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Rick Perry: Rhinestone Cowboy
08/12/2011 | Brices Crossroads

Posted on 08/12/2011 9:56:32 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads

Rick Perry is rapidly becoming known as a politician who talks a good game, but whose actions belie his words. Last year, he waved the bloody shirt of secession, which horrified the New York Times...until they dug deeper and found that Perry wasn't just talking about seceding. He was aiming to hook up with Mexico in order to fulfill his "shared with [Mexican President] Vincente Fox for open borders." Seriously, though, Perry is becoming a caricature of himself. He first waved the tenth Amendment on gay marriage and abortion, first supporting the interpretations that states should be responsible for defining marriage and related issues, and in a flip-flop worthy of Mitt Romney, came out in favor of a federal constitutional amendment to ban both.

Perry's open borders positions tell us that he is not a conservative. His political pan-gyrations on gay marriage, abortion, and the Tenth Amendment suggest he is not reliable there either, but would trim his sails at the slightest pressure.

Well, he must be good on something. How would he handle judicial appointments, for example. Bear in mind that in Texas, in contrast to states such as Alaska (where a Commission presents the Governor with three choices from which he or she MUST select a Judge), the Texas Governor has pretty much unfettered control of the appointments process to fill judicial vacancies. In a conservative state like Texas, it would be easy to remake the courts in a conservative mold. In fact, it would almost follow de facto, since the appointed justices must face election state wide. No doubt Perry will try to take credit for the relatively conservative state of the Texas judiciary as he has done with the Texas economy when the relative health of both has been more in spite of, than because of, Rick Perry.

I have not done an exhaustive study of Perry's judicial appointments, although undoubtedly conservatives in Texas would have done so. I found one particular judicial appointment, the subsequent election, and Perry's reaction to it to be most instructive about his orientation toward strong judicial conservatives.

In 2001, one of Perry's first selections to succeed the staunchly conservative Greg Abbot (who had been elected Attorney General) was Xavier Rodriguez, a self-described moderate. In trying to move the Texas Supreme Court to the left, he drew the ire of conservatives in Texas. An up and coming young conservative, Steven Wayne Smith stepped forward to challenge Rodriguez. Smith, who was superbly qualified, had argued and won the landmark 1996 case of Hopwood v. Texas which successfully challenged affirmative action at the University of Texas Law School. In effect, he was a hero to conservatives in Texas and an anathema to the Establishment. The Establishment, including Perry and John Cornyn, no doubt detested Smith for dismantling affirmative action at the UT Law School. But when Smith stepped forward to challenge a self proclaimed moderate appointment of Perry, who happened to be Hispanic, that was the last straw. Perry and his cronies in the Establishment did all they could to stop Smith but he prevailed over Rodriguez easily and was in stalled as a justice of the Texas Supreme Court.

In 2004, Perry encouraged a challenger to run against Smith. The Establishment lined up with Cornyn and Perry on one side and the Texas Eagle Forum,Kent Hance and Ward Connerly on the other. This time the Establishment prevailed and Smith was defeated. He attempted a comeback in 2006, but Perry recruited another challenger, less conservative than Smith, and he lost by less than 1%.

Perry's actions, and his vindictive crusade against an up and coming conservative legal superstar, suggest that a Perry Presidency would be more likely to yield David Souters and Harriet Miers than Antonin Scalias and Clarence Thomases. When it comes to Rick Perry, the message to the Federalist Society and constitutional conservatives is caveat emptor.


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To: Brices Crossroads
First , Seek mental help .

Tired old Rhino smear has been over used and useless now.

BUT Who are you working for/ astroturfing for ??????

51 posted on 08/12/2011 10:44:48 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: RowdyFFC

I didn’t dis perry. I asked if the story was true. I don’t know. I will research it, but I thought you guys would have some kind of answer since you jumped on here so fast to take personal shots at brices crossroads.
Is the Smith story true or not? That’s all. Zot your own self. That is ridiculous.
BTW, if and when I decide to dis Perry, you will darn sure know it, and it will be with facts, not innuendo, and it won’t be because he didn’t get his fair hearing either.
Everything that has been said about Perry, pro or con, I have done my own research on and I am still thinking on it. Now go and sin no more.


