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Can We Assume;Any Combination Of A Perry/Romney/Rubio/Christie Ticket Will Topple Obama?

Posted on 07/28/2011 1:21:22 PM PDT by Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

It would appear that a Perry/Rubio Ticket is Obama's worst nightmare.{Agreed?}If not,even a Perry/Romney ticket would also cause a 55/45 Landslide in 2012. The best advantage with Perry is that he represents the deep red south! Obama can kiss North Carolina,Colorado & Florida good-bye.Nevada? well,Obama can kiss Nevada good-bye as well so long as Harry Reid doesn't try to pull a fast one again with his union buddies "Upgrading The Voting Machines". A Perry/Bachmann ticket will work well too,but we need Rubio more.Marco Rubio=65% Of Hispanice Votes.


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1 posted on 07/28/2011 1:21:24 PM PDT by Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

No. Don’t assume anything. We take for granted how many people stay informed on the issues. The reality is a majority of people just care who wins American Idol and for President, is just as popular to vote for.


2 posted on 07/28/2011 1:24:00 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

No, I don’t think you can assume that. Especially if Romney is at the top of the ticket. He won’t inspire centrist voters, he will repel conservatives, and he won’t be liberal enough to draw liberals away from Obama, however much they may complain about Obama right now. You can only hope for a Republican win if the ticket is rather conservative but still exciting and inspiring, as Reagan was. Rubio would certainly be a good addition; so would West. There should be no assumptions when facing Obama’s corrupt and frighteningly well-financed machine; they are quite capable of stealing an election.


3 posted on 07/28/2011 1:24:36 PM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys
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4 posted on 07/28/2011 1:24:36 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

I wouldn't assume that ... no.


5 posted on 07/28/2011 1:26:18 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

According to the latest polling data, you only need a good and stiff wind.


6 posted on 07/28/2011 1:26:18 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

No. And Rubio is ineligible.


7 posted on 07/28/2011 1:26:36 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

Nice list of RINOS. I would not vote for any of them.


8 posted on 07/28/2011 1:28:12 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace"- Rick Perry)
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

I’d like a Marco Rubio/Liz Cheney ticket!

They are both well equiped and unafraid to punch reporters and debate opponents right in the mouth!
(verbally, of course...)

They know the facts on a wide range of issues, and very capably dismantle the lies of the liberals.


9 posted on 07/28/2011 1:29:54 PM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

Palin/Rubio

See my tagline, spoken as a Texan well-acquainted with Perry.


10 posted on 07/28/2011 1:31:24 PM PDT by Jedidah (I'll vote for an earthworm before I'll vote for Obama. So wiggle on in, Rick Perry.)
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

By next Nov we could run Larry the Cable Guy and win in a landslide.


11 posted on 07/28/2011 1:32:35 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ottbmare

Rubio is NOT a natural born citizen.

His father was not naturalized until Marco was 4 years old.

Just because Obama is what he is and has gotten away with it doesn’y mean that two wrongs make a right.

And don’t think that the Democrats wouldn’t jump all over Rubio-—and constitutionalists-—for looking the other way while blasting Obama’s non-eligibility.

Let’s stand on the Constitution and the Founders’ understanding of constitutional concepts and leave cheap politics to the other side.


12 posted on 07/28/2011 1:35:42 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Spot on !


13 posted on 07/28/2011 1:37:12 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: mnehring

Exactly. It’s all about who can win so we can continue our path to destruction.


14 posted on 07/28/2011 1:37:36 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Scanian

He was born in the USA, correct?


15 posted on 07/28/2011 1:38:39 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys
Don't even try it. Any ticket with Romney on it will cause a 3rd party bid that will split the GOP wide open.

What's more, many of us on FR will support that 3rd party.
16 posted on 07/28/2011 1:40:26 PM PDT by Antoninus (Nothing that offends God can possibly be a legitimate right.)
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To: Antoninus

Don't even try it. Any ticket with Romney on it will cause a 3rd party bid that will split the GOP wide open. What's more, many of us on FR will support that 3rd party.

Absolutely.


