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Palin Interview to Univision
Univision ^ | 2 weeks before 2008 election

Posted on 08/15/2011 5:20:37 AM PDT by normy

Governor, let me ask you about immigration. How many undocumented immigrants are there in Alaska? I don't know, I don't know. That's a good question.

As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported? There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant -there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants- not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants? No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants? I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.


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Now can we start concentrating on beating Obama instead of projecting our own beliefs onto a candidate? Perry is the man to back as the over all best candidate.
1 posted on 08/15/2011 5:20:41 AM PDT by normy
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To: normy

Not in my world..he gives me the creeps..he looks like another DC insider..had enough of them sorry.


2 posted on 08/15/2011 5:23:21 AM PDT by GregB (I am moving to Palinland!!!)
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To: normy
Damn! A common sense answer! And one that would work if some politician would get off their a$$ and begin the process.

Will wonders never cease?

3 posted on 08/15/2011 5:23:44 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: All

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,592942,00.html

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, now, I know that your past as governor of Alaska didn’t — was not the same time that Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona has gotten into office, but I assume that sort of governor to governor...
PALIN: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: What’s your thought on the heat that she’s taking over this statute?
PALIN: I’m proud of Jan Brewer for standing up for the constituents in her state, sending a message to Washington, sending a message to President Obama saying, Hey, you need to do your job, sir. And if you’re not going to do it, OK, then we are compelled to do the job for you until you get it right.
President Obama has been suspiciously silent on this issue, hasn’t he? We don’t even know where he stands on immigration reform or securing our borders. He doesn’t talk about it. He gets to punt on that one. And that’s unfortunate because this is a big issue. It’s all about national security. It’s about our sister border states that are inundated with violence and with crime because people illegally crossing the border, engaging in illegal activities for too long now. And some of these border states are saying, Now we’ve had enough. I admire Jan Brewer for taking a stand.
VAN SUSTEREN: Why do you think — I mean, for 20-some years, maybe even longer, even going back to President Reagan — everyone has always said, We’re going to secure the borders.
PALIN: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: Nobody has done anything. I mean, or almost nothing.
PALIN: Because they’ve made it political and they haven’t understood that unsecure borders isn’t fair to anybody. It’s not fair to American citizens who ware here legally, paying taxes, following the rules, doing all the things that an American citizen is expected to do. It’s not fair to them. But it’s not fair to the illegal aliens, either, here. They want to come pursue an American dream. Some of them do want to be here to work. But they’re forever going to have to hide because, you know, government’s going to crack down on them when (INAUDIBLE)
So they need to follow that path of legal citizenship, obviously. But these politicians, presidents in the past who have not secured the border, they’ve made it a political issue. They haven’t wanted to tick off a potential base of Hispanic voters, so they haven’t made the tough decisions. And that’s no way to solve the problem. That’s no way to solve any challenge in America, by ducking and hiding and creating division and making these partisan issues out of it.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, we have still more with Governor Sarah Palin. Governor Palin is blunt about what she would do about illegal immigration. She’s going to tell you.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
VAN SUSTEREN: Continuing with former governor Sarah Palin on illegal immigration.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
VAN SUSTEREN: Both parties have made promises. I mean, we pull up sound bites where, you know, both sides, you know, Democrat, Republicans, say, you know, Secure the border, secure the border. And then once in office, we certainly don’t see a whole lot of action. Had the election gone another way, or even if you were president, what would you do about immigration?
PALIN: The very first thing is literally secure the border!
VAN SUSTEREN: How?
PALIN: People mock the idea of a fence. What’s wrong with building a fence? Yes, let’s physically secure the border. Let’s ramp up border control. Let’s provide the tools for those who are putting their lives on the line in order to stop illegal immigration of these aliens. Those are a couple of things.
And then you don’t start talking about amnesty, either, kind of as this last-minute, Oh, anybody who’s here in the country right now, we’re going to provide you amnesty, and even though you’ve broken the law and we are a nation of laws, you’ve broken that, we’ll still give you — because then there’s going to be a huge influx of those wanting kind of at the last minute to come over the border because they know that they will forever then receive that amnesty.
So you don’t start talking about that, but the very first thing you do is physically, literally secure those borders. It baffles me and most Americans why for all these years presidents, administrations have spoken about it but never done it.


4 posted on 08/15/2011 5:27:24 AM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: "You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: GregB
This is out just to prove the Palin supporters support her because they instinctively like her and not because of her Conservative purity.