52 posted on 08/12/2011 10:46:41 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: SZonian
If you had been keeping up, you would know there have been many refuting the *bucket carriers*

Truth is, this has been going on for some time now and it's getting seriously monotonous.

53 posted on 08/12/2011 10:47:43 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: SoConPubbie

Why are you asking me?


54 posted on 08/12/2011 10:48:03 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Didn't you ASTROTURF NON STOP against Meg Whitman and Help Get Jerry Brown and the Dems take over Calif ???

Have you been directed to trash and attack Perry NOW ?

If your trashing him then Perry is a threat to the Dems power grip !

55 posted on 08/12/2011 10:49:01 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Nervous Tick

Sarah is, at this moment, attending the Iowa State Fair. Maybe you should tell HER she isn’t running. Hmmm?


56 posted on 08/12/2011 10:49:25 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Brices Crossroads
Perry has some answering to do on immigration, but this "open borders" quote is fast making the rounds for those looking to torpedo Perry before he gets in the race.

The full quote in context means something different altogether:

"President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity. Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues. " Wednesday, August 22, 2001

57 posted on 08/12/2011 10:50:45 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: MestaMachine

>> Sarah is, at this moment, attending the Iowa State Fair.

AWell, Sarah and 10,000 other people are attending the fair. Not sure what you can read into it.

Besides, she’s a political reporter and pundit. Where would you expect her to be?


58 posted on 08/12/2011 10:51:53 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

uh huh. ROFL


59 posted on 08/12/2011 10:54:35 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Brices Crossroads

Analysis: “No question, Perry is shaking up the race”

The Texas governor with fancy boots and a swagger to match has caught the imagination of many Republicans dissatisfied with the longer-standing field of hopefuls, particularly in a year they see as a rare opportunity to take on an incumbent president with voters worried over their jobs, their investments and the country’s economic future.

“No question, (Rick) Perry is shaking up the race,” said Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. “Since the beginning of the year, we’ve expected somebody else to jump in since many Republicans were unhappy about the field. Now we know who is filling the void.”
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Perry's boots named "Liberty" and "Freedom"


60 posted on 08/12/2011 10:54:45 AM PDT by deport ( In Texas it's hotter than two goats fighting in a jalapeno patch.)
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To: GunRunner
You should realize the entire Texas GOP is held hostage by Big AG and TWO HUGE Grocery store owners in TX.
Perry or anyone else needs tons of money to take them on and win those battles. The local GOP are stuck because of them.
Its sad.
61 posted on 08/12/2011 10:56:53 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: drypowder
Someone needs to ask Mr. Perry, a simple rancher and state governor, what it is that made him worthy of getting invited to one of their meetings.

He is Governor of the 15th largest economy in the world.

62 posted on 08/12/2011 10:57:48 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Nothing against Gov. Perry but the ONLY candidate I’ll enthusiastically support is Gov. Sarah Palin.


63 posted on 08/12/2011 10:57:58 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: wolfcreek

Regardless of how “monotonous” it may be getting for some,
I don’t have entire days to “keep up” with all that’s presented on FR.

That’s why I asked for those who are demonstrating against the OP and any who even give the appearance of support to the information, to offer rebuttal information if the OP’s comments are/were off the mark.

The OP gave me his POV, which I will research since it appears none here are ready or willing to provide a factual or relevant rebuttal.


64 posted on 08/12/2011 10:59:34 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: SoConPubbie

You don’t know chit about it so why do you keep running with it.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Steven_Wayne_Smith

Maybe Smith lost because he wasn’t what he said he was.

Hopwood v. Texas

“Smith was an attorney in the controversial Hopwood v. TexasHopwood v. Texas
In the early 1990s, Smith filed a lawsuit against the University of Texas School of Law on behalf of white applicants, including Cheryl Hopwood, who argued they had been denied entry because the school used affirmative action to bolster minority enrollment. The case was decided in favor of the students and Smith later trumped that success during his campaigns. Smith’s opponents and many newspapers attacked him for this success. His campaign manager, David Rogers, was one of the Hopwood plaintiffs.”


