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Scientists warn of 'Planet of the Apes' scenario
The Telegraph ^ | 7/22/11

Posted on 07/22/2011 3:36:07 AM PDT by markomalley

Action is needed now to prevent nightmarish "Planet Of The Apes" science ever turning from fiction to fact, according to a group of eminent experts.

Their report calls for a new rules to supervise sensitive research that involves humanising animals.

One area of concern is "Category Three" experiments which may raise "very strong ethical concerns" and should be banned.

An example given is the creation of primates with distinctly human characteristics, such as speech.

Exactly the same scenario is portrayed in the new movie Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, in which scientists searching for an Alzheimer's cure create a new breed of ape with human-like intelligence.

The report also acknowledges the "Frankenstein fear" that humanising animals might lead to the creation of "monsters".

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: chimaeras; cryptobiology; cryptobotany; cryptozoology; planetape

1 posted on 07/22/2011 3:36:09 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I think it’s a legitimate concern, because there are bioengineers who want to do things without any concern for the consequences of their actions.


2 posted on 07/22/2011 3:38:18 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: markomalley

The scientist is the used car salesmen of the 21 century.


3 posted on 07/22/2011 3:38:51 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: markomalley
Exactly the same scenario is portrayed in the new movie Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes

Scientists have become whores.

They will promote "science" to advertise your new movie, if you ask politely.
They will pretend that Global Warming is real, if you give them grants.
They will swear that DDT is dangerous, if such a claim promotes a useful agenda.

4 posted on 07/22/2011 3:42:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Scientists have become whores.

At first, they were just starved for attention...but the real killer is probably hubris. At some point they will probably demand obeisance.

yes, I think your analogy is apt.

5 posted on 07/22/2011 3:47:35 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("America will cease to be great when America ceases to be good." -- Welcome to deToqueville.)
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To: markomalley

I’m a lot more concerned about the way animal rights activists humanize animals.


6 posted on 07/22/2011 3:48:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: markomalley

Democrat does not harm democrat... is Planet of the Apes mentality..


7 posted on 07/22/2011 3:49:10 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: markomalley

Wow, I thought competing against illegals was something to worries about......


8 posted on 07/22/2011 3:50:56 AM PDT by Recon Dad (“I never speak ill of dead people or live judges.” Edwin Edwards)
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To: markomalley

darn! more democratic voters!


9 posted on 07/22/2011 3:56:39 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: markomalley
Unless these experiments are taking place in Detroit, I think were safe for awhile...
10 posted on 07/22/2011 4:00:35 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: markomalley

Some climate scientists claim that the nightmare scenario in The Day After Tomorrow is real.

Some computer scientists claim that the nightmare scenario in The Terminator and The Matrix is real.

Some biological scientists claim that the nightmare scenario in The Planet of the Apes is real.

I think the real problem here is scientists.


11 posted on 07/22/2011 4:05:58 AM PDT by Echo4C (We have it in our power to begin the world over again. --Thomas Paine)
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To: markomalley

There is now a couple billion of these creatures, and science had nothing to do with it...They are called...

ISLAMIC MUSLIMS!


12 posted on 07/22/2011 4:21:02 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: markomalley; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

SOBERING TO THE MAX.


13 posted on 07/22/2011 4:22:03 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Echo4C

> Some climate scientists claim that the nightmare scenario in The Day After Tomorrow is real.
> Some computer scientists claim that the nightmare scenario in The Terminator and The Matrix is real.
> Some biological scientists claim that the nightmare scenario in The Planet of the Apes is real.
> I think the real problem here is scientists.

The problem here is not scientists, but idiots who think that they are scientists, but who actually have only a little knowledge, an over-active imagination and a feeling of superiority.


15 posted on 07/22/2011 4:34:44 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (2012 is the opportunity to get rid of Obama and his Empire of Lies.)
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To: markomalley

This article is not about science, it is about marketing. So some scientist comes out with a warning against “category three” experiments just in time for the new planet of the ape’s movie. How convenient, for the producers of the movie that is.


16 posted on 07/22/2011 4:49:19 AM PDT by shoff (Cuomo is going to change the NY state motto from Excelsior to elixir (cause we bought it)
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To: markomalley

I can’t help but think of all those Greek animal-man creatures, and that advanced, but destroyed civilization Atlantis.

Just mthology though, right...


17 posted on 07/22/2011 4:53:18 AM PDT by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: shoff

Bingo. And people are stupid enought to eat it up. Plane of the Apes, indeed.


18 posted on 07/22/2011 4:56:55 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: markomalley
AK-47 Ape
19 posted on 07/22/2011 4:59:39 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: markomalley
IMHO, modern man is a far greater concern.
20 posted on 07/22/2011 5:06:04 AM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: markomalley
Decades ago some geniuses announced that they intended to inject human brain cells into rats.

Come to think of it--maybe it was rat brain cells into humans. You don't think... No. It couldn't be.

Could it?

21 posted on 07/22/2011 5:08:42 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Tea Party: La Resistance)
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To: markomalley
The fear is that if you start putting very large numbers of human brain cells into the brains of primates ...

