM WIKI:

Ten people have died in the last decade by entering the water above Vernal Falls, including the Silver Apron and Emerald Pool. In fact, one person died in May 2007 after hopping from rock to rock around the falls. Strong undercurrents exist that may not be visible from the surface. Clearly, swimming above a waterfall can carry with it a great deal of risk, and it is against the park rules; nevertheless, tourists have been known to be swept over the Yosemite Valley’s waterfalls to their deaths.[6]


13 posted on 07/20/2011 12:49:33 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Red Badger

“Vernal Falls”

As does, Hormiz David, 22, of Modesto; Ninos Yacoub, 27, of Turlock; and Ramina Badal, 21, of Modesto.


14 posted on 07/20/2011 12:50:04 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (As long as the MSM covers for Obama, he will be above the law)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Amazing how fast a fun day can go bad. It must have been a horrible sight for the other hikers to see the three go over.


15 posted on 07/20/2011 12:50:56 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I wonder who went first?..............


16 posted on 07/20/2011 12:51:02 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Responsibility2nd

One of Slim’s Rules of Survival:

Moving water will always win.


17 posted on 07/20/2011 12:51:40 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Responsibility2nd

O well, their votes will live on . . .


18 posted on 07/20/2011 12:51:51 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Tragic, and it also angers me. It angers me that these fools ignored the warnings. I've been to Yosemite many times and I've seen this time and time again. At the base of Yosemite water falls are a large group of rocks that are off limits. There are signs stating that fatal accidents occur yearly on these rocks. And yet there are people climbing all over these rocks. And I've seen people climbing all over these rocks with their children. That's how stupid and foolish many people are. These people should be arrested and charged with child endangerment. Tragic nonetheless.
19 posted on 07/20/2011 12:52:14 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: AlmaKing

I don’t think they meant ‘across the falls’, just above the falls upstream to warn people who care to read and heed.............


20 posted on 07/20/2011 12:53:01 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Responsibility2nd
they climbed over a barricade

Says it all.

21 posted on 07/20/2011 12:55:15 PM PDT by caww
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To: Responsibility2nd

they dies tried to save someone else. That doesn’t make them stupid, it makes them heroes. Their deaths were more honorable than most. in my judgment.


22 posted on 07/20/2011 12:56:34 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: Red Badger

When you hike to the falls, you climb up the right side of the cliff in the pic you posted and enter the water right there. You can fall literally fall off that cliff next to the falls if you wanted to do so.


23 posted on 07/20/2011 12:57:38 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Responsibility2nd

ADIOS ESTUPIDOS!!


24 posted on 07/20/2011 12:58:07 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: caww
they climbed over a barricade

Back when I was a good deal younger and even more stupid, I climbed over a barricade in Zion NP and managed to get injured.

Lucky enough to only dislocate my shoulder, but walking out six miles and then being driven 40 miles to hospital with dislocated shoulder was not a pleasant experience.

Darwin Award contender, I guess.

25 posted on 07/20/2011 12:58:15 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Responsibility2nd

Famous Last Words:

“Should have brought the Gatlings..”

“Oh chit..”

and

“Hold my beer and watch this..”


26 posted on 07/20/2011 1:00:00 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: AlmaKing
preventing you from going in the water

I already have all the prevention I need between my ears to prevent me from standing 25 feet upstream of a large water fall.

Larger guardrails and more signs would only delay, not prevent the eventual early demise of people willing to do this.

27 posted on 07/20/2011 1:00:48 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: RC one

I disagree. There are no heroes in this story.


28 posted on 07/20/2011 1:02:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Vernal Falls, and it’s upstream companion, Nevada Falls, are utterly fearsome, especially at times of heavy runoff as I presume they are experiencing now from the unusually large Sierra snow pack of this past winter.

I’m sorry a similar fear wasn’t inspired in at least that one member of the group who’s recklessness led to his death and that of his companions.


29 posted on 07/20/2011 1:04:53 PM PDT by KamperKen
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To: AlmaKing

The story doesn’t say that. It just says they climbed a guardrail to reach the water.(25 ft from the edge of the falls no less)

Here is a picture of the guardrail they are referring to:

http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/Waterfalls/ClarksPointVernalFallsL.JPG

The story is accurate.


30 posted on 07/20/2011 1:05:17 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: Sherman Logan

When my family went to places with water falls my mother was especially forceful about where we could and could not go. We had enough fear of her wrath to listen let me tell you.