65 posted on 08/12/2011 11:01:33 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2762799/posts?page=1

woohoo! V is for......


66 posted on 08/12/2011 11:03:17 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: MestaMachine

lol, just dig deep then...when you are looking at the Gardasil incident, dig very very deep. One, into the make up of the Texas legislature in 2007 and the changes they made in all the education bill while they got the chance to muck ruck around in it. Every time democrats open up a bill on one issue, they use that excuse to pluck around in the whole piece of legislation.

When you start digging around about the Trans Texas Corridor, first understand that it was legislated by the US Congress, not Rick Perry, and that it is being built today because the US Congress ordered it, not Rick Perry. And if you want to knnow what his thinking was, ask me. I was on the ad hoc committe from my county. I sat in a meeting with Rick Perry who explained exactly what his thinking was originally and the problems he ran into AFTER the design.


67 posted on 08/12/2011 11:04:05 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC; All
Hey huckleberry, Perry's got a Muslim problem too.

Defend THIS:

[Governor Rick Perry] Commemorating the [Muslim Leader] Aga Khan's Visit (April 12, 2008)

68 posted on 08/12/2011 11:04:33 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: JohnBrownUSA; Quill Pen; The Iceman Cometh; Norm Lenhart; Springfield Reformer; ...

(((((PING)))))


69 posted on 08/12/2011 11:06:02 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: SZonian

I’ve posted this on another thread, but you may not have seen it so here is my take on Perry.

Perry’s support of Giuliani alone should be a deal killer for any conservative looking for a candidate.

Giuliani is pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-amnesty, anti-Bill of Rights, and he is corrupt. In fact he would be in jail except his crimes were uncovered after the statutes of limitations had run out.

On top of all of that, Giuliani’s wife had to get a court order to keep him from bringing his strumpet into the family home. His wife and kids first found out he was filing for a divorce when he announced it in a press conference.

ANYONE who would support someone like Giuliani for elected office does not have the judgement to be president.


70 posted on 08/12/2011 11:06:44 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Give up on the Perry hate.


71 posted on 08/12/2011 11:08:20 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: ncalburt
Didn't you ASTROTURF NON STOP against Meg Whitman and Help Get Jerry Brown and the Dems take over Calif ???

No, I pointed out what a horrible candidate Meg Whitman was for her support of tax-payer funded abortion

Your approval of any GOP candidate no matter how bad they are just highlights my problem with some Perry supporters.

They operate from a position of fear of losing to Obama, vs. finding a GOOD conservative candidate.
72 posted on 08/12/2011 11:08:31 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: deport

73 posted on 08/12/2011 11:09:03 AM PDT by luckybogey
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

And this is a problem, why?


74 posted on 08/12/2011 11:10:54 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC

I have, and I have also been asking Texans on this board for their opinions as well. It’s about split. The ONE BIG THING that has made me a little more than queasy is his affiliation with the head honcho muslim, aga khan. THAT bothers me. A LOT.
My FAVORITE Texan said he would prefer Perry to stay in Texas, not be president, because Texans have kept him under control. Not my words. His. I took that to heart. Is that wrong?


75 posted on 08/12/2011 11:11:50 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: RowdyFFC
You didn't read his speech did you?

If you did, then you agree with his pandering to Muslims and promoting multiculturalism?

76 posted on 08/12/2011 11:12:32 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: SZonian
Sorry if I came off a bit gruff. I'm getting sick of these sound byte/innuendo driven Perry-haters constantly hijacking these threads.

From looking at you profile, I notice you and Gov. Perry share some things.

He was a pilot in the USAF and a Scout. Even wrote a book about Scouts.

http://www.dallasvoice.com/gov-rick-perry-defends-boy-scouts-in-new-book-1023924.html

Please do take the time and research Rick Perry to make your judgment.

77 posted on 08/12/2011 11:15:19 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: GunRunner

To my knowledge, no California governor has ever been invited so why would Perry? Maybe his invite had something to do with the 2 mile wide super highway and rail system from Mexico to Canada that he supports.


