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Tests confirm age of prehistoric carving in Wales
Stone Pages ^ | Thursday, July 28, 2011 | Edited from Dr George Nash PR

Posted on 07/29/2011 9:43:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Recent discovery of a stylized reindeer engraving in a South Wales by Dr George Nash from the Department of Archaeology and Anthropology, University of Bristol, now has been scientifically dated. The date of the flowstone that covers the head of the reindeer is 12,572 +/- 659 years Before Present, and the rock-art below may be much earlier. It is now confirmed that the carved reindeer is one of Britain's earliest examples of engraved figurative rock art.

Dr Nash discovered the faint engraving while visiting the Gower Peninsula caves near Swansea in September 2010 with students and members of the Clifton Antiquarian Club. "This engraving appears to have made by an artist using a flint point held in his or her right hand onto a limestone panel covered with flowstone. The panel forms part of a very tight niche at the back of the cave," Dr Nash said.

The discovery has being officially verified by experts from Oxford and Durham universities and the National Museum of Wales. The project team that includes Dr Peter van Calsteren and Dr Louise Thomas from the Open University, and Dr Mike Simms from the National Museums Northern Ireland is being financially supported by Cadw and logistically administered by the National Museum Wales.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: caveart; cavepainting; godsgravesglyphs; macroetymology; paleosigns; wales

1 posted on 07/29/2011 9:43:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 07/29/2011 9:46:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

“The date of the flowstone that covers the head of the reindeer is 12,572 +/- 659 years Before Present, and the rock-art below may be much earlier. “

“Before Present?” There’s already a perfectly good designation for that era. It’s called. “B.C.”


3 posted on 07/29/2011 10:09:12 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito
“Before Present?” There’s already a perfectly good designation for that era. It’s called. “B.C.”

Not really. B.C. make you have to add the years B.C. with the years A.D.. B.P. is just another way of saying "ago." That's much simpler.
4 posted on 07/29/2011 10:22:38 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Immerito

You’re thinking of BCE and CE. Before Present is just a friendly way of totaling the time of an event without requiring the reader to do any math. You’re looking for an agenda where there isn’t one.


5 posted on 07/29/2011 10:33:49 PM PDT by Melas (Sent via Galaxy Tab)
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To: Melas

Ahhh...my mistake. :-)


6 posted on 07/29/2011 10:38:59 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m very surprised that prehistoric wales could draw.


7 posted on 07/29/2011 10:57:57 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("I'll just go back to the dream I was having, before love went astray." Al Stewart)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Recent discovery of a stylized reindeer engraving in a South Wales by Dr George Nash from the Department of Archaeology and Anthropology, University of Bristol...”

Wow, Nash must be ancient..


8 posted on 07/30/2011 12:57:47 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: SunkenCiv

Why oh why do they publish articles like that without pics.

Sheesh.


9 posted on 07/30/2011 2:52:41 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Immerito

:’) BP isn’t the same as BC — the BP pertains (usually) to radiocarbon dating (I said usually because that’s the most common technique of radiometric dating in use) and the Present is actually 1950, which is when the RC technique was figured out.


10 posted on 07/30/2011 10:11:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: alstewartfan; marsh2

:’)


11 posted on 07/30/2011 10:32:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Quix; JoeProBono

Well, this carving is over 12,000 years old, and I'm pretty sure there *were* no cameras then, so... wait, what? ;')

You're right, time to call out the angry mob:

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12 posted on 07/30/2011 10:33:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Древнейший в Британии наскальный рисунок


13 posted on 07/30/2011 10:45:21 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: SunkenCiv; JoeProBono

LOL.

Joe,

Did you catch my ping on Sunken’s other thread?


14 posted on 07/30/2011 11:10:44 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: JoeProBono

Thanks JPB. That’s some caption, eh? ;”)


15 posted on 07/30/2011 11:26:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Kate Morgan reports [online video]

UKs oldest cave art discovered in Gower

16 posted on 09/03/2011 12:20:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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