Skip to comments.The no-kids-allowed movement is spreading
Posted on 07/27/2011 12:00:44 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows
What's the matter with kids today and why doesn't anyone want them around? In June, Malaysia Airlines banned babies from many of their first class cabins, prompting other major airlines to consider similar policies.
Earlier this month, McDain's, a Pittsburgh area restaurant that banned kids under 6 became a mascot for the no-kids-zone movement.
According to a Pittsburgh local news poll, more than half of area residents were in favor of the ban. And now big business is paying attention.
"Brat bans could well be the next frontier in destination and leisure-product marketing," writes Robert Klara in an article on the child-free trend in AdWeek.
Klara points to Leavethembehind.com, a travel website for kid-free vacations, with a massive list of yoga retreats, luxury resorts and bargain hotels around the world that ban children.
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Well behaved children are almost never a problem.
That being said, I understand completely the growing trend towards keeping out children.
Can we have a no-thugs-allowed movement?
Children need to be socialized in order to learn to be social. That said, considering parents are too lazy to discipline their children anymore I believe businesses have grounds to prohibit children. Parents do not have the right to bring anything, including unruly children, that disrupts the business.
I’m all for the no babies in First or Business Class, but the ban at restaurants in unnecessary as you can avoid kids by dining at restaurants that would not attract people who drag their kids along.
Or at least the type of folks that cannot control their kids.
I have a much bigger problem with adults who blather loudly into their cell phones or drop f-bombs every other word than with toddler meltdowns.
My grandson is a classic example of an over-nurtured child. His mother PLEADS with him to mind her and makes all sorts of threats that she never follows up on. And when I was watching him alone he needed to “go number 2” and wanted me to “wipe” him!? He’s frickin 6 and a half!!!
I told him that I wasn’t going to and I learned to wipe myself before I was five. He somehow managed. ;-)
The kid is so unruly that he drives the family crazy. But he’s learned to mind me. I follow through with my threats and, other than bruises and one broken bone, he’s doing fine. ;-)
With respect, that is not the case. I've seen people bring babies and small children to the best restaurant in town. Some people can only take a hint if it's tied to a brick and thrown forcefully at them.
That's where the article places the blame. I put the blame on incompetent parents who 1) Treat their child like a buddy, 2) Never, ever, discipline a child, 3) Pay no attention to their child in a public place, 4) Become irate when confronted with their child's rude behavior.
Mike McDain has been a friend of mine since the 60s but I hadn't been to his place for 4 or 5 years.
When I heard about this kid banning program, I got two other couples and we went to McDains and made it a point to tell him why.
We've been back since then and his business has really picked up.
He also has a driving range and I now go there instead of my club to hit balls.
I honestly believe that this AS WELL AS SMOKING!! should be up to the wishes of the proprietor.
If there is a demand for places to go where you can bring the rug rats, by all means, open a place up and make a fortune.
Similarly, if there are folks out there who enjoy a cigarette or cigar with a glass of wine after their meal, go for it.
I know, I know, it’s an outdated concept.
It’s called “the free market”.
Good. So long as I get audibly assaulted by little junior son-of-a-*itch in every restaurant, store and church I step into, smokers are owed an apology.
About the Author:
Piper Weiss is a liberal uber-mommy who defiantly breast feeds in public and believes the whole world revolves around her sweet little Mystic and her precious adorable Brie.
(OK, I made this up, but seriesly....)
Why should I have to change my habits because of some self-centered, incompetent adult who refuses to control their brat?
No...socialization has nothing to do with it. Parenting has everything to do w/ it tho. It never takes a village just 2 adults (male & female) who take their roles seriously. If kids are well behaved at home they’ll be that way in public. That said they’re kids and will act that way until mature.
Of interest, ping.
Have you ever been in a public place where the kids are going crazy and screaming and mom and dad are just sitting there?....No thanks!
This is a logical conclusion for an increasingly hyperindivualistic culture devoted exclusively to pleasure and petty power.
Adults have abdicated because they don't want the children "mad."
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