Why stop at brain cells? Why stop at primates?


22 posted on 07/22/2011 5:22:03 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: markomalley
It's already common for human DNA to be transplanted into non-human cells for pharmaceutical purposes.

Is an organism with 1% human DNA human? 50%? 90%? If they transplant 100% human DNA into a gorilla egg cell, implant it into a female gorilla, and she gives birth, is the offspring a gorilla that looks remarkably human, or a human who has used a gorilla as a host mother?

Guaranteed, researchers will push the limits.

23 posted on 07/22/2011 5:32:55 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: markomalley

Recommend the late, GREAT Michael Crichton’s “NEXT”.

Very interesting take on cross-species experimentation and other genomic twists.

I don’t think “genomic” is a word (yet), but it sounds hell kewl.


24 posted on 07/22/2011 5:35:29 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SampleMan

“Greek animal-man creatures”

Just what we need....another Minotaur!


25 posted on 07/22/2011 5:37:39 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam. Freedom for mankind.")
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To: markomalley

I still want a mini giraffe.


26 posted on 07/22/2011 5:38:36 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: markomalley

I wanna see the new movie, but I know that I’m gonna sit there thinking, “I’ve got a dozens of guns and tens of thousands of rounds of ammo at home. Meh.”


27 posted on 07/22/2011 5:40:05 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: markomalley

I’m more worried that the planet is becoming the society depicted in the movie Idiocracy.


28 posted on 07/22/2011 5:40:08 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: PoloSec

Nah - The article is talking about animals with human-like intelligence.


29 posted on 07/22/2011 5:40:42 AM PDT by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Scientists have become whores.

They will promote “science” to advertise your new movie, if you ask politely.
They will pretend that Global Warming is real, if you give them grants.
They will swear that DDT is dangerous, if such a claim promotes a useful agenda


Yup. I have no doubt that some “scientists” are now being used to promote movies. Its a new low. I saw the trailer for the movie and, while interesting, its ridiculous to think the premise is anything but SciFi. That being said, it is in the realm of possibility for someone to bioengineer a deadly virus, but that’s been “done” many times in terms of books & movies.


30 posted on 07/22/2011 5:42:07 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Echo4C
Sounds like the premise of Next by Michael Crichton.

Side complaint: The Day After Tomorrow had so many problems with physics I couldn't take the premise seriously - it was like the above-the-surface version of The Core: fun to watch with the volume off.

31 posted on 07/22/2011 5:44:34 AM PDT by wizzardude
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To: markomalley
Exactly the same scenario is portrayed in the new movie Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, in which scientists searching for an Alzheimer's cure create a new breed of ape with human-like intelligence.

Didn't they do the same thing in "Deep Blue Sea?"
32 posted on 07/22/2011 5:50:25 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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33 posted on 07/22/2011 5:53:01 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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To: markomalley

Hmmmmmm? Are those those Nazi Scientists still alive out there? The quest for the Ubersoldier is still in the works? Sounds like a Post WW II Tabloid report.


34 posted on 07/22/2011 6:19:23 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Liberals fight with smear, Conservatives fight with truth. Palin & West team are 2012's dream)
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To: markomalley

Lets just talk numbers. There are only 350,000 apes in the world.

They couldn’t take over France.


35 posted on 07/22/2011 6:24:26 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (Proper aim of giving is to put the recipient in a state where he no longer needs it. C.S. Lewis)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I know right?

If this situation really happened, the apes would easily take over the Northeast and hippieville but the instant they crossed over into the south and “redneck” land, it would be open season on their a****.

They’d last 2 days before they were shot and stuffed for trophies. Kinda like the old joke of “If you want to end the terrorism, drop a bunch of rednecks in Iraq, declare open season on all terrorists with no ROE, and sit back and enjoy the show”

I know some pretty “country” boys and they’d welcome the chance to hunt some apes like that. It’d be like Christmas!


36 posted on 07/22/2011 7:09:09 AM PDT by Black_Shark
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To: wordsofearnest

Oh yes, they could. It’s France.

You meant to say they couldn’t take over the South or Midwest didn’t you? ;)


37 posted on 07/22/2011 7:10:21 AM PDT by Black_Shark
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To: FreedomPoster
I still want a mini giraffe

We have a new model to be unveiled next month.


38 posted on 07/22/2011 9:07:01 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: markomalley

I’m quite sure I have seen some of those hybridized monsters at inner-city Walmarts already.


39 posted on 07/22/2011 11:37:53 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Jonty30

Western ethics and personal morals which governed these extremes within professional men and women, have been cleansed from our culture.

Situational ethics would say that if the creation of human hybrids advances a group’s science and/or profit motives, it is good. The consequences on the society around them is of no concern to them.

The same thing happened to the bankster industry.


40 posted on 07/22/2011 4:59:36 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SJSAMPLE

IIRC the novel Jurassic Park really went into the danger and moral bankruptcy of genetic mutation by scientists.


41 posted on 08/04/2011 6:02:54 PM PDT by chargers fan
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