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Muted (Is Israel Right to Unofficially Ban Wagner?)
The Tablet ^ | 8/17/2011 | David "Spengler" Goldman

Posted on 08/19/2011 12:49:49 PM PDT by mojito

Richard Wagner, the most repugnant of musical nationalists, has become an unlikely poster child for culturally progressive Israelis. The recurring controversy over the public performance of work by the Nazi Party’s favorite composer erupted again in late July when the Israeli Chamber Orchestra, led by the Austrian conductor Roberto Paternostro, performed a much-publicized Wagner program at the Bayreuth Festival in Germany, Wagner’s self-erected shrine and a pillar of the Nazi movement well before Hitler took power. (Paternostro received a standing ovation from the largely German audience, which understandably liked the idea of Jews playing Wagner.) Morbid ethnocentrism with overtones of nationalist extremism is acceptable to the Israeli left, it seems, as long as it isn’t Jewish.

Every so often a prominent musician makes a point of sneaking Wagner into a public concert in Israel. Zubin Mehta, the Indian-born conductor of the Israel Philharmonic, played a Wagner excerpt as an encore to a 1981 concert; Daniel Barenboim, conducting a German ensemble, did it again at the 2001 Jerusalem Festival. And in each case public opprobrium put Wagner’s scores back on the shelf. At the Bayreuth concert, some of the Israeli musicians explained that they never would perform Wagner in Israel but felt free to do so elsewhere. Performance of Wagner’s music is unofficially—but effectively—banned in Israel. But should it be? Mark Twain quipped that Wagner’s music is better than it sounds. By the same token, banning Wagner’s music is a better idea than it sounds. Suppressing the performance of important musical works is not a small matter, though, and deserves careful thought rather than emotional reflex.

(Excerpt) Read more at tabletmag.com ...


TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment; Religion
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; hitler; israel; nazism; wagner
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A very compelling essay. Worthwhile, despite it's length.
1 posted on 08/19/2011 12:49:52 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

If you can find a copy, Leon Uris’ “Armageddon” is worth readingf. A novel of the American occupation of Germany just after WW II, Uris does a superb job of peeling back the entrenched layers of Nazism in the German soul and psyche. The majority of the references are solidly factual. He really goes after the German people’s adoration of Wagner..


2 posted on 08/19/2011 12:55:05 PM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK 3 miles every day.)
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To: mojito

Wagner is dead.
Hitler is dead.
I like Wagner, I like Israel and I hate Hitler.
It’s only music, make up your own back story if you wish.


3 posted on 08/19/2011 12:57:29 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama get our AAA back.)
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To: mojito

I’ve always been of the opinion that you should separate the politial opinions of old composers and actors and authors from their works. At certain times in history, certain ideas held sway. I bet if you interviewed pretty much any composer or artist from the 14th Century about their views on the equality of Christians and Jews, or Whites and Blacks, you’d get opinions that would be considered flat out racist and anti-Semetic today. They might even be more extreme than the KKK (as in, “all Jews should be killed”). The issue with Wagner is that he was born in an age when those views could be broadly publicized. And he happened to be a Hitler favorite. The fact that he was a Nazi favorite is not his fault. I’m not Jewish so I don’t have a vote in the matter but my opinion is that any religious or ethnic or racial groups should play any music or put on any play or read any book no matter what the political opinions of the creator were.


4 posted on 08/19/2011 12:58:07 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: mojito

I like Wagner!


5 posted on 08/19/2011 12:59:43 PM PDT by BUGSWOL
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To: mojito

I’ve always been of the opinion that you should separate the politial opinions of old composers and actors and authors from their works. At certain times in history, certain ideas held sway. I bet if you interviewed pretty much any composer or artist from the 14th Century about their views on the equality of Christians and Jews, or Whites and Blacks, you’d get opinions that would be considered flat out racist and anti-Semetic today. They might even be more extreme than the KKK (as in, “all Jews should be killed”). The issue with Wagner is that he was born in an age when those views could be broadly publicized. And he happened to be a Hitler favorite. The fact that he was a Nazi favorite is not his fault. I’m not Jewish so I don’t have a vote in the matter but my opinion is that any religious or ethnic or racial groups should play any music or put on any play or read any book no matter what the political opinions of the creator were.


6 posted on 08/19/2011 12:59:50 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

well put...


7 posted on 08/19/2011 1:00:41 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

well put...


8 posted on 08/19/2011 1:00:55 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

well put...


9 posted on 08/19/2011 1:01:05 PM PDT by brivette
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To: mojito

Are Volkswagens not sold in Israel?


10 posted on 08/19/2011 1:02:59 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: mojito

“but he did more than anyone else to mold the culture in which Nazism flourished”

Thats debateable. Scads of books published by all manner of
academics and cranks seem to have done more of that than
Wagners music which merely reflects the 19th emerging
German nationalism and interest in the old mythology.