Now when you come to Pro-Perry threads would you be so honorable as to announce you support Palin so we can weigh that with your Perry comments?

That said, if the "D.C. insider" who has less connection to D.C. than Palin does gives you the creeps, that's cool. The new Palin comes off to me as a woman who needs attention.

5 posted on 08/15/2011 5:28:09 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

OK I am leaving never to return.


6 posted on 08/15/2011 5:30:54 AM PDT by GregB (I am moving to Palinland!!!)
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To: normy

Something that I will never understand, some people say that there are just too many illegal immigrants to find and deport because there 12 million or so, but these very same people continue to support the idea that we must track down and arrest every one that smokes pot, even though there are probably 50 million. Where is the logic?


7 posted on 08/15/2011 5:31:23 AM PDT by government is the beast (In the last century, an estimated 262 million people have been murderd by their own government)
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To: normy

Hey, I want Palin to come out more strongly against disguised amnesty than she has, but this thread is ridiculous:

1) She was McCain’s VP having to tow the ticket’s party line in this interview, and

2) Perry is an absolute disaster on illegal immigration.


8 posted on 08/15/2011 5:32:30 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: normy

Wait before I leave this Pro Perry/anti Palin thread. You posted no pro Perry article just a slam Sarah one. Right?


9 posted on 08/15/2011 5:33:32 AM PDT by GregB (I am moving to Palinland!!!)
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To: GregB
he looks like another DC insider

He has to be the only DC insider to talk about Texas to secede from the US.

At the last Texas Governor's race, the Bush Family supported his opponent over Rick Perry. She, Kay Bailey Hutchison, was the DC insider.

10 posted on 08/15/2011 5:35:13 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: normy
Perry is the man to back as the over all best candidate.

Yeah if you like open borders and Mexico as the 58th state.

11 posted on 08/15/2011 5:35:24 AM PDT by McGruff (a Sarah Palin supporter and proud of it.)
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To: normy

Yup Palin, like Mc Cain, is Pro Amnesty.


12 posted on 08/15/2011 5:35:43 AM PDT by Beckett08 ("My Jihad means 'My Struggle' So does "Mein Kampf.")
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To: normy
"Perry is the man to back as the over all best candidate."

You're not from Texas nor do you live in Texas, is that correct?

13 posted on 08/15/2011 5:36:57 AM PDT by avacado
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To: normy

The public is not voting for Bush 2(perry), no way no how. Obama already ran against Bush once, he’d love to get that chance again.

One quote from VP candidate Palin compared to ten years of doing nothing but pandering to illegals from Bush 2?

I’d say that comparison bodes well for Palin.


14 posted on 08/15/2011 5:38:46 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: Clyde5445
Let me tell you what is wrong with a fence in Texas. We would either have to build it on Mexico's side of the Rio Grande or on Texas side. If Mexico's side we would essentially need a demilitarized zone. If our side we cede a major river to Mexico.

She is speaking like a woman who hadn't thought it out very well or maybe just someone who has no border experience and governed a secure sparsely populated state that receives federal welfare and oil profit taxes to run her state. Big difference than running a state with a 1,200 mile border with Mexico and 25 million citizens that also is a net donor state (as opposed the 3rd largest recipient of federal welfare like Alaska is).

By the way no disrespect for Alaska, I worked a season on a crab boat back in the nineties.

15 posted on 08/15/2011 5:38:48 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

There is no question about it Palin is a lot more conservative than Perry. Perry’ more in line with
Bush, maybe a little less. Palin more in line with
Reagan maybe a little more. I think Perry is a little
weak and it will show at his first debate, if he shows up.


16 posted on 08/15/2011 5:41:54 AM PDT by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: normy; Jim Robinson; onyx; Al B.; Brices Crossroads; sarah fan UK; rintense; Gargantua; ...
Oh please, this 2008 Univision interview has long been debunked as Steve Schmidt scripted and enforced nonsense.

This is what has happened since...

Sarah Palin Would Like President Obama To Grow A Pair Of ‘Cojones’

Sarah Palin joins Gov. Brewer to launch border security Web site


17 posted on 08/15/2011 5:43:21 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Beckett08

You are mistaken. She has said many times “What don’t you understand about illegal? If they are illegal, they MUST leave.”

The idea of trying to forcibly remove 12,000,000 people is INSANITY. They should be cut off from all avenues of assistance so that they will be worse off here than at home.

The border must be controlled to stop unauthorized entry.