These guys were in their twenties...not kids... Daring and foolish for having believed they were invinceable. Three lifes snuffed out in seconds. A tragedy no doubt...but oh it could have been different.


31 posted on 07/20/2011 1:06:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: Responsibility2nd
The hikers on the Mist Trail can be some of the most inexperienced and unprepared out there. I've seen people try to make the Half Dome hike in sandals with their only other equipment being a bottle of water. The below pic is not of me, but it shows the rail isn't that tough to hop.


32 posted on 07/20/2011 1:06:15 PM PDT by socal_parrot (I hate to say I told you so, but...)
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To: free me

Just to the right of the guardrail in that pic, there is no guardrail. I say it’s still not accurate. There’s no guardrail on the climb up the cliff either.


33 posted on 07/20/2011 1:09:22 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: free me

From the article....

“Vernal Falls is marked with warning signs and barricaded off with a metal-bar guardrail that “takes some effort” to climb over, Gediman said.”

The guardrail in that picture would take no effort at all to climb over. But regardless.... That water scares me just looking at it.

Anyone who would climb into that is just asking for it.


34 posted on 07/20/2011 1:09:51 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: socal_parrot

I’ve hiked many 14ers in tennis shoes. So what?


35 posted on 07/20/2011 1:11:52 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Responsibility2nd

Three Darwins.

Now, if only the search teams don’t get injured or worse.


36 posted on 07/20/2011 1:12:51 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Red Badger
I wonder who went first?..............

Geronimoooooooooooooooooo..............

37 posted on 07/20/2011 1:13:18 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Financial Repression.......it answers a lot of questions.....read about it on FinancialSense.com.)
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To: thackney

Even the most ‘experienced’ hikers, climbers, explorers still die on easy hikes, common sense or not. I guess common sense should tell you to stay home, but then you’ll die of a heart attack, stroke, cancer, whatever.


38 posted on 07/20/2011 1:13:58 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Responsibility2nd
A similar incident:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEbFTz2WwIs&feature=player_embedded


39 posted on 07/20/2011 1:14:18 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; AlmaKing

Maybe you two are right. Calling it a “barricade” is a reach.
At least going by the picture.

One of these days I’ll get out west and hike it myself.


40 posted on 07/20/2011 1:14:24 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: free me; AlmaKing
AlmaKing ought to be saying about now "Oh, THAT guardrail" ~ hey, that ain't no thang. I mean out there where the water goes down."

Then we can laugh and laugh and laugh.

41 posted on 07/20/2011 1:15:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: AlmaKing

Good for you!


42 posted on 07/20/2011 1:15:52 PM PDT by socal_parrot (I hate to say I told you so, but...)
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To: AlmaKing

Life is fatal. It just tends to be shorter for the stupid.


43 posted on 07/20/2011 1:16:45 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Maybe the state should have put up a fence or something...

Oh, wait...

44 posted on 07/20/2011 1:17:16 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: AlmaKing
Just to the right of the guardrail in that pic, there is no guardrail.

That guardrail extends quite a ways back. One would have to clearly be on the wrong side of it to approach withing 25 ft of the falls.

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
-Douglas Adams

45 posted on 07/20/2011 1:24:02 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: AlmaKing

I do not wish to do so.
I’ll take your word for it.............;^)


46 posted on 07/20/2011 1:27:47 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: truthguy

Reminds me of the entrance to the cave at Silver Springs, FL: it’s a cavern dive that leads to a cave, and there’s a sign that says, “This is a cave in which 18 divers have died. Do not enter without proper equipment”. When I was there, the 18 was marked out in nail polish and “19” was painted next to it.

Chilling - cured me of any desire to go in.

Colonel, USAFR


47 posted on 07/20/2011 1:30:09 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: thackney

3..2..1 before the first lawsuit is filed....wanna bet?


48 posted on 07/20/2011 1:30:48 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the earth..it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: thackney

Holy Crap !
That first step is a doosey.
I am sorry , you would have to be a complete idiot to climb over that fence.

God rest their soul.


49 posted on 07/20/2011 1:40:21 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Responsibility2nd

Rail or no rail, they were IN the water (25 ft from the edge), laughing, playing, taking photos, etc.

There is NO warning against that.


50 posted on 07/20/2011 1:44:06 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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