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Anyone Notice the LACK of Communist History On The Military Chan?....(VANITY)
http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | 8/1/2011 | Me

Posted on 08/01/2011 10:13:57 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear

My son LOVES the Military Channel and really loves WW2 history. It is pretty much "All Nazi All Of The Time" on there that I have noticed. I have found the distinct lack of any docs that show the evils of Mao, Stalin, and others. It's now become a joke.....and I have mentioned this to my child. WHY all 'Hitler' and no 'Stalin'? I'm SURE it has to do with who owns the channel, no doubt.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: communism; media; revisionism; whitewash; worldwarii; wwii
I guess the only place (if they haven't deleted the vids) is on YT for any historical reference. Sigh.
1 posted on 08/01/2011 10:14:01 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I actually have pondered this question. You came up with my two reasons: 1. Ownership. 2. Perhaps pard to impossible to find camera footage. (There have been some good pieces on the fall of the Tsar during the Bolshevik Revolution, but it does not really discuss the pack mentality of the Bolsheviks.)


2 posted on 08/01/2011 10:21:07 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
I do take note that when they have a program on the Nazi invasion of Poland from the west, they omit the Commie invasion from the east. The Nazis and the commies collaborated to invade Poland at the same time.
3 posted on 08/01/2011 10:24:00 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Obama may not be a natural born citizen, but there is no denying that he is a natural born liar.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Because they don’t wish to show the side they’re sympathetic with in any negative light. Hence, their censorship of the truth. I had a liberal history professor in college who thought FDR was wonderful at Yalta while Churchill was “unnecessarily” distrustful of Stalin.


4 posted on 08/01/2011 10:29:55 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Maybe somebody doesn't want to p!ss off "Pooty Poot" Putin ...


5 posted on 08/01/2011 10:36:20 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

check out “the soviet story” (2008)


6 posted on 08/01/2011 10:37:15 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: mlocher

I think I may have my answer. Are they affiliated w/ the New York Slimes?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigation_Discovery


7 posted on 08/01/2011 10:38:38 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Mr. Weiner...Don' t Tweet your meat. It's too late to delete!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I think those commie armies were pretty much “no frills”. I don’t think they took movies of their brutalities. To them, it was no big deal, just SOP stuff.


8 posted on 08/01/2011 10:40:19 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Migraine

Unlike those Nazis. They LOVED to ‘document’ everything......to a fault. LOL! Still, tho, history is history.......and should be observed. The Communist were just as bad.


9 posted on 08/01/2011 10:45:20 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Mr. Weiner...Don' t Tweet your meat. It's too late to delete!)
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To: Soothesayer9

I agree, the “Soviet Story” should be required in all high schools to see what hell is really like. If you could rent it, buy it or borrow it, it would be well worth it to show his son.


10 posted on 08/01/2011 11:14:19 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I’ve wondered the same thing for years. And it’s not just the Military Channel. It’s the History Channel too, though I don’t really watch either very much. I see ads and previews for Nazi history all the time but never for anything much about the Commies.


11 posted on 08/01/2011 11:49:30 PM PDT by RussP
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

A big part of it is the amounts of camera footage. We produced lots and the germans did as well so there’s ample material.


12 posted on 08/02/2011 12:06:24 AM PDT by jimnm
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Great question. The truth is there is very little archival footage from the Soviet period. The men of SOVKINO (or SOVKHNO) were chiefly tasked with propagandistic efforts, and utilized “dramatic recreations” almost exclusively.

Take, for example, a few of the most famous “soviet shots” of all time. The first must certainly be the arrival of Lenin at the Finland Terminus in 1917. You remember the shot, right? There he is... On top of an armored car, while adoring masses cheer. You might also remember the shot of the in-gathering of revolutionaries and their subsequent “massacre” by Tsarist forces on Nevsky Prospekt. Or, at least, you may remember seeing the famous archival footage of Soviet soldiers meeting up on a vast wasteland of snow, embracing in celebration of the fact they finally surrounded Von Paulus’ siege army.

All of these famous shots are staged, fictional recreations. All of them, and more.

If you take the time to watch the films of Eisenstein, Pudovkin, and Alexandrov, you will see all sorts of staged shots that have made their way into “documentary” use.

The drop-off point is 1917. There is practically NO actual documentary footage of what life was REALLY like in the USSR from 1917 to 1950.

Think about it - own an actual movie camera? Are you kidding? Own film? Disseminate unsavory information about the Fatherland? Take that film to someone to have it DEVELOPED for goodness’ sakes? Smuggle it out or preserve it? Yeah right!


13 posted on 08/02/2011 12:17:53 AM PDT by golux
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I have noticed that. I just watched “The Agenda” last night and highly recommend it although no surprises if you have been studying it for awhile.
The answer to Communism; evangelical Christianity is well represented and the production is very good.

