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LNG tank valve won't release gas. Help.
7/24/2011 | self

Posted on 07/24/2011 3:23:13 PM PDT by VA Voter

I filled a 20lb LNG tank this afternoon and now with the valve open it won't release the gas. BBQ ruined.

The guy where I got the gas says the valve is stuck or broken closed inside.

Is there anything I can do?


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1 posted on 07/24/2011 3:23:14 PM PDT by VA Voter
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To: VA Voter

You’re gonna need a hammer and a chisel.....


2 posted on 07/24/2011 3:23:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Will a lit match help/


3 posted on 07/24/2011 3:24:39 PM PDT by VA Voter
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To: VA Voter

There is nothing that can’t be fixed through the judicious use of explosives.


4 posted on 07/24/2011 3:24:56 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: VA Voter

Close the valve... beat on it with a hammer, gently... and, try again...

repeat.

If that doesn’t work, you’ve probably got to get a new tank


5 posted on 07/24/2011 3:25:33 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: VA Voter
Is there anything I can do?

Not sure, but have a video camera handy for a Youtube moment, just in case....

6 posted on 07/24/2011 3:26:09 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: VA Voter

Build a large wood fire.

Gently place the tank in the middle.

Quickly back off at least 1/4 mile.

Enjoy the show...


7 posted on 07/24/2011 3:26:18 PM PDT by null and void (Day 914. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: doorgunner69

LOL. :))


8 posted on 07/24/2011 3:26:50 PM PDT by VA Voter
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To: VA Voter

Go get a new tank.....


9 posted on 07/24/2011 3:26:58 PM PDT by 9422WMR (FOBO)
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To: VA Voter

Turn off valve.

Disconnect from barbeque.

Re-connect, making certain fittings are tight and the little rubber gasket is in place.

Open valve slowly.

There is a fuel flow restricter inside the valve which shuts it off if it detects too much flow. You must shut off the valve and remove downstream pressure before it will reset.


10 posted on 07/24/2011 3:28:20 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: VA Voter

Are you sure the tank valve wasn’t opened with the grill burner valve in the open position? If it was the new design will not let much gas flow. If this happened, shut the burner valve off and shut the tank valve. Disconnect the gas line and then reattach the gas line, open the tank valve and light the grill the way you normally would. Never open the tank valve with a burner valve in the open position.


11 posted on 07/24/2011 3:28:41 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: null and void; humblegunner; Eaker

Are you channeling Gunner or Eaker, by any chance?

:)


12 posted on 07/24/2011 3:30:01 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: VA Voter

take it to a Blue Rhino (not Olympia Snowe, the other kind) and trade it in. i think they take old tanks.


13 posted on 07/24/2011 3:31:05 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Salamander; Darksheare

Darksheare.


14 posted on 07/24/2011 3:31:05 PM PDT by null and void (Day 914. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: VA Voter

I’m sure you mean LPG not LNG! If it is liquid natural gas just leave it alone in the sun and in a few minutes say “howdy” to Jesus!


15 posted on 07/24/2011 3:31:39 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: VA Voter

Get the most annoying person you know to try. If will open for them with out a problem making to you look dumb.


16 posted on 07/24/2011 3:31:58 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I am still looking)
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To: VA Voter

Quite often a bbq will act like this if one or more burners is left open when the gas valve is closed.

Try making sure the burners are turned off, connect the LPG and turn the tank valve on but wait five minutes before trying to open the burner valve to light it.

Always turn off all burners prior to closing gas valve to keep this from happening.


17 posted on 07/24/2011 3:32:04 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (The wrong smoke detector might just kill you - http://www.theworldfiresafetyfoundation.org)
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To: Salamander; Eaker

You know that grace before meals at the Eaker house includes the line “Please Lord, let us not have to stop, drop, and roll.”


18 posted on 07/24/2011 3:32:06 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: VA Voter

Turn off the grill valve, if there is one. Turn off the tank valve. Disconnect the tank and reconnect it without much torque. Test for leaks with dish detergent/water mix. Tighten a little if necessary. Try it again.

If that doesn’t work, exchange the tank for another one.


19 posted on 07/24/2011 3:33:59 PM PDT by familyop ("Plan? There ain't no plan!" --Pigkiller, "Beyond Thunderdome")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL = “stop, drop, and roll, Dick, roll.”


21 posted on 07/24/2011 3:35:07 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: null and void; Darksheare

He randomly detonates stuff just fer kicks, too?

Damn.

I run with a dangerous pack.

;D


22 posted on 07/24/2011 3:35:07 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: VA Voter

One of mine did that once.

I had had it filled, connected it to my grill, and I can’t remember why, but I had to disconnect/reconnect it and after that it wouldn’t work.

Took it to get it refilled, connected it again and it worked fine.


23 posted on 07/24/2011 3:35:14 PM PDT by jra
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOLOL!!!!!

[I hear the dogs all wear flack jackets]


24 posted on 07/24/2011 3:36:07 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: VA Voter

bbq ruined?? not possible. Go get some charcoal at least.


25 posted on 07/24/2011 3:36:39 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

My children still salivate any time a smoke alarm goes off.

I had them convinced for years that it was dad’s dinner bell...


