Skip to comments.Fragile Phil Collins helped from awards ceremony half way through
Posted on 07/25/2011 5:47:43 AM PDT by Red Badger
Phil Collins had to be helped out of an awards ceremony after being hit by crippling pains all over his body.
The fragile pop legend was due to present a gong to Ringo Starr but the lingering effects of a spinal injury struck and he was forced to leave, supported by two aides.
And Who guitarist Pete Townshend also joined the list of crock stars as he was spotted wearing two hearing aids to help combat deafness and tinnitus caused by years of loud music.
Former Genesis drummer Collins, 60, chatted to stars including Bob Geldof ahead of presenting Ringo with the Icon Award at the Mojo ceremony in London on Thursday. There he revealed: Im on my last legs. I couldnt come back to music even if I wanted to.
All these aches and pains, cant do it any more. A Mojo spokesman added: Phil was unwell and unfortunately had to go home.
Collins vowed to retire from music last March after a string of illnesses left him weak, lethargic and unable to drum ever again.
His ordeal began with the back injury in 2009 after decades of pounding his kit caused vertebrae to crush his spinal cord.
Collins, who has two young sons Nicholas and Matthew, with third and since divorced wife Orianne Cevey, insisted nothing could tempt him back into music.
He said before the awards ceremony kicked off: I was tired of staying in a different hotel every night when touring.
All those years on the road has taken it out of me. Now I spend all of my days doing nothing, just lying down watching daytime TV and Sky News.
I just about manage to pick my boys up from school. I couldnt come back, Ive lost touch, I dont know Plan Bs music or Lady Gagas. But tonight Im here for Ringo.
His award is well overdue, and thats why I had to come out tonight.
But pains in his arms, legs, back and other parts of his body meant he couldnt last the distance at the three-hour event. As he was taken home, fears were also raised over Townshends health. Roger Daltry said his bandmate, 66, is almost stone deaf. He added: When we last performed he had to stand right next to the speakers to hear anything.
I dont know what Pete will do. It could mark the end of the band doing live shows.
Townshends problems began in the 60s when Who star Keith Moon blew up his drum kit live on stage and left him deaf in one ear. Decades of standing next to loud amps have also taken their toll.
The star said: I have severe hearing damage. Its manifested itself as tinnitus, ringing in the ears at frequencies that I play guitar. Its painful and frustrating.
Ive no idea what I can do about this. I am unable to perform with in-ear monitors. In fact, the more they increase the more unbearable tinnitus I suffer after shows.
Sad. I grew up listening to Genesis and Phil Collins.
I’ve always loved the man’s voice. It’s very distinct and enjoyable.
Lord, keep this man safe through his trials.
Sad. Didn't know drumming can cause injuries...
Things could be worse, Phil.
Phil Collins put on one of the best concerts I’ve ever attended.
I’m from the 80s, too ;-), and I’ve always enjoyed Phil’s singing. And he could keep rhythm, unlike the drummer in my band (my son) who tends to flake out and start playing something totally different. “What was that beat, Bill? The rest of us were in 4/4 ...”
after decades of pounding his kit caused vertebrae to crush his spinal cord
Does this make much sense?
Is it just me, or is anyone else having trouble with this piece?
I can't help noticing that a lot of big stars who get on stage slurring their words and being totally "out of it" sometimes excuse their behavior by saying "I have to take the pills to deal with the ... with the ... the back pain. Yeah, that's the ticket."
Meanwhile, you have someone like Phil Collins who shows up, does the best he can for Ringo, and is a real trooper. But he actuall does have backpain, and he does not appear to be self-medicating, and has to be helped away because he has a legitimate health problem. I think he's being a real man about this.
I bet the injuries from Repetitive Motion Syndrome are awful!..........
My good friend who is a drummer and also a big fan of Phil Collins says that Phil’s posture behind the drum set was terrible — very slouched and hunched — and he is sure that is what is causing Phil’s physical problems now.
It’s British English...............
Not a fan of Phil...but still sorry to hear that he is ailing.
Knowing his condition and limitations, you would think he would arrive later in the evening to present the award & then leave.
Message to ALL...the word is “trouper” NOT ‘trooper’.
A “kit” is a “drum kit,” which is the same thing as a “drum set.”
Sorry about that. I knew the correct word, but the fingers went wrong.