18 posted on 08/15/2011 5:44:29 AM PDT by BillM
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To: GregB
Posting Palins words and how they match Perry's is a slam???
19 posted on 08/15/2011 5:45:43 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; calcowgirl; DoughtyOne
How come this Palin 2008 univision interview is popping up again here over and over again now? This same interview was just reposted here on August 11. Perry is the one that just announced not Palin.

Sarah Palin on Immigration in her own words (reposted Aug 2011 Univision Interview with Sarah Palin from Oct 26, 2008 )

Plus there is a more recent interview last year summer from FNC Bill O Reilly on this subject that is more relevent than this older one.

20 posted on 08/15/2011 5:46:45 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: normy; Clyde5445
If you want to see where a real conservative stands on the border issue, check out post 4.

Then go find the links to Perry's panderings to La Raza.

Two different approaches. I'm not sure we can trust Perry to be anything more than W on this issue.

21 posted on 08/15/2011 5:47:11 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: normy

You are intentionally misleading in your selective quotes. Is that how Perry will act and govern? How would that be different from Obama???


22 posted on 08/15/2011 5:47:48 AM PDT by BillM
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To: 9YearLurker
So she is a party hack or what she just says what she has to to get elected? What is her story. Palin doesn't have 60% of the U.S. Mexico border in her state. She borders wilderness. It's easy to have no record and talk tough when you don't deal with the actual problem.

Trust me, Obama and his minions have this interview too.

23 posted on 08/15/2011 5:47:48 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

Why should illegals follow the rules when they get free stuff? Free healthcare, free food, free educations and can keep voting for the gravy train to roll in.

And to boot, they don’t have to pay taxes.

Only way to fight it is close the borders and enforce existing laws. Cut the anchor baby stuff too. No kid should be considered an American if the parents sneak in and are not citizens.

If there is a guest worker program, whoever hires them gets the bill for their healthcare while here and is held accountable for their return home.

Truth is, I don’t even know why we need a guest worker program. We have millions of unemployed Americans who can get to work. Too bad if they don’t like the job type. If you want to eat, you can take a job you may not like and be productive.


24 posted on 08/15/2011 5:50:06 AM PDT by dforest
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To: avacado
Look at my homepage. Yes I am from Texas and yes I voted for Perry as did most Texans. Perry beat KBH by 20 points in the primary a real Rino D.C. insider with support from the Bush clan
25 posted on 08/15/2011 5:50:30 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

I know this will bring a lot of bashing, but I will vote for Obama if Perry is the nominee. I would rather fight and face a clear cut enemy than have a B.S.ing artist undercutting me and selling me out in back room deals while saying all the “Right” things in public. Please research what Perry has actually done to undercut the Tea Party, even as recent as the latest election. I am willing to research ANY canditate and admit to their faults. I do not understand why ANYONE on THIS site would refuse to see the truth unless they had a hidden agenda. Fess UP!


26 posted on 08/15/2011 5:51:14 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: normy

...Republican Gov. Rick Perry earned applause from the crowd [at a meeting of the Texas Border Coalition] when he said strategic fencing along the border makes sense but the idea of a complete wall or fence is “preposterous.”

Instead, he wants the federal government to establish a guest-worker program that will allow the government to track workers, he said.

...Perry was asked after his speech whether it was a good or bad idea to do away with citizenship as a birthright [via proposed Texas legislation].

“I think any of those types of legislation that create divisions are bad,” he said. “We need to look at ways to be bringing people together rather than driving wedges between them.”
That failure, combined with Perry’s comments that the U.S.-Mexico border fence was “idiocy” and that efforts to deny citizenship to U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants are “divisive,” have rung in the ears of anti-illegal immigration conservatives.

If we do not control illegal immigration, I guarantee this country is gone. Rick Perry is another George W. Bush on Illegal Immigration.

Perry has said that the Border Fence is Stupid,

Perry has said that he is against denying citizenship to baby’s born in the U.S. of illegan immigrants,

Perry is for providing in-state tuition benefits to children of illegal immigrants. (That is an incentive for the Mexican illegals to keep their children in school in Texas, knowing that they will get what only U.S. Citizens in Texas receive)

We had George W. Bush, who was awful on illegal immigration, we do not need George W. Bush Jr., or Rick Perry.

Just because we want to get rid of Obama, does not mean we need to elect a loser on illegal immigration, an issue, as important as the economy.

We don’t get tough on Illegal Immigration, we are done as a country.

Rick Perry will never get my vote, because of his weakness on illegal immigration and I am an American of Hispanic Heritage.


