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Rick Perry Answers the Dreaded "Evolution" Question (Mentions holes in the Theory of Evolution)
Evolution News ^ | 08/09/2011 | David Klinghoffer

Posted on 08/09/2011 5:59:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Governor Rick Perry on evolution, in an interview with the Associated Press:

"There are clear indications from our people who have amazing intellectual capability that this didn't happen by accident and a creator put this in place. Now, what was his time frame and how did he create the earth that we know? I'm not going to tell you that I've got the answers to that. I believe that we were created by this all-powerful supreme being and how we got to today versus what we look like thousands of years ago, I think there's enough holes in the theory of evolution to, you know, say there are some holes in that theory."


TOPICS: Religion; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: 2012electionbias; creation; doublestandard; evolution; godgap; intelligentdesign; religiousleft; rickperry
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To: repub4ever1
>> If humans can evolve wolves into domesticated dogs of various appearances in 10,000 years<<

When the wolf becomes a parakeet we can talk.

21 posted on 08/09/2011 7:27:05 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: SuzyQue
He could also have mentioned the fact that most of the great "evolution scientists" were in fact incompetent sociopaths. See here... Evolution-Eugenics.
22 posted on 08/09/2011 7:35:54 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: SuzyQue
I think we both agree that it is a God-driven process

But, if it is not true, then it is not a God-driven process.

23 posted on 08/09/2011 7:38:36 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
“The THEORY of Evolution is just that. A Theory; and any honest scientist will tell you that we do not have all the answers. Science BELIEVES the theory of evolution is correct based on AVAILABLE evidence and people of faith believe the Bible is correct based on available evidence. The two can coexsist just fine until one or the other is proven to be incorrect. So far MR. Reporter, that has not happened.”

Who is this 'science' that BELIEVES? TOE was created to remove the Creator out of the public sector. Old Darwin was ticked off and fell into a dark depression and imagined the TOE. The TOE is stuck in a dried up lake bed going nowhere. The only survival of so called 'fittest' is evidenced by who survives first and most off the government nipple.

And NO I do not 'believe' this earth is a mere 6,000 years. The literal evidence says otherwise as well as that instruction manual sent to us to not only physically survive but to survive the next heaven/earth age. IF TOE is true, then there is NOT one thing any of US should be complaining about over what the liberals are doing to US. After all the concept is the 'fittest' will survive. And the majority of Americans voted to have the liberals strip US clean bare.

AND I do not even want to get started on what I think about 'republican' leadership.

24 posted on 08/09/2011 7:41:25 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Yes, but I think he was trying to be truthful.


25 posted on 08/09/2011 7:46:59 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: CynicalBear
When the wolf becomes a parakeet we can talk.

nice.

26 posted on 08/09/2011 8:11:45 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: SeekAndFind

He apparently doesn’t believe the first 3 chapters of Genesis. Does he believe John 3:16 and if so, why? If God would lie about creation, how can we believe Him regarding salvation.

The Scriptures aren’t a smorgasbord where we can pick and choose which parts we’ll believe; any more than we can pick and choose which Commandments need to be obeyed and which ones don’t apply to us.

The Lord’s half-brother James said: Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Likewise it follows that if you choose not to believe certain scriptures, you call God a liar, and you cast doubt on the WHOLE BOOK!


27 posted on 08/09/2011 8:53:11 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: CynicalBear
When the wolf becomes a parakeet we can talk.

That is the most illogical argument I have heard. Obviously you did not have the chance to study and read books on evolution. Evolution is not a magic show. It happens in an orderly fashion. Species which evolove from another species are closely related genetically and appearance to the prior species. The reason they evolve is to adapt to changing conditions in their environment. A wolf can evolve into a German shepherd dog due to change in survival conditions. The change is subtle and not drastic. We have a Lhasa Apso dog which weighs only 10 lbs. But it still has a lot of characteristics of a wolf such as bonding with its pack (which are us, people in the family), extremely similar skeletal structure, subservience to the Alpha male (me) in the pack, undying loyalty to the pack, and same genetically as wolves. Did yo know that Chimps and humans have 99.5%+ similar genes? But not so with parakeets.
28 posted on 08/09/2011 9:39:04 PM PDT by repub4ever1 (Capitalism is not perfect, but it beats all other systems hands down.)
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To: repub4ever1
Evolution is not a magic show

By a process of random trial and error, with many swooshes of the magic chance fairy's sparkly natural selection wand, banana-eating monkeys accidentally learned how to drive, prove the quadratic residue theorem, and build cathedrals.

Did yo know that Chimps and humans have 99.5%+ similar genes?

Well then chimp chess players should on average fall only 1% short of human ELO ratings.

But not so with parakeets.

So what's the point? That parakeets didn't evolve? That they came from outer space?

29 posted on 08/09/2011 10:02:11 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: CynicalBear; repub4ever1
If humans can evolve wolves into domesticated dogs of various appearances in 10,000 years

When the wolf becomes a parakeet we can talk.

If you dissect and study the soft tissue anatomy of a parakeet, you can recognize most of the soft tissue anatomy of a wolf.

If you study the skeleatal anatomy of a parakeet, you have essentially learned the skeletal anatomy of a wolf.

Compared to, say, a crab or a snail or clam, a parakeet and a wolf are almost the same animal with only minor changes.


30 posted on 08/09/2011 11:21:20 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius

Pretty good summary comparison. I am impressed!


