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Muggers Meet Target's Sig Sauer P239
New Haven Independent ^ | Aug. 2, 2011 | Paul Bass

Posted on 08/03/2011 12:09:57 PM PDT by opus86

Brandon Kruse said nothing when three attackers set upon him on his way out for sushi and a beer. Words weren’t necessary.

Kruse pulled out a handgun instead. The attackers fled; soon after, he helped the cops arrest them.

(Excerpt) Read more at newhavenindependent.org ...


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; selfdefense
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1 posted on 08/03/2011 12:10:00 PM PDT by opus86
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To: opus86

I hope the gun owner enjoys his stay in jail.

How dare him for thinking he has the right to protect himself and those other innocents around him.


2 posted on 08/03/2011 12:13:20 PM PDT by adm5 (AMERICA HAS ONLY GOD AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT LEFT TO SAVE THE REPUBLIC. by: LibLieSlayer 3/18/10)
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To: opus86

It is RACIST to interfere with Eric Holder’s people when they are minding their own bidness.


3 posted on 08/03/2011 12:15:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: adm5

whats with the extra apostrophe


4 posted on 08/03/2011 12:16:42 PM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: adm5
I hope the gun owner enjoys his stay in jail.

Perhaps you could point me toward where that information occurs in the story? I've read it twice and can't locate anything that says the assault victim was arrested and jailed.

5 posted on 08/03/2011 12:18:28 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: adm5

Huh? According to the article, he didn’t go to jail.


6 posted on 08/03/2011 12:19:01 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: opus86

Should’ve seen the guy trying to steal my light house solar lights skedaddle out of my yard when he saw my BB gun Ruger replica, lol


7 posted on 08/03/2011 12:21:15 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: opus86

If this was me and Mrs Clamper in Arizona these muggers would either meet Mr .45 HK or Mr. Glock27 .40 depending on my mood and/or Mrs Clampers .380 Rugar LCP.


8 posted on 08/03/2011 12:24:19 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: hiredhand

Argh.

Sarcasm is lost on many I suppose.


9 posted on 08/03/2011 12:29:00 PM PDT by adm5 (AMERICA HAS ONLY GOD AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT LEFT TO SAVE THE REPUBLIC. by: LibLieSlayer 3/18/10)
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To: opus86
Actually, the CCL holder did several things that are “wrong” from what he would have learned in a really good self-defense course that is focused on keeping him out of court.

First, when punched he should have shouted out “I fear for my life” rather than being silent. Being in fear for one’s life is justification in most cases for being allowed to pull a legally carried firearm from concealment and use it.

In some jurisdictions if you “just pull a concealed carry firearm and don't shoot anyone” the police will question you if you feared for your life. If you say something to the effect that you determined that you didn't need to shoot anyone because your life was not in danger or your were not afraid of serious bodily harm (or harm/death of another) than you may have admited guilt to escalating a non-deadly force confrontation into a deadly force confrontation. Which typically is called brandishing in may jurisdictions.

As to his drawing a firearm on the two “yoots” that came back for their bags and stuff, well technically he was probably thinking of himself as helping the police by detaining them without making a proper citizens arrest. In a lot of places that would have gotten him thrown in jail and possibly allowed the two “yoots” to sue him in civil court. Again, not a really wise thing to do, the way he did it, if what is reported in the story is correct.

The point of this comment is that when one takes the trouble to get a concealed carry license (and yes I have one) then one should spend some time learning about when deadly force (i.e. pointing a handgun at someone and probably killing them (to live)) is allowed by the law and when you are opening yourself up to lawsuits or jail time.

This guy was lucky that the police and prosecutor viewed him as a stand-up guy protecting himself. It could have turned out far worse for him.

10 posted on 08/03/2011 12:30:13 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: adm5

“I hope the gun owner enjoys his stay in jail.”

Idiot comment...you should not post crap like that that is not in the article.


11 posted on 08/03/2011 12:30:29 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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What I found interesting was that two of the idiots had to return to the scene to retrieve shopping bags and sandals. Brilliant.


12 posted on 08/03/2011 12:31:38 PM PDT by opus86
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To: adm5

LOL! :-) I’m “with” ya now. :-) Amen! :-)


13 posted on 08/03/2011 12:34:15 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Idiot comment...you should not post crap like that that is not in the article.

Unreal. Do you know what the term "sarcasm" means? Who has posted the idiotic comment?

14 posted on 08/03/2011 12:38:59 PM PDT by adm5 (AMERICA HAS ONLY GOD AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT LEFT TO SAVE THE REPUBLIC. by: LibLieSlayer 3/18/10)
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To: opus86
What I found interesting was that two of the idiots had to return to the scene to retrieve shopping bags and sandals. Brilliant.

They must have skedaddled out of there in a mighty big hurry.

15 posted on 08/03/2011 12:43:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: adm5

Went right over their heads...

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16 posted on 08/03/2011 12:48:05 PM PDT by flatfish
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To: adm5

Your ‘sarc’ tag was missing, my friend.


17 posted on 08/03/2011 12:49:23 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: adm5

Some people are kinda ‘slow” on FR, but in fairness, most Freepers use (s/) or sarc/ in their sarc posts.


18 posted on 08/03/2011 12:57:55 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: Robert357
First, when punched he should have shouted out “I fear for my life” rather than being silent.

Do CCL classes really teach people they need to verbally warn a mugger before firing? Like a warning shot or something? Giving up the element of a few precious seconds sounds like a pretty good way to get yourself killed.

I would never give a mugger a warning like that. His first warning would be the flash from the muzzle. If I aim correctly, ideally he should never hear the sound.

19 posted on 08/03/2011 12:59:10 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

It sounds like they are playing the “knockout game”:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2758175/posts


20 posted on 08/03/2011 12:59:27 PM PDT by marktwain
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