26 posted on 07/24/2011 3:37:07 PM PDT by null and void (Day 914. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: Salamander; Eaker; Tijeras_Slim

Nuke the site from orbit.

It’s the only way to be sure.


27 posted on 07/24/2011 3:37:31 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: VA Voter

Take the tank to a wide open field, remove yourself from it by at least a quarter mile, aim at it with a 30-06, gently squeeze trigger and enjoy.


28 posted on 07/24/2011 3:38:18 PM PDT by JEC ((Pray for ALL our troops))
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To: cartoonistx

Yes. LPG not LNG.


29 posted on 07/24/2011 3:38:33 PM PDT by VA Voter
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To: Salamander
He randomly detonates stuff just fer kicks, too?

Not exactly. Stuff just sorta happens around him...

30 posted on 07/24/2011 3:39:17 PM PDT by null and void (Day 914. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: humblegunner

And....there’s the definitive solution, right there, I’ll tell ya what.

[wait? what?]


31 posted on 07/24/2011 3:39:33 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: null and void

Just like that Russian guy with the dogs, Pyrolov. ;)


32 posted on 07/24/2011 3:40:12 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: null and void

Ahhh....I see.

Well, I can sure empathize with that....:)


33 posted on 07/24/2011 3:40:37 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL

Good’un.


34 posted on 07/24/2011 3:41:20 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: cripplecreek

And someone to hand your Beer to while you say “Watch This!”


35 posted on 07/24/2011 3:42:05 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: VA Voter

Not that it will help you now, but it would be a good idea in the future to have a spare tank handy. I’ve had tanks with bad valves in the past and there’s not much you can do with them at a time like this. I’ve also found that instead of getting your own tank refilled, you use one of those services (available at places like Home Depot or Lowes) where you simply exchange your empty tank for one that’s already been refilled. These companies (like Blue Rhino) will replace faulty valves on tanks turned into them. I haven’t had any problems of this sort since I made the switch.


36 posted on 07/24/2011 3:42:51 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: SomeCallMeTim

The regulator on my grill likes to stick. I rap on it a few times, and back in business!


37 posted on 07/24/2011 3:43:32 PM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: VA Voter

May not be your tank. Could be regulator.

Turn everthing off and unhook your tank.

Reattach hose fitting to tank.

Turn on valves on grill, does it work?

If no? Turn the grill valves back off, and gently (gently) tap on the side of the tank valve.

Good luck.


38 posted on 07/24/2011 3:43:35 PM PDT by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Pretty much.


39 posted on 07/24/2011 3:43:44 PM PDT by null and void (Day 914. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: VA Voter

I went through a long process with that problem earlier this year. I concluded it was the STUPID fittings used on grills. There are two types, one with a black plastic ring that screws over the outlet of the tank, the other (all metal) screws inside of the tank. The one with the ring is newer and it caused me the problems, and I’M SURE it was what you used. The black plastic design has an extra valve in it...as mentioned by others.

Anyway, it took some effort, but I converted all of my propane appliances to the inside design and so far, so good. I have no idea why they messed up a perfectly good system.


40 posted on 07/24/2011 3:46:08 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: VA Voter

There should be a bleeder screw on the side of the valve. Open that with a standard screw driver to release the excess pressure in the tank.
Put your cigarette out before trying this.


41 posted on 07/24/2011 3:47:50 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I Stand With Sarah!)
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To: VA Voter

Noted BBQ expert George Goble answers your question here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjPxDOEdsX8


42 posted on 07/24/2011 3:49:24 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: VA Voter

Do you happen to have an old regulator - the ones that take a wrench to install around the garage? If so, install it and see if it works. I keep one of those just to use on tank valves that are stubborn.


44 posted on 07/24/2011 3:50:10 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
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To: VA Voter
What are you doing with liquefied Natural gas in a propane tank (LPG)? Lpg pressure is about 350 psi and LNG is about 3500 PSI!
45 posted on 07/24/2011 3:52:02 PM PDT by mountainlion (AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.)
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To: VA Voter

Is the valve handle moving or not?
If the handle spins call your fire dept and ask about disposal. If its jammed, put it in a chest freezer for an over night. Tap gently when you remove it with a hammer(on the handle straight down) do multiple smacks with increasing force, use a piece of wood in between the handle and the hammer. Try spinning the valve between smacks.

Liquid propane is a liquid, and if water was introduced at the fillup your looking at an ice plug. The colder everything is the brittler they will be.

Make sure if you crack the valve and get a leak you in a place where the tank can be 100 feet plus away from flames and structures. A tarp to throw on top if it leaks might be a good idea


46 posted on 07/24/2011 4:01:05 PM PDT by waynesa98
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To: VA Voter

Probably late to the game, but shoot it asap!


47 posted on 07/24/2011 4:08:13 PM PDT by TBall
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To: null and void

Or do as my buddy and I used to do.... grab the 338 magnum, sit about 300 meters away and shoot it! Great entertainment for the whole family (although not recommended).


48 posted on 07/24/2011 4:08:48 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: VA Voter

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=562268


49 posted on 07/24/2011 4:10:39 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: CurlyDave

Did Microsoft enter the gas BBQ market recently?


50 posted on 07/24/2011 4:14:55 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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