31 posted on 08/09/2011 11:24:07 PM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; repub4ever1
Did you know that Chimps and humans have 99.5%+ similar genes? .... repub4ever1

Well then chimp chess players should on average fall only 1% short of human ELO ratings. ..... Ethan Clive Osgoode

The belief that ... POOF ... God created fully formed human beings 6,000 years ago is a belief that is confined to Protestant Fundamentalists that constitute only 20% of all American voters.

Most Christians, including all Catholics, are taught that, while God was the driving force behind Creation, how God decided to make Man was up to God. That is the position that Perry is taking.

It is statements like your chess statement, Ethan, that make the Creationist dogmatists sound silly.

Give an Intel manufacturing plant the blueprint for a microprocessor with 0.5% of the data missing from the blueprint, Ethan, and tell us how well your computer runs with the resulting CPU.

When the blueprints for Deep Blue's microprocessors are missing 0.5% of their data, that does not reduce Deep Blue's ELO by one half of one percent .... That makes Deep Blue totally nonfunctional as a chess tool.


32 posted on 08/10/2011 12:01:28 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

On a serious note, Chimps did not evolve directly into humans. There were innumerable mutations in between. The Java man, Australopithecus, Lucy the Hominid, Neanderthals, and whole bunch of other species which branched off, evolved and eventually the modern man appeared some 100,000+ years ago.

Some species such as crocodiles & great white sharks did not evolve much in million years because they have little trouble surviving. Only the intelligent hominids could escape from being eaten by lions & tigers and with every generation the smarter ones were able to pass on the genes.


33 posted on 08/10/2011 12:03:56 AM PDT by repub4ever1 (Capitalism is not perfect, but it beats all other systems hands down.)
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To: repub4ever1
Chimps did not evolve directly into humans. There were innumerable mutations in between. The Java man, Australopithecus, Lucy the Hominid, Neanderthals, and whole bunch of other species which branched off, evolved and eventually the modern man appeared some 100,000+ years ago.

In other words, chimps accidentally changed into chess-masters, with some accidental steps in between.

34 posted on 08/10/2011 2:38:37 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Polybius
When the blueprints for Deep Blue's microprocessors are missing 0.5% of their data, that does not reduce Deep Blue's ELO by one half of one percent .... That makes Deep Blue totally nonfunctional as a chess tool.

Indeed, it would be as useless at chess as a refridgerator or washing machine. And who can believe that a washing machine can change into a mechanical grandmaster by a sequence of fortunate accidents? Why, it's just about as plausible as a monkey changing into grandmaster by trial and error. Who in their right mind would believe that a chimp is but 0.5% away beating Garry Kasparov? Only those who are noted for believing in the nonsensical, i.e., Darwinians.

35 posted on 08/10/2011 2:51:21 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: iowamark

your description is the exact opposite of the truth. (You lie!) Give sources or retract.

Perry has always been extremely pro-life, pro-traditional marriage and against amnesty for illegal aliens.


36 posted on 08/10/2011 2:59:01 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: hocndoc

You need to do some reading on Free Republic. As recently as last month, Perry was claiming that the 10th Amendment protected abortion and same-sex marriage(!), a claim that would have been quite a shock to the Founders. He has also many, many times opposed any serious enforcement action against the flood of illegals.


37 posted on 08/10/2011 3:15:06 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

Have you been to all the pro-life rallies that the Governor has attended? Have you received help from Governor Perry when you needed to pass a pro-life, pro-family, or pro-business bill? I have.

Governor Palin has received a bit of criticism on this board for her stated opinion that abortion would go back to the States if Roe were overturned. She’s right unless, as Governor Perry notes about marriage, we can get an Amendment to the Constitution. Both Palin and Perry would back these amendments.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2395379/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2291242/posts

Along with Governor Palin, Governor Perry correctly states that under the 10th Amendment, all powers not expressly given to the Federal government belong to the States and the people.

Until there’s a Constitutional Amendment, just as the States may decide the difference between 1st and 2nd degree murder, capital murder, etc., the regulation of abortion would go back to the States if R v. W were overturned.

By the same token, our the Governor has fought for our State’s Defense of Marriage and the State Constitutional amendment passed in 2005. He’s supported Bill after Bill to limit abortion in Texas and to protect minors from the consequences of Roe.

As to his efforts against illegal immigration, his record is also strong:

Perry has always advocated for “boots on the ground” at the border, but has been unable to get the Feds to send the manpower. He’s advocated for letting the military practice the use of unmanned Predator aircraft along our border (they’ve gotta practice somewhere” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEHDDktDn8o )
There are National Guard troops on the Border. Perry has repeatedly asked for more and recently won approval for the 1200 (we only got about 250) that have been deployed to stay longer.
from a year ago: http://www.texastribune.org/texas-mexico-border-news/texas-mexico-border/national-guard-arrives-in-texas-aug-1/
The result of the Governor alerting the Texas Republican Congressman about Obama’s plan to remove the National Guard after less than 6 months: http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/2010/11/texas-republicans-protest-plan-move-national-guard-troops-border
News from last month about the extension: http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/06/president-obama-extends-national-guard-deployments-in-texas/


38 posted on 08/10/2011 3:36:04 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: repub4ever1

Your example is incorrect. Wolves (Canines) were adapted to our purposes into dogs (Canines).

We have not taken a bear and changed it into a non-bear, or taken wild goats and changed them into something not-goat.

Adaptation is real, evolution, not so much.


39 posted on 08/10/2011 8:42:56 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: Tucker39

Well said Tucker


40 posted on 08/10/2011 8:44:31 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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