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Can Anyone Tell Me The Difference Between Rick Perry & John McCain on Immigration? (Vanity)
Just wondering ^ | August 14, 2011 | DrewsMum

Posted on 08/14/2011 12:20:37 PM PDT by DrewsMum

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To: freejohn

Thanks for the compliment and am glad to have help educate you.


41 posted on 08/14/2011 1:10:05 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Rick Perry, Democrat Chairman for Al Gore's 1988 TX Presidential Campaign)
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To: DrewsMum

“Perry’s stance against Texas adopting an Arizona-style immigration law was initially troubling to many conservatives even though his point was that it would be better to force the federal government to enforce the border since that is one of their primary responsibilities.

A true statement, but one easier said than done.

He did add a bill prohibiting Sanctuary Cities as an emergency item in the regular session and added it to the call during the special session, but there wasnÂ’t enough resolve in either the legislature or the Governor to overcome the business lobby that was adamantly against the bill. It died in the last special session.

It was disappointing to conservatives that the Governor didn’t call another special session to continue the fight, but he maintains that It would have been a waste of taxpayer money to call another special session on an issue that lawmakers would not take action to pass – twice.

The governor says that he will continue to support the prohibition of sanctuary cities in the future.

Some have said that when Perry said that the Arizona law “wasn’t the right direction for Texas,” he was taking a position against strict enforcement of immigration laws.

Not so – what he actually said was, “I fully recognize and support a state’s right and obligation to protect its citizens, but I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas.”

His concern was related to the portion of the Arizona law that required peace officers to inquire about citizenship status. Perry believes that the best solution is to allow officers the discretion to ask if they deem it necessary to carry out their duty.

“Texas has a rich history with Mexico, our largest trading partner, and we share more than 1,200 miles of border, more than any other state,” Perry said.

“As the debate on immigration reform intensifies, the focus must remain on border security and the federal government’s failure to adequately protect our borders. Securing our border is a federal responsibility, but it is a Texas problem, and it must be addressed before comprehensive immigration reform is discussed.

” Texas has allocated more than $400 million in state funding to secure the border since 2005. In the last legislative session alone, $152 million was earmarked for border security.

Perry has also adopted the National GovernorÂ’s Policy, part of which states:

â– Federal immigration policies should ensure that new immigrants do not become a public charge to federal, state, or local governments.

â– The federal government must provide adequate information to and consult with states on issues concerning immigration decisions that affect the states.

â– States should not have to incur significant costs in implementing federal laws regarding immigration status as a condition of benefits.

In the final analysis, Governor Perry says that the nation cannot have effective immigration policy until the border is secure. Today, the border is not secure and this is where we need to focus our resources.”

The above taken from an article “Seventeen (17_ things that critics are saying about Rick Perry.” It is item number 15.

You may find the article here: http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/rick-perrys-negatives/

As a native Texan, I have some reservations about Perry, but I would clearly support him over four more years of “President Downgrade.”


42 posted on 08/14/2011 1:10:14 PM PDT by LOC1 (Let's pick the best, not settle for a compromise.)
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To: DrewsMum

Other than Perry has “talked” a good game, not a damned thing as far as I can see.


43 posted on 08/14/2011 1:11:44 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: lonestar

Why is it that Gov. Perry in his statement, failed to mentions that he not only advocates granting In-State Tuition to Illegal Aliens, but he signed legislation that does exactly that?


44 posted on 08/14/2011 1:12:08 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: magritte

“Ah, got it. Someone else on the thread indicated it was only anchor babies, not “actual” illegals...do you know if that it true?”

That is complete BS.

An “Anchor Baby” is a US citizen and will get In-State Tuition in Texas or any other state they reside.

In Texas, Illegal Aliens can attend the public universities by simply paying the Texas Tax Payer supported In-State Tuition.


45 posted on 08/14/2011 1:16:06 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: lonestar

It looks more and more to me like Perry is ALL OVER the map on illegals. I dont trust him, AT ALL. He does ALOT of pandering for one. If I cant determine where the man stands, I aint voting for him.


46 posted on 08/14/2011 1:16:40 PM PDT by allsouthern
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To: trumandogz
Rick Perry signed legislation granting In-State Tuition for public universities to Illegal Aliens.

I'm a Texan and I have no problem with it if they meet all the other requirements.