78 posted on 08/12/2011 11:15:45 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: ncalburt

Really? Who are the 2 HUge Grocerystore and Big Ag owners?


79 posted on 08/12/2011 11:18:59 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: SoConPubbie
It doesn't exonerate him and I never claimed it did. Perry supported who he thought was the best pick and that appears to have been a mistake. Sandra Day O'Connor was also a moderate and turned out, imho, to be a mistake. If what I read is true, this guy Smith (good guy) won by a substantial margin against Rodriguez (bad guy) during the primary in 2001. In 2004, Smith (good guy) lost in the primary to Paul Green (?). Clearly, the voters rejected Perry's candidate in 2001. For some reason though, these same voters chose not to support Smith just three years later. Maybe there's more to the story than the originator of this thread is offering.

Some folks are working pretty damn hard to demonize Rick Perry. I'm as skeptical of them as I am of any of the Republican candidates. Our country is on the express train into the sewer, and taking our liberty with it, so I'm not fixated on -- or frothing at the mouth over -- Gardasil, a superhighway and one judicial appointment. I'm still learning about Rick Perry and haven't made any decisions as to whom to support in the presidential primary, however, relying on input from people who can't keep these issues in perspective is probably not the best way to learn about Perry's position on important issues like illegal immigration, economic policy, national defense, the defense of life and the war on our culture.

80 posted on 08/12/2011 11:20:14 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: drypowder

Or maybe it’s because he’s Governor of the 15th largest economy. The Corridor project is dead, so I don’t understand harping on it.


81 posted on 08/12/2011 11:22:52 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: ncalburt

Ignore post #79. I thought I was reading from another poster..


82 posted on 08/12/2011 11:23:00 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Brices Crossroads

bttt - thanks for the info.


83 posted on 08/12/2011 11:29:26 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: lone star annie

We all have the right, and with certainty the respossibility to vet these candidates. I for one want to know the good and the bad and all in between. Some of it will fall along the wayside, some will likely stand shoulder to shoulder with other candidates....but I want to know.

I have a serious problem woth Perry’s stand on the border issues...and I have read the posts of those supporting him and am still unconvinced that when push comes to shove he will vote for whatever the moment dictates to him his politically necessary....but his history isn’t at all encouraging. He does not approve of closed borders. So that’s a strike against him for my vote.

Further, and I’m still researching, why is it he is chumming up with Imans....encouraging students learn about Islam etc. This is definately a most serious issues to me. Further he is just seemingly too cozy with Islamic leadership....puts a very bad taste in my mouth. I will not vote for those who cater to the Islamic agenda.


84 posted on 08/12/2011 11:29:54 AM PDT by caww
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To: Mase
Some folks are working pretty damn hard to demonize Rick Perry.

I think it's mostly the Palin crowd, but there's a whole different group of people who are getting pretty nasty about it. I got called some nasty names last night by some non-Palin people for suggesting that Perry might be a good candidate, so there's something else going on.

It's funny to see people dredging up quotes from 2001, Bilderberg, and the Trans-Texas Corridor as if they've just stumbled on some new super secret insider information. He's been our Governor for over a decade, so there's not anything Perry attackers are pulling out that we haven't already heard before.

I've never been a huge fan, but I think he might be the right guy at the right time to beat Obama if he can make the right policy shifts. I've never called him anything but a politician, but he very well may make a good President.

On the other hand, he could be a lousy President. But if Freepers here would rather elect Obama because of Gardisil and the Trans-Texas Corridor, then go right ahead. I'm voting for Perry if he gets the nod.

85 posted on 08/12/2011 11:31:23 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: MestaMachine
For what it's worth...

Gov. Perry Receives Defender of Jerusalem Award

86 posted on 08/12/2011 11:37:43 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: caww
He does not approve of closed borders. So that’s a strike against him for my vote.

Don't be fooled by the 'open borders' quote that is making the rounds. If you read it in context as I posted it above, it means something entirely different.

