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Pentagon Considers Scrapping Traditional Military Pensions
Fox News Online ^ | 8/15/2011 | Jim Crogan

Posted on 08/15/2011 4:20:01 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk

A Pentagon task force is proposing the largest overhaul of the military retirement system in 50 years that will do away with a traditional pension system, opting instead for a 401(k)-style contribution program

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
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Civilianized plan ? I don't see civilians enduring long deployments. I don't see civilians sharing their bedrooms with 50 other people and waiting in line for a shower. I don't see civilians having to maintain a physical fitness standard. I don't see any civilians eating MRE's for months on end.I don't see civilians instantly whisked off to a combat zone. Matter of fact I don't see many civilians doing to much to start with.

If you are a not a member of the military, ask yourself these questions.

Does your civilian employment require you to miss your children growing up for years at a time ?

How many times have you pulled 24 hours of continuous duty in a war zone while you wife, son or daughter had a birth, birthday or anniversary ?

When was the last time you put on 80 pounds or restrictive protective equipment and worked outside in the 115 degree heat for days on end where people were actively trying to end you life?

How many times has someone tried to blow up the vehicle you are driving as a part of your employment ?

Do you work regularly overtime for free ? Weekends, Holidays, National Emergencies ?

Can you go home most every night after your work day ?

Does and can your employer regularly weigh you and say that at 5 foot 11 you can only weigh 193 pounds or your terminated ?

Do many of your co-workers commit suicide because of things they have seen or done at work ?

And I ask you this final question. Are your prepared for little Johnny be called to active military conscription ? Because the current Congress and President are going to destroy the volunteer military.

1 posted on 08/15/2011 4:20:06 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk
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To: Newbomb Turk

Military pensions aren’t entitlements, they’re earned benefits, and playing around with them in any form or fashion while still giving away the store to the federal employees (and congress) is insulting to all of our armed forces.


2 posted on 08/15/2011 4:27:19 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Newbomb Turk

Congress should be required to have the same benefits as our fighting hero’s. Make that the law!


3 posted on 08/15/2011 4:28:10 PM PDT by Keen-Minded
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To: Newbomb Turk

I’m sure they are ‘considering’ this from above

meanwhile, the largest waste of our money, bar-none, is local, state and federal employee pensions.

why the hell should people that haven’t risked their lives, excluding police and fire, receive lifetime pensions? did they sacrifice anything while working the job? were they making far below average salaries?

no

they are just parasites sitting in coushy office jobs making above average salaries while having no fear of ever losing their job.

not to mention they start collecting their luxury retirement package when they leave the position... collecting it for the rest of their lives

It all must end


4 posted on 08/15/2011 4:30:13 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Newbomb Turk

Posted here Mr Hollywood Knight ;)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2763969/posts


5 posted on 08/15/2011 4:30:26 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: Newbomb Turk

Do this for social security as a pilot program first.
Or maybe the members of the executive and legislatures should give up their pensions first. They need only six years of service to qualify!


6 posted on 08/15/2011 4:30:33 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Newbomb Turk

To hell with American citizens that have given a life of service to their country. We have welfare queens and illegal immigrants to pay for!!/sarc


7 posted on 08/15/2011 4:30:33 PM PDT by Boris99
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We Are In A Fight For Our Republic

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Support Free Republic

8 posted on 08/15/2011 4:30:52 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Newbomb Turk

Total BS...what did we expect from the commie who is the SOD....it’s time to invoke the 25th...and stop the insanity...


9 posted on 08/15/2011 4:31:23 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Newbomb Turk

There is more, but by golly you have a good start on it.

There should be something in there regarding women taking up
billets that should be reserve strictly for the fighting man.

Women causing a reduction in the physical standards for fighting men.

Women and pregnancy reducing combat readiness.

Women in general in a fighting force.

Women in general in a PC fighting force.

No one is denying that women can’t do the job.
One is questioning the wisdom of allowing it.


10 posted on 08/15/2011 4:33:55 PM PDT by wita
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To: sten

Call me sensitive.

I just spent eight hours in front of my computer, no break, no lunch, to meet a deadline for another department.

I worked for my pay today, thank you very much, and I deeply resent being called a parasite.


11 posted on 08/15/2011 4:34:46 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (When life gives you lemons, throw them back and demand chocolate.)
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To: kingu

RATS in the Pentagon. Need RAT traps and RAT poison to get rid of them.

Watch out for rationing of medical care next. Even now they gather ‘voluntary’ data from non-retired (ordinary) vets which can be used by the death panels for rationing purposes at the VA.


12 posted on 08/15/2011 4:35:40 PM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: Newbomb Turk

If they keep screwing around with the Military, they won’t have one. Is that the real target?

Do they really want people in the Military to opt out?

This comes from the bus campaigning idiot who wanted the Military to buy their own health insurance, and go to war with it.

Now he wants them to start a 401K.

Make that Mother Lumper buy a 401 k to retire from the White House and make him buy one big enough to hire his own security.


13 posted on 08/15/2011 4:36:01 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Newbomb Turk

I have said this before and I will say it again. Washington DC has outlived it’s purpose. We no longer need this centralized form of government. We nee to dissolve it, send all the lawmakers home, and hire a small staff to run operations. But we no longer really need a president, congress or senate. They are the biggest waste of time and money


14 posted on 08/15/2011 4:36:48 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: Newbomb Turk
Because the current Congress and President are going to destroy the volunteer military.

Sadly, tragically for all of us...he and his cohorts are marxists and destroying our military and fundamentally changing our nation away from its constitutional and traditional moral foundation is their goal.

Obama despises this nation as a free, constitutional republic based on fundamental moral principle. He wants to bring that down and build some kind of marxist command economy socialist hell hole on its ruins.

15 posted on 08/15/2011 4:36:53 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Boris99

Yup, us veterans are a much smaller constituency than the illegal/welfare queen/kings out there. 0 will not stand for us, we can only “hope” the conservatives will!


16 posted on 08/15/2011 4:39:28 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: Newbomb Turk

...And of course the average Service member has so much time and the instant communication at hand to manage a 401(k) during a deployment. s/off... The military is the last place anyone should consider this. They don’t get the pay, the time off, or have the personal freedom that civilians (especially politician type civilians) get.


17 posted on 08/15/2011 4:40:40 PM PDT by rex regnum insanit (falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus)
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To: realcleanguy
You ae wrong and the only way such a plan could be legally considered is with a MASSIVE number of amendments to the constitution.

No, we need our congress and our President to represetn us as the founders intended at the national level...we just need to elect individuals who are dedicated and committed to the fundamental principles this nation was founded upon. If we do that, prosperity and liberty will return...and we have to make it happen.

I believe we ot a start in 2010...I believe we will go much further in 2012.

18 posted on 08/15/2011 4:41:52 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Newbomb Turk

I agree. Messing with military pensions will gut our armed forces. The lifers are the backbone of the military.


19 posted on 08/15/2011 4:42:19 PM PDT by meatloaf (It's time to push back against out of control government.)
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To: Newbomb Turk

I think this is a great idea. The current military retirement system is complete BS. If you serve anything short of 20 years you get nothing...zero, zilch, nada. Very few actually make it to twenty years so basically the non-retirees get nothing for their service in terms of building a retirement. They have to start from scratch in the civilian world, putting them well behind their peers.

Under the proposed changes everyone who serves and leaves before retirement age takes with them a head start on building a retirement.

I say do it and I wish I was offered such a plan when I raised my right hand.


20 posted on 08/15/2011 4:43:14 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper
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