They go to public schools and pay nothing and we're supposed to be upset if they don't pay out of state tuition to go to college!?...when they have lived in TX all or most of their lives!

This is much ado about nothing, IMO, by people looking hard to find fault. There are worse things to worry about!

47 posted on 08/14/2011 1:17:54 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: DrewsMum
Can Anyone Tell Me The Difference Between Rick Perry & John McCain on Immigration?

This is a bit disingenuous for somebody who seems to have all the answers, don't you think?

48 posted on 08/14/2011 1:23:44 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

“They go to public schools and pay nothing and we’re supposed to be upset if they don’t pay out of state tuition to go to college!?...when they have lived in TX all or most of their lives!”

How do you know they have all lived in Texas most of their lives?


49 posted on 08/14/2011 1:25:11 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: allsouthern

I’m not asking for your vote so I don’t care who you vote for!


50 posted on 08/14/2011 1:25:47 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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The Reagan comparison is specious. Reagan was told that it would be a one-time-only proposition and would be followed with real border enforcement in the future. Any amnesties since then have been with full knowledge that the democrats lied and will never stop asking for more and more amnesties for their illegals future voters, so it’s an apples and oranges comparison.

We need enforcement of every single one of our immigration laws until the illegals get the message and self-deport. That’ll solve the problem. Amnesty and ‘reform’ won’t fix anything other than making us resemble a sewer called Mehico Norte.


51 posted on 08/14/2011 1:26:40 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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To: trumandogz

State university are subsidized by the tax payers. The illegals get a cut in tuition, maybe if THEY had to pay out of state taxes like other Americans, we could not have to pay so much with our tax dollars that could be put to use in other ways. LIKE LEAVE IT IN OUR POCKETS to pay for our own AMERICAN children’s educations.


52 posted on 08/14/2011 1:28:28 PM PDT by DrewsMum ("I abandoned free market principles to save the free market." -GWBush)
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To: magritte

Illegal aliens do NOT get free tuition in Texas. That’s part of the lies these guys are spewing. There is in-state tuition and out-of-state tuition. If you are from Kuwait and want to go to a Texas university, you pay out-of-state tuition. If you attended a Texas public school and lived in Texas for at least 3 years, you pay in-state tuition, regardless of citizenship. Illegal fall into that category. They pay the same rate as other Texans. Perry apparently believes educated Mexicans running around Texas are better than uneducated Mexicans. I have to agree.


53 posted on 08/14/2011 1:29:38 PM PDT by DRey
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To: LOC1

thank you


54 posted on 08/14/2011 1:30:47 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: trumandogz

I don’t. But to qualify for the instate tuition they must graduate with their last three years in a TX high school...so I know they will have attended at least three years in TX public schools...paying nothing!


55 posted on 08/14/2011 1:32:03 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: DRey

thank you


56 posted on 08/14/2011 1:32:21 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: DrewsMum

McCain talked a lot, never did anything....

Perry thought a fence would not work for Texas, he placed TDPS Troopers & other Law Enforcement on the border after Obama and the Government failed to protect Texas. You cam put McCain in the Government bunch that failed.


57 posted on 08/14/2011 1:40:43 PM PDT by Chief901 (Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend)
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To: lonestar

If it is such a great Perry policy, why doesn’t Perry promote his policy of providing in-state tuition to illegal aliens?


58 posted on 08/14/2011 1:41:08 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: lonestar

So, I’ve researched the subject and haven’t found hardly ANY differences in McCain and Perry. Sooooooo.....I post a thread and ask if anyone knows. What the heck is wrong with that? Asking FR and others who may know something I don’t is a bad thing? Do you only depend on yourself for all your knowledge?

As far as me having all the answers. I am not seeing any DIFFERENCES mentioned here....only similarities and I already knew those.... So your theory is you can only ask a question of someone about a subject you know NOTHING about???


59 posted on 08/14/2011 1:41:57 PM PDT by DrewsMum ("I abandoned free market principles to save the free market." -GWBush)
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To: lonestar

But to go give 13 million people a citizenship because you came here illegally is … is … Asinine!”

As Ron White says, “That’ll shut her up”!


60 posted on 08/14/2011 1:49:38 PM PDT by Recon Dad ("Don't shoot fast, unless you also shoot good..")
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