Has it escaped everyone's memory that Perry confronted President Obama on the airport tarmac in Austin and tried to personally deliver a letter asking for help on border security? There's a lot of disinformation out there:

http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2010/08/10/obama-declines-accept-rick-perrys-letter

Gov. Rick Perry's meeting at the Austin airport with President Barack Obama on border security lasted a mere 34 seconds, and Perry had to hand a letter on the issue to presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett because Obama declined to personally accept it.

That did not dissuade the governor from inviting Obama to come back to Texas and tour the border with him to get a first hand look at what Perry describes as the threat from Mexican drug cartels.

"Look, he's got the letter. I suspect he'll read it. I hope he responds to it," Perry said. "This is way past partisanship or politics."

Perry said Obama's decision to send 1,200 troops to the entire border with Mexico was inadequate, particularly since only 286 are coming to Texas.

Perry said he would like a substantial meeting with Obama to discuss the need for 1,000 National Guard troops until 3,000 Border Patrol agents can be trained to take over.

"We need a substantial amount of boots on the ground. We need the technology in the air. The predator drones. The other technologies we've talked about: night vision equipment, cameras, motion-detecting equipment," Perry said.

The governor said immigration reform is "a waste of effort until you secure the border."

87 posted on 08/12/2011 11:41:01 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Just because I love you, I’m gonna let you slide on this one and put it in the pro column for Perry, But I got to tell ya...THIS:
“The first award was presented to Israeli President Shimon Peres.”
pretty much negates the award altogether. I thought they should have hung peres years and years ago for treason.


89 posted on 08/12/2011 11:52:56 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: GunRunner
I think it's mostly the Palin crowd...

I'm a big fan of Palin, but with Perry in the race, I don't believe she's running. Also, and from what I've read, Palin has been highly supportive of Perry.

but there's a whole different group of people who are getting pretty nasty about it.

This is what I don't understand. Perry just entered the race and these same people claim they only want to vet the candidate and that there's nothing wrong with debating the pros and cons. Can't argue with that except that the vitriol from these same folks belies their claims that this is all about debate and objective vetting. It isn't, and you're right about there being something more. People are going to do what they're going to do but, in my opinion, it makes anything they say worthy of suspicion and that only makes the truth all that harder to find.

The end result is that any Perry thread posted will be negative or dominated by these same folks. And who wants to put up with that crap?

I want to win in 2012 and I want to do it with the most conservative candidate possible, but I also want someone who can defeat the Marxist with a $1 billion war chest. Getting caught up in defunct highway projects, the dispensing of vaccines, Bildabetterburger, hair styles and one court appointee is exactly what the liberals would like us to do. I'm far too serious about taking our country back from those intent on destroying it to get wound up in a bunch of BS like that. It's good to know that there are others who see it the same way.

90 posted on 08/12/2011 12:09:33 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: MestaMachine

Well, consider this. Imam Aga Khan is NOT Imam Sayyid Ali Khamenei of Iran. He is a businessman out of Bahrain who does business with Exxon/Mobil of Texas which has helped us keep our gasoline prices in Texas lower than most every body elses since about forever.

Number two, Imam Aga Khan has used his development company to establish houses of education and allows women to participate because he believes the more educated women are, the more respect they will get in the Islamic world. He uses his wealth to build health service for his people. He’s also established micro-finance institutions for women in Northern Pakistan which they have had in Bahrain for years.

If, and I say, IF, very cynically, there is something of a more ‘moderate’ Islam, Imam Khan is representative of it. Simply because he’s a businessman first, before he’s an Imam.

Rick Perry is the Governor of our state, they were building a mosque in Houston which is in his state and invited him. Had he turned them down, what would that have accomplished. If he stood up dissed all of Islam while he was there what would that have accomplished, especially in the face of what this lone Imam is trying to do within his world to make a more prosperous and educated population in it, instead of an ignorant bunch of people mired only in their dogma. This Imam, whose programs Perry had visited, and Governor Perry both know that business is what makes a capitalist world go round.


91 posted on 08/12/2011 12:10:35 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: SoConPubbie
Sad; they just simply can't be honest and admit their guy has warts just like every other candidate, instead they go on extremely biased and dishonest rants about anyone that dares points out some of the obvious flaws in their candidates' history.