17 posted on 07/28/2011 1:42:19 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: ottbmare

I don’t think Romney will be at the top of the ticket assuming Perry Runs. Just wait till he performs at the next debate. alot of voters haven’t seen much of Perry just yet. I have,, He Is SO PRESIDENTIAL !!! whereas Obama is a stuttering democrat who is as boring as a turnip without a teleprompter.


18 posted on 07/28/2011 1:44:54 PM PDT by Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

No.


19 posted on 07/28/2011 1:48:13 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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Assume absolutely nothing about what ticket would beat 0bama in 2012. I very clearly remember many FReepers “assumed” inaccurate polling, the PUMAs and the “Bradley Effect” would prove the pundits wrong and push the McCain-Palin ticket past 0bama-Biden in 2008.

And now...

Obama has the power of incumbency and will be able to control the argument on many fronts. He also has a near-100% alliance with the “media,” and a lot of voters’ minds are still made up late in the game by their decidedly progressivist propaganda.

Plus, let’s not forget he’s going to have more than $1 billion in campaign funds, dwarfing anything a challenger will be able to garner.

No matter the condition of the country... high unemployment, crime, housing issues, border problems, etc... Obama is still going to be very difficult to beat. His baseline of support is going to be minimally in the mid-40% range. More than 47% don’t pay a cent of income taxes, and they LIKE it that way. Plus, several millions of voters just simply like him. It can’t be explained other than “it’s just a feeling” they have. And, c’mon... as for the minorities... they’re not going anywhere.

We like to think this or that development will certainly lead to Obama’s being wiped out in an electoral tsunami. Because the dems have a guaranteed lock on the Northeast (save for maybe NH), the West Coast states, Illinois and several others, the GOP nominee is going in with a distinct disadvantage. The GOPer will have to engage in a state-by-state strategic slugfest through the swing states to assemble the necessary numbers to get over the top.

Of course, it’s possible to win against Obama, but let’s face reality... America is NOT the kick-ass, conservative nation anymore that propelled Reagan over Mondale by a 49-state blowout. Wins against the dems in the general elections (which bring a much broader turnout vs. the mid-terms) are going to be tortuously close.

So the only assumption we should have is the GOP nominee has his or her work cut out to win on Election Day.


20 posted on 07/28/2011 1:54:39 PM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: Scanian

DITTO


21 posted on 07/28/2011 1:56:16 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

“we need Rubio more. Marco Rubio=65% Of Hispanice Votes.”

You’re dreaming, my FRiend.

I’ll make a fearless Grumplestiltskin prediction right here and now:
In 2012, Republicans will be lucky to get 25-30% of “the Hispanic vote”, even with Rubio on the ticket.

His “Hispanic-ness” will make about as much difference as Herman Cain’s “blackness” would make if _he_ were to be the Republican candidate - which is very little indeed.

And one other thing that you can be SURE of — If Rubio is nominated as VP, watch for a barrage from the left and [even moreso] from the media, challenging his qualifications as “a natural born citizen”. It WILL happen. There is considerable disagreement as to whether he meets the Constitutional qualifications for the presidency, even amongst those right here on FR. I’m not going to take sides either way. But to deny that this won’t happen is a-whistlin’ past the political graveyard...

Just sayin’...


22 posted on 07/28/2011 1:58:05 PM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: Antoninus
What's more, many of us on FR will support that 3rd party.

Which, should it come to fruition, gives Obama the win in a walk. I don't like Romney either, but that's the reality we face.

23 posted on 07/28/2011 1:58:18 PM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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Marco Rubio=65% Of Hispanice Votes

For the dems, yes.

24 posted on 07/28/2011 2:00:26 PM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: ScottinVA
Which, should it come to fruition, gives Obama the win in a walk. I don't like Romney either, but that's the reality we face.

If that's the case, then so be it. Better a known enemy in front of us than a false friend behind us. I will never vote for Romney under any circumstances.
25 posted on 07/28/2011 2:00:37 PM PDT by Antoninus (Nothing that offends God can possibly be a legitimate right.)
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It may be that by Nov 2012, neither party wants to win, and the positions and platforms may look surrealistic, even more than the surrealistic show going on right now with debt ceilings and borrowing and spending, and ....lying.