27 posted on 08/15/2011 5:51:33 AM PDT by Mifflin
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To: GregB

Perry has never worked in D.C.


28 posted on 08/15/2011 5:54:11 AM PDT by Beckett08 ("My Jihad means 'My Struggle' So does "Mein Kampf.")
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To: normy

“It’s easy to have no record and talk tough when you don’t deal with the actual problem.”

LoL! yes that describes Bush 2’s ten year record perfectly.


29 posted on 08/15/2011 5:55:51 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: BillM
These are not selective, they are all in one interveiw without breaking it up.

I don't even care what Palin said about it. I care that she is held to some strange conservative purity because her supporters hope, hope, hope she will run. In the mean time they are using tactics to lie or distort Perry's record on every Perry thread that comes out.

You can't call Perry a pandering hack when Palin either supports partial amnesty or was just being a good soldier.

No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty

30 posted on 08/15/2011 5:56:46 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy
You are kidding, right? Captain Gardasil?


“No RINOs”

31 posted on 08/15/2011 5:56:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: Gadsden1st
RE :"I know this will bring a lot of bashing, but I will vote for Obama if Perry is the nominee"

LOL, I remember in 2007 threatening Republicans that I would vote for Hillary if McCain got the nomination. Hillary was pretty hated at the time by them (as I disliked McCain) and Obama was an unknown.

Still glad McCain is not president. Still digesting Perry as he is lesser known nationally than McCain was,

32 posted on 08/15/2011 5:57:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: BillM

You are intentionally misleading in your selective quotes.


Curious would you say the same about the ‘selective quotes’ that are posted repeatedly about the other candidates? I agree with your assessment but I think they all should be taken for what they are; opposition political tactics and disregarded because of that.


33 posted on 08/15/2011 5:57:35 AM PDT by deport ( In Texas it's hotter than two goats fighting in a jalapeno patch.)
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To: normy

“It’s easy to have no record and talk tough when you don’t deal with the actual problem.”
Perry talks tough about the border and look at his track record. He actually has the problem and he’s too busy
pandering to do anything about it. Perry was lucky in his
elections with who he had to run against, a bunch of whackos
and loony women.


34 posted on 08/15/2011 5:59:06 AM PDT by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: normy
We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, “we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. - Rick Perry
35 posted on 08/15/2011 5:59:28 AM PDT by McGruff (a Sarah Palin supporter and proud of it.)
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To: free me
So Palin living in an insulated state of 700,000 people with a border to Canadian wilderness, that receives the 3rd most federal welfare of any state in the Union, uses that welfare money plus taxing oil profits of companies in her state, gives her a solid level of experience to deal with the problems America faces?

That's preposterous. It's easy to talk a good game. Man I could beat Dirk Nowitziki in a game of one on one because I was a pretty good highschool basketball player.

Perry operates at a very high level. Palin does not.

36 posted on 08/15/2011 6:01:28 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Slambat

...Republican Gov. Rick Perry earned applause from the crowd [at a meeting of the Texas Border Coalition] when he said strategic fencing along the border makes sense but the idea of a complete wall or fence is “preposterous.”

Instead, he wants the federal government to establish a guest-worker program that will allow the government to track workers, he said.

...Perry was asked after his speech whether it was a good or bad idea to do away with citizenship as a birthright [via proposed Texas legislation].

“I think any of those types of legislation that create divisions are bad,” he said. “We need to look at ways to be bringing people together rather than driving wedges between them.”
That failure, combined with Perry’s comments that the U.S.-Mexico border fence was “idiocy” and that efforts to deny citizenship to U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants are “divisive,” have rung in the ears of anti-illegal immigration conservatives.

If we do not control illegal immigration, I guarantee this country is gone. Rick Perry is another George W. Bush on Illegal Immigration.

Perry has said that the Border Fence is Stupid,

Perry has said that he is against denying citizenship to baby’s born in the U.S. of illegan immigrants,

Perry is for providing in-state tuition benefits to children of illegal immigrants. (That is an incentive for the Mexican illegals to keep their children in school in Texas, knowing that they will get what only U.S. Citizens in Texas receive)

We had George W. Bush, who was awful on illegal immigration, we do not need George W. Bush Jr., or Rick Perry.

Just because we want to get rid of Obama, does not mean we need to elect a loser on illegal immigration, an issue, as important as the economy.

We don’t get tough on Illegal Immigration, we are done as a country.

Rick Perry will never get my vote, because of his weakness on illegal immigration and I am an American of Hispanic Heritage.