Then you simply aren't paying attention. Most of the people I've read supporting Perry, including myself, acknowledge he has flaws. You can hardly be unaware of them with some of the attacks that have been hurled.

He's no Reagan and he's not an ideal conservative but he's certainly more conservative than Romney and he may be the best chance to beat Obama.

But go right ahead with your dishonesty. It's typical of the haters.

92 posted on 08/12/2011 12:11:51 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Yes, I read his speech praising Imam Aga Khan, NOT ISLAM. And this is my response to YOU as well:

Well, consider this. Imam Aga Khan is NOT Imam Sayyid Ali Khamenei of Iran. He is a businessman out of Bahrain who does business with Exxon/Mobil of Texas which has helped us keep our gasoline prices in Texas lower than most every body elses since about forever.

Number two, Imam Aga Khan has used his development company to establish houses of education and allows women to participate because he believes the more educated women are, the more respect they will get in the Islamic world. He uses his wealth to build health service for his people. He’s also established micro-finance institutions for women in Northern Pakistan which they have had in Bahrain for years.

If, and I say, IF, very cynically, there is something of a more ‘moderate’ Islam, Imam Khan is representative of it. Simply because he’s a businessman first, before he’s an Imam.

Rick Perry is the Governor of our state, they were building a mosque in Houston which is in his state and invited him. Had he turned them down, what would that have accomplished. If he stood up dissed all of Islam while he was there what would that have accomplished, especially in the face of what this lone Imam is trying to do within his world to make a more prosperous and educated population in it, instead of an ignorant bunch of people mired only in their dogma. This Imam, whose programs Perry had visited, and Governor Perry both know that business is what makes a capitalist world go round.


93 posted on 08/12/2011 12:14:16 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Nobody in Texas has a problem with our Governor acting like a LEADER in his role as an international host. Why does a person In Virginia?

He didn’t say anything about accepting Sharia or anything.


94 posted on 08/12/2011 12:14:16 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: RowdyFFC

Read more better. There is a history with Perry and aga khan..and others... that goes way back. Before the mosque. And it begs the question. Why would Perry make the kind of refutable statements about islam’s wonderful contributions in the building of America which are blatantly false, provably and indeniably false. See, there is where the wheels go off the track. You can DO business. Why pander at the expense of your country’s history? Especially where it concerns islam?


95 posted on 08/12/2011 12:18:48 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Mase
Thanks for the post, Mase.

Many of us share in your wanting to win this country back from the boy Marxist and his progressive minions.

I too feel Gov. Perry has the best chance to accomplish just that but, it will take a concerted effort from ALL Conservative voters and then some.

96 posted on 08/12/2011 12:20:51 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Mase
I don't know what's happening. Some jackass freeper went off and called me a liberal and all sorts of names for giving Perry the benefit of the doubt and for calling this person on that out of context "open borders" quote.

He claims all sorts of people from Texas are giving him the inside dope, and that I'm an idiot for even contemplating support for him.

Maybe these people legitimately do think Perry is pro-illegal immigration and a big government liberal, I don't know. He's a politician for sure, but nothing like what's being parroted around here.

97 posted on 08/12/2011 12:24:46 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: MestaMachine

This is getting ridiculous. Who is feeding you this stuff? Is your goal in spreading trash about Perry to get another GOP candidate elected, or do they truly believe this stuff up in Pennsylvania?


98 posted on 08/12/2011 12:27:21 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: RowdyFFC
Had he turned them down, what would that have accomplished. If he stood up dissed all of Islam while he was there what would that have accomplished, especially in the face of what this lone Imam is trying to do within his world to make a more prosperous and educated population in it, instead of an ignorant bunch of people mired only in their dogma.

So you've turned Muzzie, or just dhimmi?

99 posted on 08/12/2011 12:31:08 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: GunRunner

So far, I am still doing research on Perry. I think he is a good politician. That said, being a politician, if that is all you are, is not my preferred prerequisite.


100 posted on 08/12/2011 12:31:33 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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