26 posted on 07/28/2011 2:16:33 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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I’m all for a Perry run. I think he would knock the socks off Obama, and while Perry has his flaws, he is dependable for states rights, anti federal government, and conservative financial measures. He is also pro life which for me used to be the first level of decision making although now with Obama, it seems we have all sorts of things we need to be concerned about at the same time.

I would hate to see Perry and Mitt Romney together. First of all, too much “hair upon the head” there. Secondly, as much as I like Perry as a candidate against Obama, picking Romney as a running mate would tell me Perry doesn’t have any sense... or taste for that matter. I don’t think Perry would pick Romney anyway. While Perry fits the bill for most of the Tea Party values, he has flown the coup a couple of times with some of his stands (understandable in context for the most part but surely still a little odd), and he will be fighting to prove his worth to the Tea Partiers. If he got in bed with Romeny, he would lose all ground with them, I think.

I like the Perry / Rubio combo. Is it true Rubio isn’t a natural born citizen and would therefore be ineligible? Sad if so. That would be a great combination.

Palin and Perry would go nicely together too, quite nicely, and their hair styles actually compliment one another. (JK)

Personally, I would love to get Ohio governor John Kasich as a VP candidate with Rick Perry or even visa versa — Perry from Texas and Kasich from Ohio... two big states, and you never know with Ohio how they’ll go on the national level. I don’t think anyone is talking about John Kasich, and maybe he is too busy with Ohio right now, but I sure just like that man both politically and personally.


27 posted on 07/28/2011 2:17:54 PM PDT by casinva (We are being held hostage by Democrat US Senators who block votes just like the ones in Wisconsin)
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To: Winstons Julia
He was born in the USA, correct?

His parents were not US citizens at the time of his birth.

28 posted on 07/28/2011 2:26:17 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Grumplestiltskin
"I’ll make a fearless Grumplestiltskin prediction right here and now: In 2012, Republicans will be lucky to get 25-30% of “the Hispanic vote”, even with Rubio on the ticket.

New Mexico is over 50% Hispanic, and the Tea Party candidate for Governor won last year by a fairly healthy 4% margin. LOTS of Hispanics are conservative. Where are you from, California? 'Cause that WOULD explain your pessimism.

29 posted on 07/28/2011 2:27:54 PM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
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To: buccaneer81

At the time of his birth, however, he would be considered a citizen because the Constitution had not been changed to say that he wouldn’t be.


30 posted on 07/28/2011 2:28:24 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Winstons Julia

Yes, in Miami in 1971.

That makes him NATIVE born but not NATURAL Born.

http://www.birthers.org/USC/Vattel.html

That site covers NBC as it was understood to the founders. The concept of birth within the country to two citizen parents was so widely understood by people with knowledge of international law in 1787 that the text of the Constitution was very brief on the subject. Vattel was the acknowledged authority.

SCOTUS has dealt with citizenship and native born citizenship but it has never dealt with NBC. The old sources remain the best.


31 posted on 07/28/2011 3:05:02 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

I would think he would be eligible.


32 posted on 07/28/2011 3:08:38 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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And I would think NOT. Moreover, I believe that Marco KNOWS he is not eligible, which is why I believe he so adamantly refuses to consider being on the GOP ticket.

If HE is eligible, so is Obama. Meaning that for some folks, ANYTHING GOES.

BTW, Marco is smart enough not to deal with this. He realizes that it is not his fault. If his parents had gotten naturalized in the ‘60’s, that would have been enough. But they delayed doing it. We Tea Partiers here in Florida have had to undertake a great deal of research to get the facts about his folks. The evidence is that the dad became a citizen in ‘74 and the mom after that.

Rubio has become a good senator already. I was a very early supporter of his against Crist and I’m delighted in how he has turned out. Replacing McConnell is a reasonable goal for him and I think he’ll be great as GOP Leader in the Senate.

I don’t care how talented or how popular Marco is, the Constitution is more important than political expediency.
And we need to take a STRICT view of its precepts and not just grab any joker whom we think will attract votes, a la Obama.


