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Government Unemployment Watch: USPS To Close Up To 3,700 Post Offices
Zero hedge ^ | 07/26/2011 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 07/26/2011 8:15:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The problem with bloated central planning is that when austerity hits, the bloat goes away, and millions of government employees suddenly find themselves trying to enter the private sector, realizing they have absolutely no real competitive and marketable skills (more or less like investment bankers and hedge fund managers). And while America has yet to even remotely sniff austerity, the unemployment rate is already set to spike, after the USPS just announced it was preparing to close 3,653 out of its 32,000 total post office sites.

Per UPI: "The U.S. Postal Service is expected to announce a plan to close 3,653 post offices, mostly in small communities, in a cost-cutting measure, officials said. A USPS spokeswoman said the post offices were chosen because they get the "least amount of foot traffic and retail sales," The Wall Street Journal reported Monday." Trust the bureaucrats to try spinning this bad news as good: "They also were selected because there may be local businesses that could provide some postal services to the community, spokeswoman Sue Brennan said."

Well by that logic there are private businesses that cover every aspect of the government's "job" much better, and much more efficiently, up to and including that of the Fed (sorry, that already is private). Does that mean we should outsource every aspect of the bloated centrally planned economy that America has become? Of course the answer is yes, but that just does not jive with the current iteration of kleptofascist socialism.

More:

The list of the closures, amounting to about 11 percent of the USPS' post offices nationwide, will be made public Tuesday by Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe,

The Postal Regulatory Commission would have to approve the widespread closings, as the USPS prepares to file a request for a "national change of service," Brennan said.

Donahoe also will announce "a replacement strategy" involving third-party retailers, she said.

"If you're a community and there is a local convenience store, for example, we might be reaching out to these organizations to see if they would be interested in providing limited postal service for the community that might be affected," Brennan said.

So between corporate and now public sector layoffs, expect the unemployment rate to resume climbing steadily to double digits, hitting it some time in Q4, at which point QE3 will be inevitable, as Goldman predicted yesterday.


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1 posted on 07/26/2011 8:15:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

And hopefully 3,700 “Postmasters.”

That will save gobs of cash.


2 posted on 07/26/2011 8:20:22 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I can't think of anything clever, so I'll just say, "Obama sucks.")
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To: SeekAndFind

https://prod-shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopCategoriesDisplay?storeId=10052&catalogId=10001


3 posted on 07/26/2011 8:21:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: SeekAndFind

The other thing they could do is stop delivery on saturday’s they’ve been talking about doing that for years.


4 posted on 07/26/2011 8:21:29 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Vermont Lt

Except for delivery, most post office transactions could be handled by a kiosk-ATM type machine................


5 posted on 07/26/2011 8:22:29 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Post Office should have been systematically downsizing in an orderly way for a LONG time now.

As I understand it, Congress forced USPS to maintain current operations as a way to continue to fund its pension plans as long as possible.

Mail is going the way of the Pony Express — and that was completely foreseeable. The need to have this function fulfilled by government was overcome by events long ago.


6 posted on 07/26/2011 8:22:51 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Please stop posting "helpful hints" in parentheses the title box. Thank you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Will do wonders for those unemployment numbers. Prayers to those affected. Regardless of what people think here, there are some wonderful folks working at the post office. They are pretty smart to some of them. They have to take an exam to get the jobs. Oh and guess which post offices will be affected? The conservative areas. You get what you wish for.


7 posted on 07/26/2011 8:24:27 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
I think there are many people who talk about the pressing need to cut government spending, and who don't grasp the fact that this means layoffing off government workers.

It's a shame, but you cannot keep all the projects, and keep all the workers AND cut the spending.

Pain is coming. But we need a smaller government.

8 posted on 07/26/2011 8:27:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Vermont Lt; SeekAndFind

And hopefully 3,700 “Postmasters.”

And when did you ever see any of them cut from the top down?


9 posted on 07/26/2011 8:27:29 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: SeekAndFind

"If you're a community and there is a local convenience store, for example, we might be reaching out to these organizations to see if they would be interested in providing limited postal service for the community that might be affected," Brennan said.


How will that affect those of us who have a CCW license? When I drive to the local post office, I park at city hall, lock my firearm in the car, and walk a block. Will a post office in the "local convenience store" have the same firearms restrictions?

10 posted on 07/26/2011 8:28:13 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: MsLady

No, don’t let ‘em....Then it will be Monday, Wed and Friday next.


11 posted on 07/26/2011 8:29:05 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: napscoordinator
Oh and guess which post offices will be affected? The conservative areas.

I fully expect the Øbama administration to end mail delivery to the Lone Star state altogether. Øbama has had Texas in his cross hairs since the beginning of his reign.