37 posted on 08/15/2011 6:01:52 AM PDT by Mifflin
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To: normy

Obama isn’t going to use a pro-illegal clip against Palin.

1) Why don’t you understand the basics of presidential campaigns:
2) The top of the ticket sets the agenda.
3) When we’re stuck with a RINO at the top it is good that a really conservative is willing to take the #2 spot.
4) Such a conservative will inevitably have to trim his/her sails somewhat to be a team player during the campaign.

I know other FReepers have posted such basics in response to your idiocy on this dozens of times, so it is a wilful denial of the facts of politics that you are displaying here yet again.

On the other hand, I agree that Palin needs to come out strong on illegal immigration and not play the coy games that 90% of even GOP pols play. I like that she stood with Jan Brewer in AZ and I hope she comes out straightforwardly on the issue after she announces.


38 posted on 08/15/2011 6:02:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: normy
Any concerns on illegal immigration? Maybe you feel open borders are a problem? Well, Rick Perry has quite an answer for you. His signature legislation was the Trans-Texas Corridor, where Texas would use its eminent domain to take a mile-wide swath of land from the Texas border to the Oklahoma border and turn it over to a Spanish company for a highway, rail corridor. And, anyone from Mexico could travel into Texas, with no customs check until they hit Kansas.

If you like open borders, you will love Rick Perry.

And the Arizona immigration law passed last year? “It's not for Texas,” says Perry.

Rick Perry, A Moderate's Conservative

39 posted on 08/15/2011 6:04:57 AM PDT by McGruff (a Sarah Palin supporter and proud of it.)
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To: McGruff

...Republican Gov. Rick Perry earned applause from the crowd [at a meeting of the Texas Border Coalition] when he said strategic fencing along the border makes sense but the idea of a complete wall or fence is “preposterous.”

Instead, he wants the federal government to establish a guest-worker program that will allow the government to track workers, he said.

...Perry was asked after his speech whether it was a good or bad idea to do away with citizenship as a birthright [via proposed Texas legislation].

“I think any of those types of legislation that create divisions are bad,” he said. “We need to look at ways to be bringing people together rather than driving wedges between them.”
That failure, combined with Perry’s comments that the U.S.-Mexico border fence was “idiocy” and that efforts to deny citizenship to U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants are “divisive,” have rung in the ears of anti-illegal immigration conservatives.

If we do not control illegal immigration, I guarantee this country is gone. Rick Perry is another George W. Bush on Illegal Immigration.

Perry has said that the Border Fence is Stupid,

Perry has said that he is against denying citizenship to baby’s born in the U.S. of illegan immigrants,

Perry is for providing in-state tuition benefits to children of illegal immigrants. (That is an incentive for the Mexican illegals to keep their children in school in Texas, knowing that they will get what only U.S. Citizens in Texas receive)

We had George W. Bush, who was awful on illegal immigration, we do not need George W. Bush Jr., or Rick Perry.

Just because we want to get rid of Obama, does not mean we need to elect a loser on illegal immigration, an issue, as important as the economy.

We don’t get tough on Illegal Immigration, we are done as a country.

Rick Perry will never get my vote, because of his weakness on illegal immigration and I am an American of Hispanic Heritage.


40 posted on 08/15/2011 6:06:43 AM PDT by Mifflin
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To: GregB
You posted no pro Perry article just a slam Sarah one...

_________________________________

Exactly how can posting her exact words be a slam?

41 posted on 08/15/2011 6:06:51 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: 9YearLurker
Understand this, I will vote for Palin if she runs and if she gets the nomination. The fact she said these words means she is flexible.

I see most Palin supporters as putting their own desires and ideals onto her, which she may or may not espouse.

It's also easy to talk a good game when you're thousands of miles away from the problem.

Napolitano said she perhaps needed to provide “more information” to Perry, who has criticized Washington on issues from border security to education to federal spending. “The numbers tell the tale,” Napolitano said. “I would simply say, ‘Look at the numbers.’” Perry has maintained the numbers are insufficient. A day before Napolitano arrived in Texas, the governor sent a letter to Obama and Napolitano expressing his disappointment that Texas would only be given 250 National Guard troops. Perry, who asked for 1,000 troops last year, called the number “grossly insufficient” to cover the state’s lengthy border with Mexico. “Sending only 20 percent of these much-needed assets to Texas is unfair and inadequate,” he wrote. “Furthermore, when you take into account the ramp-up and ramp-down times associated with a military action of this kind, this deployment would support sustained operations for only an estimated four months

42 posted on 08/15/2011 6:07:45 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

Fair enough.