I’ve had some arguments with liberal wackos and they genuinely think Nazism is the evil and Communism is benign. Our nation is completely brainwashed.


14 posted on 08/02/2011 3:04:44 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: golux

How about the “storming of the Winter Palace” where one bolshevik blows himself up to blast open the massive gates?

Or Bloody Sunday with the baby carriage careening down the long stairs?

Or how the Soviets doctored footage to obliterate the image of a suddenly declared “nonperson” (usually Trotsky) by depicting a shadowy figure rising up to cheer the other communist bigwigs? Even the `Hitler Channel’ assembled some interesting before & after comparisons.

A movie camera as a secret weapon against the State.... I will always regard my Dad’s old Bolex in a different light. But now cell cameras are ubiquitous and the State’s power of secrecy is forever challenged.


15 posted on 08/02/2011 3:51:08 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam. Freedom for mankind.")
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To: elcid1970

Exactly! ...And by the way the Bolex is a fantastic camera. Don’t lose it!

Yes, the storming of the Winter Palace and the oft-echoed “baby carriage down the stairs” scenario (was it Untouchables?) are Eisenstein’s inventions, prepared for the 1927 10th Anniversary Year celebrations.

It must be said that these are some of the most inventive films of all time. OCTOBER / STRIKE / POTEMKIN / MAN WITH A MOVIE CAMERA... Pure genius.


16 posted on 08/02/2011 4:09:16 AM PDT by golux
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To: chuckles
The Way Back is a really good movie, about some people who escaped the Gulag and walked to India.
17 posted on 08/02/2011 4:22:32 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

It’s because that the Roosevelt and later Truman Admin were “chock-a-block” FULL of “Out and Out” Communists, Socialists(Wallace) and Soviet Sympathizers. The newspaper of record(New York Times) was Sympathetic to Joe Stalin and the Soviet(and later Mao). To the victor goes the spoils. The victors write the history. As of late the shine is starting to wear off of Wilson’s, FDR and LBJ’s metal.


18 posted on 08/02/2011 7:35:08 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: vanilla swirl

I have noticed that. I just watched “The Agenda” last night and highly recommend it although no surprises if you have been studying it for awhile.
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Thanks! I’ll have to check it out.


19 posted on 08/02/2011 7:57:53 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Mr. Weiner...Don' t Tweet your meat. It's too late to delete!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

There is the occasionally a bit of history about communist Russia and Stalin on the Military or History channels. But you are correct, there’s far more programming about Hitler and Nazis than there is about communist tyrants and atrocities. I’ve yet to see a doc about the communist regimes in Russia and China done on the scale that’s done for the Nazis. There is vrtually nothing about Lenin, Stalin, Mao or any of the other commie tyrants who slaughtered millions during the twentieth century.


20 posted on 08/02/2011 8:11:30 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Our top military people serve on the Council of Foreign Relations and that is an International socialist group. They see their mission as being blocked by the power limitations and ideology of the constitutional Repubic. The ideology and law of the constitutional Republic are the opposite of internationalism.

Socialism is unconstitutional because it rejects individual rights and gives the elite sole power to determine and enact the “collective” good. If people were permitted to study the reality of Communism, Americans would know what kind of “progress” the elite are making to enslave the US under the UN. Military officers who have served in the Council and other elite international socilaist groups would be seen as treasonous for their international socilaist activities.


21 posted on 08/02/2011 9:02:11 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: rabidralph
It was worth seeing. If you don't mind the subtitles, I recommend Katyn.
22 posted on 08/03/2011 5:44:15 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
The Military Channel does make some, ahem, interesting choices. They have run like 5 different series on or shows on snipers. Simo Hayha, "White Death", the Finnish sniper with the greatest death count (540 to 800 with rifle, another 200 with a machine gun), is mentioned one time, briefly, when the Mosin–Nagant is discussed as one of the best rifles. You would think that a sniper who killed almost 1,000 men (not counting those who froze to death or were blown up by friendly fire trying to get him) would be worhty of a discussion on one of the series about snipers. No offense to the likes of Vassily Zaitsev, but he Hayha was a one man army, who took out that many men in under 100 days. Of course he is ignored because Hayha is a Finn, and his marks were Soviet soldiers during the Soviet invasion of Finland.

Still, they do have some great series. The First World War is top rate. In fact, the episode "Revolution" will be playing on Friday at 9 AM EST. It deals with the Russian Revolutions and the role the Germans played in aiding the Bolsheviks.
Episode 4, "Jihad", is also wonderful, showing how the Germans fomented Jihad to fight the British and Russians from Africa to the Caucuses and India.

23 posted on 08/03/2011 6:09:13 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

Thanks!


24 posted on 08/03/2011 6:49:48 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: rmlew

I’ll set our DVR!! Thanks!


25 posted on 08/04/2011 11:34:28 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Mr. Weiner...Don' t Tweet your meat. It's too late to delete!)
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