12 posted on 07/26/2011 8:29:29 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Red Badger

And delivery could be outsourced to other carriers who would love to take on first-class delivery.


13 posted on 07/26/2011 8:30:13 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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14 posted on 07/26/2011 8:30:47 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

the local school was planning to run school 4 days a week. Nope, not to save on employee costs, but the savings on heating and cooling as well as transporting the kids would save the school about 1% a year.

Just the year before they built a $10 million addition onto the school building.

Imagine if a business made cuts like government did.


15 posted on 07/26/2011 8:31:24 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: Vermont Lt

I went to the relatively new local UPS store for the first time in our small town. Family managed. The managers 16 yr old daughter was working, knew the business inside out. Friendly as could be. Bent over backwards to help. I had to mail several framed pictures. They took them and said don’t worry, we’ll do all the packing, labeling, etc. No waiting.

Contrast to the local US Post Office. The uniformed workers there struggle to get out a smile. Getting anything extra is like pulling teeth. Move slow as turtles. No wonder it’s losing money.


16 posted on 07/26/2011 8:32:03 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Vermont Lt

Over in Hollywood where I work, I could literally travel in each direction for FIVE minutes and hit a USPS office, no kidding.

The bad part is that most of these clerks have worse attitudes than my GF with PMS.


17 posted on 07/26/2011 8:32:51 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: SeekAndFind

I know of rural communities that have less than 10,000 people within a 60 sq mile area that have five or more post offices.


18 posted on 07/26/2011 8:32:57 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: SeekAndFind

the Sam Drucker model!!!


19 posted on 07/26/2011 8:33:13 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)
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To: MsLady
The other thing they could do is stop delivery on saturday’s they’ve been talking about doing that for years.

The reason you've only heard 'talk' about it is that it takes literally 'an act of Congress' to do it. The USPS has been asking Congress for about two years now to allow them to eliminate Saturday delivery, and thus far, Congress has not allowed it...

the infowarrior

20 posted on 07/26/2011 8:33:15 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: SeekAndFind

Get ready for more shootings as Postal workers get laid off. With no competitive skills, for most laid off postal workers, it is the end of the line. Gerald Celente summed it up well - “when you lose everything, you lose it”. Many of the potential nuts have been sheltered by the system because supervisors do not want to deal with it. Layoffs will push this issue to the forefront. Get ready for some laid off postal workers to show up and start shooting up the Post Office. The term “postal” is based on facts.


21 posted on 07/26/2011 8:34:24 AM PDT by Fee
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To: ClearCase_guy

IO actually agree with you and the need to cut government. However, the red states are going to be slammed. Why not force retire all employees over 60 and then only hire new folks in extremely important functions. Remember all those folks over 60 are already retirement eligible and just hanging around for additional percentages. Actually make it everyone over 55 years old. You would not imagine the savings with just that step alone.


22 posted on 07/26/2011 8:36:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: ConservaTexan

Oh so true and the other rd state won’t be saved. If I was a postal worker in a red state I would be nervous as heck and begin saving every penny.


23 posted on 07/26/2011 8:39:35 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Red Badger

I haven’t been to a post office in years!! Who goes there???


24 posted on 07/26/2011 8:43:44 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: MsLady

Talk about cruel and unusual punishement. oh the horror!


25 posted on 07/26/2011 8:44:43 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Rennes Templar
They could easily turn over most of these 3700 post offices to their respective localities to run. Most of them are the nicest, newest buildings in town.

There would be cases where a local grandmother would run them free of charge in exchange for a place to sell her quilt blocks or whatever.

Prior to the unionization of the postal service, that's how most of the post offices in rural America were run. Business interests would actually compete with each other for the privilege of hosting the post office even though they made little money doing so. The extra traffic would generally result in extra sales where the businesses did make money.

26 posted on 07/26/2011 8:44:54 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vermont Lt
And hopefully 3,700 “Postmasters.”
That will save gobs of cash.

My dad worked as a postal clerk for a while before he retired and he was always railing about how many "supervisors" they had on every shift. About 1 to 3 ratio it seemed he said. Absolutely ridiculous.

27 posted on 07/26/2011 8:45:34 AM PDT by mc5cents (Noli nothis permittere te terere)
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To: max americana
Over in Hollywood where I work, I could literally travel in each direction for FIVE minutes and hit a USPS office, no kidding.

I live in a rural (boondocks) area. Talked with the local postmaster about this sometime back. He said part of the problem was the NIMBY effect. Whenever the USPS wanted to close distribution centers or post offices that were too near each other, local business interests screamed, as did their Congressman, to keep the facility open.