33 posted on 07/28/2011 3:28:50 PM PDT by Scanian
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“the Constitution is more important than political expediency”

Change it so that people born here to non-citizen parents aren’t citizens then. Until you do that ... Rubio is eligible.


34 posted on 07/28/2011 3:47:08 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: casinva
Personally, I would love to get Ohio governor John Kasich as a VP candidate

As an Ohioan, I like him, voted for him and think he's doing a great job here. That said, he is not VP material simply because of his big mouth. He doesn't think before he speaks and I don't mean in a funny or silly way like Biden. I agree with the message in this video, but he could have chosen a better way of wording it in public.

Here it is:

Kasich and the Cop.

35 posted on 07/28/2011 3:47:14 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Winstons Julia

Wrong.


36 posted on 07/28/2011 3:48:27 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys

Going by polls at this point is close to useless. People are responding mostly on name recognition, a little bit on basic resume.

But that’s not how they vote. They vote on the likability of the candidate, how closely they’re aligned with them on issues, how the handle the rigors of the campaign, whether they want to see them in their living rooms for the next four years, etc..


37 posted on 07/28/2011 3:50:45 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Winstons Julia
Change it so that people born here to non-citizen parents aren’t citizens then.

It already says that they are not natural born. They are however native born.

38 posted on 07/28/2011 3:50:54 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/07/the_good_news_rubios_eligible.html


39 posted on 07/28/2011 3:58:37 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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I would think he would be eligible.

Rubio is eligible to everyone except birthers. And nobody is listening to birthers much these days.

40 posted on 07/28/2011 4:01:43 PM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: Gena Bukin

I am entirely open to the idea of changing the Constitution so that we discourage the anchor babies. Really. We need to look at it.

Until that’s done, though ... good eligible candidates are good eligible candidates.


41 posted on 07/28/2011 4:04:53 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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In your dreams.

I’ll bet I have a higher opinion of Rubio than you do. That has nothing to do with it. Either you meet the Founders’ qualifications for the presidency or you don’t. Marco does NOT.

It is not negotiable and only a constitutional amendment would make him so.


42 posted on 07/28/2011 4:07:05 PM PDT by Scanian
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Romney is winning everywhere right now. If Perry gets in it, Romney is still winning everywhere except the south. Romney is neck and neck with Obama with a slight edge at this point. The other candidates are behind Obama in most polls at this moment, but I think it’s going to get worse for Obama, not better.


43 posted on 07/28/2011 4:30:37 PM PDT by Force of Truth (You don't have to be smart or be good even. If you want my vote, you just have to be CHEAP.)
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To: Gena Bukin
Rubio is eligible to everyone except birthers. And nobody is listening to birthers much these days.

And is on Romney's short list for VP.

44 posted on 07/28/2011 4:34:09 PM PDT by Force of Truth (You don't have to be smart or be good even. If you want my vote, you just have to be CHEAP.)
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To: Force of Truth

I’d hold my nose and vote for that combo.

And based on Baraq’s disastrous economic record, it’s a ticket far more likely to win than the similarly flawed McCain/Palin in 08.


45 posted on 07/28/2011 4:38:36 PM PDT by nascarnation
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It could be worse.


46 posted on 07/28/2011 4:43:27 PM PDT by Force of Truth (You don't have to be smart or be good even. If you want my vote, you just have to be CHEAP.)
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To: Winstons Julia
That doesn't fly. I lived in Canada for seven years. I was indeed under the jurisdiction of the Canadian government for some things. But let me you, I was still under the jurisdiction of the United States as I filed US income tax returns and registered for the Selective Service, not to mention holding a US passport.

FAIL.

47 posted on 07/28/2011 4:43:52 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Gena Bukin

Who is listening to you, noob?


48 posted on 07/28/2011 4:45:01 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Liberals_R_BiPolar_Turkeys
Ughh....I shudder at the remotest possibility of Romney getting anywhere near the nomination.

I really don't think he will, though. His record is Massachusetts should be enough to sink him.

49 posted on 07/28/2011 4:48:03 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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You may say “fail” all you would like.

It’s my belief that Rubio is eligible according to The Constitution.

In my opinion...you fail... so we’ll agree to disagree then?


50 posted on 07/28/2011 4:53:13 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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