(What Perry’s doing is only in the run up to his presidential campaign and only involves the border, however. Those 30 million already here, let alone counting further chain migration, will do us in if they are absorbed into the country as he would like.)


43 posted on 08/15/2011 6:11:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: normy

...Republican Gov. Rick Perry earned applause from the crowd [at a meeting of the Texas Border Coalition] when he said strategic fencing along the border makes sense but the idea of a complete wall or fence is “preposterous.”

Instead, he wants the federal government to establish a guest-worker program that will allow the government to track workers, he said.

...Perry was asked after his speech whether it was a good or bad idea to do away with citizenship as a birthright [via proposed Texas legislation].

“I think any of those types of legislation that create divisions are bad,” he said. “We need to look at ways to be bringing people together rather than driving wedges between them.”
That failure, combined with Perry’s comments that the U.S.-Mexico border fence was “idiocy” and that efforts to deny citizenship to U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants are “divisive,” have rung in the ears of anti-illegal immigration conservatives.

If we do not control illegal immigration, I guarantee this country is gone. Rick Perry is another George W. Bush on Illegal Immigration.

Perry has said that the Border Fence is Stupid,

Perry has said that he is against denying citizenship to baby’s born in the U.S. of illegan immigrants,

Perry is for providing in-state tuition benefits to children of illegal immigrants. (That is an incentive for the Mexican illegals to keep their children in school in Texas, knowing that they will get what only U.S. Citizens in Texas receive)

We had George W. Bush, who was awful on illegal immigration, we do not need George W. Bush Jr., or Rick Perry.

Just because we want to get rid of Obama, does not mean we need to elect a loser on illegal immigration, an issue, as important as the economy.

We don’t get tough on Illegal Immigration, we are done as a country.

Rick Perry will never get my vote, because of his weakness on illegal immigration and I am an American of Hispanic Heritage.


44 posted on 08/15/2011 6:11:27 AM PDT by Mifflin
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45 posted on 08/15/2011 6:12:07 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: avacado
I'm from Texas and have lived here all my life. I would vote for Palin if she runs. I would vote Perry after Bachmann, Santorum, Cain, and Newt get out. I would vote for him over Paul and Obama. Actually, I would vote for McCotter before Perry. There are a couple of more Libertarians I wouldn't vote for, but am too lazy to look them up. On a scale of 1-10, Perry is about a 5 or 6, IMO. He is just more politician than saviour. I see a lot of disappointment coming if people think he is Tea Party material. He's not the worst we can do, we have that now, but he will disappoint before election day. IMHO, GWB was better than Perry.

Being governor of Texas is easy because we are a right to work state and have no income tax. If you can just not screw that up, we win. We have had several attempts over the years at the income tax but were able to fight that off. Also, messing with our guns would be suicide and even most Dems shy away from that. The Texas corridor and the Guardasil controversy will hit him square in the puss right out of the gate, IMO. If it doesn't, the MSM is pulling for him thinking he's better than Bachmann or Romney. When you have been governor of a successful state, I'm sure they can find something to crow about, but lets not overlook the warts. IMO, Perry has gotten "more conservative" in the last few years. IMO, it is feaux.( That's Louisianan for false) I think he got his new stripes when he suggested Texas might secede from the union and Texans cheered. If you want to get attention in Texas, that's always a good one. A candidate in Texas that ran on seceding from the union might surprise people on the votes he/she would get. The "loser pays" law is something else Perry might crow about, but we haven't seen how that works out yet. All this is a far cry from straightening out the US. He still wouldn't close the border IMO. I like some of Paul's economic principles, but would NEVER vote him president. Perry could be just as bad as President. Having a couple of conservative principles doesn't make you presidential material. He has good hair, I guess that's a plus. I haven't heard of women fainting yet.

46 posted on 08/15/2011 6:13:13 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: normy

Perry is a RINO.


47 posted on 08/15/2011 6:15:54 AM PDT by avacado
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I see most Palin supporters as putting their own desires and ideals onto her, which she may or may not espouse.

I agree but I would just substitute the word Perry for Palin.

48 posted on 08/15/2011 6:16:30 AM PDT by McGruff (a Sarah Palin supporter and proud of it.)
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To: normy

Curious, why do you think Perry is the best candidate?

Do you also feel he is the most conservative?


49 posted on 08/15/2011 6:16:59 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: chuckles

Agree 100%!


50 posted on 08/15/2011 6:18:29 AM PDT by avacado
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