There is no street delivery here. Our post office/zip code handles five hamlets and if this one closes it will mean a 25-mile round trip to the closest one. Maybe I'm NIMBY here. :-)

28 posted on 07/26/2011 8:46:31 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: ClearCase_guy
It's a shame, but you cannot keep all the projects, and keep all the workers AND cut the spending. Pain is coming. But we need a smaller government.

My brother-in-law knows that all too well. USPS shut down their sorting and distribution operations in a city of 229,000 last month and moved their work to Shreveport, LA. Now at 62 yrs old this purple heart awarded retired Marine is gonna have a new battle on his hands to keep from having to sell his house.

29 posted on 07/26/2011 8:46:31 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Financial Repression.......it answers a lot of questions.....read about it on FinancialSense.com.)
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To: ExtremeUnction

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5258553


30 posted on 07/26/2011 8:47:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: NonValueAdded

Arnold Ziffel: US Mail pig


31 posted on 07/26/2011 8:48:34 AM PDT by tumblindice ("I want to make sure the American people aren't hurt." President 0 to La Raza)
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To: Rennes Templar

UPS and FedEx are miles better when it comes to package delivery. There is no way, however, that UPS and FedEx could pick up the daily mail delivery portion of what the USPS does.


32 posted on 07/26/2011 8:55:13 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Red Badger

ATM machines taking away jobs again!


33 posted on 07/26/2011 8:55:56 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: Red Badger

So many transactions have been automated it is the reason you do not have to go to the PO much any more.

What folks do not realize is that the back end work at the post office is a pretty amazing display of automation. Back in the day, I used to spend a couple of hours a day sorting mail into the route boxes before going out to deliver.

Now, it arrives at the station pretty much sorted. Not 100%, but it took a couple of hours a day out of the process. Pretty interesting stuff.

Here are some pretty basic suggestions for cutting the PO budget:

Take out Saturday delivery.

In suburban areas move to boxes at the end of the street, or at least the end of the driveway—this would allow for nearly double the amount of mail delivered in the same time.

Cut 20% of management staff. The PO is both top heavy and middle heavy. Everyone wants to be a supervisor, manager, director. Cut out the “experts” and let the people who know how to do the work, do it.

Stop the BS politically correct programs.

Stop the BS customer service programs. They are not set up correctly and they are a joke.

And, as they are doing, close redundant post offices in cities and suburban areas.

Improve computer access, telephone access, and establish more online based services (buying postage, etc.)

With all of these things the average person would not see too much of a change in service, yet the expenses would stabilize.

Look at where they are losing business: Normal package delivery. Improve the quality of the experience, improve delivery times, and actually compete for the business. Since they have the infrastructure in place for EVERY address in the country, they should be able to do this for less money than Fed Ex or UPS. Get rid of the crap (increase the rates for Direct Mail advertisements) and focus on what could make money.


34 posted on 07/26/2011 8:57:23 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I can't think of anything clever, so I'll just say, "Obama sucks.")
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To: Vermont Lt
...yet the expenses would stabilize.

Except for the UNION contracts labor costs.........

35 posted on 07/26/2011 8:59:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Terry Mross

Post offices in my area are 30-50 miles apart. I imagine they will close half of them if they make the decision the way they usually do.


36 posted on 07/26/2011 9:01:34 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Terry Mross

Post offices in my area are 30-50 miles apart. I imagine they will close half of them if they make the decision the way they usually do.


37 posted on 07/26/2011 9:02:09 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Rennes Templar

Same thing in Green Bay. Guy took my items, weighed them, told me not to worry, he had the packaging and that was it. 5 minutes.


38 posted on 07/26/2011 9:05:51 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (As long as the MSM covers for Obama, he will be above the law)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Look at where they are losing business: Normal package delivery. Improve the quality of the experience, improve delivery times, and actually compete for the business. Since they have the infrastructure in place for EVERY address in the country, they should be able to do this for less money than Fed Ex or UPS. Get rid of the crap (increase the rates for Direct Mail advertisements) and focus on what could make money.”

how about don’t actually compete for business ... if the private sector can handle it, don’t do it.

mail is obsolete - email/fax/phone/voice/vid chat. we don’t need mail.


39 posted on 07/26/2011 9:06:25 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: Terry Mross

I’m pretty sure ours won’t be among those closed. It serves six townships clumped together, about midway between Cleveland and Akron. Guess we’ll find out later today though!


40 posted on 07/26/2011 9:08:22 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: rokkitapps

Unfortunately, its in the constitution. It would be difficult to get rid of it. AND, there are real uses for the system during times of national crisis. I know it sounds silly, but the Kevin Costner movie was not that far off...