Try getting a drummer to play 6/4! A good drummer will get it done. A bad drummer will say, like my cousin, “But that’s not a fraction!”
"Sad. Didn't know drumming can cause injuries..."
Neither did I...53 years ago when I did my first on-stage gig. Now I can play better than ever (blues is the best) and I can do a five-set night with no problem.
But, like Collins, I can't load and set-up my drum "kit" without serious help from the bass player.
Having had back trouble myself, you never know when you’ll have a spasm. They can come on unexpectedly and be very debilitating.....
I always liked Genesis , Collins and Gabriel too. Very talented. Age catches up with everyone. Pretty much every musician — including the most talented — reach a point where they don’t “have it” anymore and should hang it up.
It is if you're fighting giant bugs................
We do a song that’s in 3/2. I count it as if it’s a waltz, and the drum goes off on its own and we pretend that’s what we intended all along.
“What do you call a guy who hangs out with three musicians?”
He plays the guitar, too. My husband just said this morning that we should try to feature Bill on guitar in some songs, and we could train another kid to play drum.
It was a foolish decision. Reading the article, his back condition is severe enough that he wasn’t going to go at all. That’s a clue that he couldn’t get thru a 3 hour ceremony, and should have come later.
why does a sickly frail old looking man of 60 have two “young” sons?.......maybe he should have thought about what it will be like to be a grandpa to his sons rather than a father when he had a chance....
Phil Collins—— worth 100 million so he’s set for life. But his health is awful. I saw him in 1982 or 3 when his first album came out. He was explosive and pounding on stage. No horns.... he could not afford to take them on tour
With all the electronic gizmos out there for sale, you don't need the kid..................
he plays the piano too.....
Drummers have terrible backs, and lots of repetitive hand and wrist type injuries from percussion injuries.
Sitting on that little seat while whacking away at things just sets them up for years of later pain. Most people don’t realize that true musicians are like atheletes.
Even singers put a lot of physical effort into singing. Just look at a clip of Ella Fitzgerald singing. Lots of muscle control in the abdomen. Every performance is like a yoga session. That’s one of the reasons older singers can lose their voice - they physically don’t have the strength anymore.
Well, true ... but it makes them feel important, and you can’t bring electronic gizmos to the Folk Society.
True, but not having a drummer to watch would detract from concerts - they tend to put on their own mini-shows...
For Folk music, you don’t need a drummer at all..............For decades, the Grand Ol’ Opry would not allow drums on stage..............
If you think about the "stools" that many drummers use, and the positions their bodies are in while drumming, I suppose I could see how the lower back could be affected.
When you're in your 20's and early 30's, the body can compensate; when you're in your 40's and beyond, you really need to take care of your back. Slumped in a stool night after night doesn't seem that healthy to me.
Imagine if Phil was the full time Genesis drummer, which he hadn't been since 1975, he only played during a few long instrumental stretches on their tours. And on the solo tours, he played some drums, but mostly sang up front, or played keyboards.
You don’t know what medical treatment he is under. Under the care of legitimate pain management, you may not be able to tell what he is taking.
In fact, I’ve noticed patients who don’t take their pain meds often act more “distracted” than ones that do. Once a person is habituated you often can’t tell they are taking anything. Pain is distracting.
And simply because he has to be helped doesn’t mean he’s not on regular meds. There are people out there in such bad shape that they have to be helped even though they are taking regular cocktails.
Pain is a serious problem in our society - I think so much of it comes from all the auto injuries people have throughout their lifetime. They are far more traumatic than people realize. It’s a growing medical field. That, and to get totally off the subject, diabetic endocrinology. That one is going to go off the charts in the next few years.
It would have been something to see Phil and Bill together during the 76 Genesis tour.
The best drummers I've ever seen have minimal kits.
The Folk Society includes all kinds of acoustic music. We do a lot of Latin American music, which requires percussion, and modern bluegrass can use a drum.
Phil could do 9/8 without even breaking a sweat.
Sorry I wan’t clear. My assumption is that Phil isn’t dosing himself up with everything he can grab. I would guess that he is following a prescribed pain management regimen which allows him to function well and helps deal with the pain as best as can be done. It’s the stars that chug bourbon as a self-prescribed pain management program that annoy me. As best I can determine, Phil is not one of those.
Nope, not so far. We used to have a viola, but the girl went away to college.
I knew a lady named Viola, too....................
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