41 posted on 07/26/2011 9:29:01 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I can't think of anything clever, so I'll just say, "Obama sucks.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Letter carriers work very hard. They are under deadline pressure all the time, and some have a tough time of it. They fall, are out in all weather, get bitten by dogs, etc.

The pay is good for what they do but it's not as easy as a lot of people think. What has destroyed the PO is the union MENTALITY.

I'll never forget being in the PO on a day just before Christmas, with a line stretching out the door. There were three clerks, because it was lunchtime. The supervisor came out and was trying to help with small things, like fetching mail.

One of the clerks (the older guy union devotee type) was yelling at her that she wasn't allowed to help and he was going to make a complaint, and she had no business taking their job.

It was a lib Jewish area, and people were looking at him. wondered how many people on line were seeing it for what it was - leftist unionism raised to absurdity. It was a textbook example of why progressive politics in actually lead to stagnation and inefficiency.

No way any business that is successful can function like that.

42 posted on 07/26/2011 9:32:49 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: mc5cents

My dad went from part time flexie to the manager of one of the bulk mail centers. Over 40 years he really got soured on the whole thing.

He would say that moving the mail was pretty simple, and while he had his run ins with the unions there WAS a pride in workmanship.

I worked there for the four summers I was in college. To be honest, in the past 30 years, I have yet to work with a better bunch of “professionals.” They were really dedicated to getting the mail to the right place. And this was not a small post office (about 200 delivery routes.) I wish that staffs over the year would be 80% as good as those guys.

But, as I left I could see the “college” kids and “efficiency” experts coming in to start the automation. That was the beginning of the end. Too many supervisors. Too much bean counting and not enough focus on getting stuff done. Its funny, the bean counters are pretty much the reason why its become inefficient.

The stuff I saw happening in the post office, I saw repeatedly over the next thirty years in company after company. Whenever someone tried to “reengineer” the system without input from the folks on the front end, they really screwed to pooch.

So, yeah, they could dump 50% of the middle management and the system would run a lot better.


43 posted on 07/26/2011 9:34:34 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I can't think of anything clever, so I'll just say, "Obama sucks.")
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To: max americana

I live within five miles of four post offices. One is a storefront—that should be closed. The other one service two decent sized towns. And the last one is the main one for the region.

Clerks get frustrated because they have to deal with a myriad of changing rules, customers who dont understand them, and training that was established by accountants.

Whenever you hear the phrase, “We cannot do that” without an explanation or alternative, you are dealing with training systems set up to protect the cash drawer, and not service the customers. Of course, there some things they cannot do because of safety issues (like sending lead acid batteries through the normal mail system.) But there should be an explanation and an alternative offered.

And, the hardest part is that people come in fixing for a fight because of the crappy service over the long haul.


44 posted on 07/26/2011 9:38:40 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I can't think of anything clever, so I'll just say, "Obama sucks.")
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how many of these are in rural areas?

how many closings would mean campaign communications would be hindered? (iow advantage to democrats?)


45 posted on 07/26/2011 9:43:44 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Rennes Templar

But you paid dearly for that service.

You would NEVER pay that much for service from the post office.

My local UPS store sucks. They are arrogant and they don’t listen. I will go across town to the other UPS store or Fed Ex store.

But, if the local UPS store had to deal with the volume of people they would be understaffed and they would be nasty.

I am not defending lousy service, but people walk into the post office fixing for a fight. They “expect” bad service, so when they see anything, their suspicion is confirmed.

I have seen crappy service in all delivery stores. I will tell you that the reason I use the USPS is because I can do it all online, and the guy comes to my door every day. I don’t have to call them, or email them or anything. The less human contact, the better the system.

I can tell you that I send out ten or twelve pieces of priority mail daily during my busy season. The delivery times, tracking, and accuracy is just as good as UPS or Fed EX for a lot less money.

They could get rid of ALL of their buildings for all I care.


46 posted on 07/26/2011 9:44:14 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I can't think of anything clever, so I'll just say, "Obama sucks.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee whiz, who’da thunk they’d be in trouble financially when they build post offices in towns with less than 200 people?!?


47 posted on 07/26/2011 9:48:13 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Red Badger
most post office transactions could be handled by a kiosk-ATM type machine...

Those ATMs are already to blame for high unemployment. Don't believe me? Ax obummer.

48 posted on 07/26/2011 9:50:50 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
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Self ping for future reference.


49 posted on 07/26/2011 9:51:22 AM PDT by dsm69
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To: fightinJAG

don’t forget USPS mail is statutorily requred for certain legal notices.

for private service perhaps. but it is not as simple as mere email is enough.


50 posted on 07/26/2011 9:58:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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