Is everything that Hitler liked a mold of anti semitic
culture? Sounds like a stretch to me.


11 posted on 08/19/2011 1:04:04 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: mojito

They should ban Wagner then have a huge rally where they burn books written by Germans. What a GREAT idea!


12 posted on 08/19/2011 1:04:33 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: mojito
I like to think that Wagner rolls over in his grave every time I listen to some of his music.

ML/NJ

13 posted on 08/19/2011 1:08:47 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Borges

Ping.


14 posted on 08/19/2011 1:08:49 PM PDT by mojito
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To: ml/nj

I have a bio of Wagner wherein the the author basically says: “Yes, Hitler was a very bad guy but that Wagner!” I’m exaggerating, of course, but it always makes me laugh. But what are you going to do? The music is glorious.


15 posted on 08/19/2011 1:13:00 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: The Toll
They should ban Wagner then have a huge rally where they burn books written by Germans. What a GREAT idea!

Wagner isn't banned in Israel; you can buy his music in any CD store and play it at home. Israeli orchestras do not publicly perform Wagner's music because, whenever they have announced that they would, there were public protests; but there is no legal ban on their doing so. (And, as the article notes, at least twice Israeli orchestras DID publicly perform Wagner's music, albeit as unpublicized encores, and suffered no repercussions.)

16 posted on 08/19/2011 1:14:19 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: mojito

Banning Wagner is just as stupid as the Nazis ban on Offenbach, Mahler, Arnold Schönberg, and Mendelssohn.

Wagner died in 1883.


17 posted on 08/19/2011 1:15:11 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: mojito

She’s sweet on Wagner,
I think she’d die for Beethoven.
She loves the way Puccini lays down a tune
and Verdi’s always creepin’ from her room.

-ELO Rockaria


18 posted on 08/19/2011 1:15:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Wagner wrote hideous pamphlets against the Jews. He was one bad guy; even his family disliked him. That’s a major problem with his legacy and will always be with him. Sorta like Hanoi Jane - only with talent!


19 posted on 08/19/2011 1:17:08 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: ken5050

Uris really gave it to the Germans in the 1960s! I loved his books. Of course, Exodus being my very favorite.


20 posted on 08/19/2011 1:19:41 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: RitchieAprile
“but he did more than anyone else to mold the culture in which Nazism flourished”

I think he shares some credit there with Martin Luther's infamous anti-semitic tract, "Of the Jews and their Lies."

21 posted on 08/19/2011 1:23:01 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: mojito

“Is Israel Right to Unofficially Ban Wagner?”

No. You severly limit your enjoyment by erecting PC barriers to acceptable art. Not that enjoyment is the most important thing, but we’re talking about high art here. And even if you hate the dissonance and near atonality or consider him pretentious, overwrought, and unlistenable, you have to admit we’re not talking about pornography, gansta rap, or piss christ here.

Also, it would be one thing if Wagner were a writer or painter, but music is the most closely “absolute” artform, into which it is difficult if not impossible to inject explicit political messages. he wrote his own librettos, I realize, and his operas involve words, plots, and actions which can convey pretty clear messages. But leaving aside whether or not the operas are anti-semetic, no one really pays attention. It’s about the music, and his music is not anti-semitic.


22 posted on 08/19/2011 1:25:17 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Mike Darancette

Considering that Wagner died before Hitler was born, it would seem odd to “ban” Wagner’s music because another generation’s nefarious characters liked it.

If the Israelis want an unofficial ban on Wagner because Wagner was an anti-semite himself, I have no problem with that.


23 posted on 08/19/2011 1:27:53 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

That’s a really good point. Should we condemn a previous society based on current understandings of morality? Things like this are fluid and tend to change drastically over time, but generally unnoticed when happening, kind of like erosion.

I remember in High School we were debating 50’s TV stereotypes, and my opinion was the same as yours. The characters were not bad guys because their actions are based in the era they existed in.


24 posted on 08/19/2011 1:32:31 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: miss marmelstein
The comparison between Fonda and Wagner raises an interesting point. In my prior post, I said my opinion is that we shouldn't ban OLD artists because of their views. The reasons are practical. Morality and thinking evolves. If you go back 100, 200, 500 years, you will be able to find a view held by an artist that is repugnant today but which was common at the time. Sadly, hatred of Jews is one view that was common for centuries in the West. Wagner wrote pamphlets condemning Jews but 250 years prior to him, mobs went around killing any Jew in sight.

I am very willing to avoid modern artists who hold repugnant views because I don't want to enrich them. Thus, I won't pay to see a Jane Fonda or George Clooney movie. I won't buy certain musicians’ CDs, I won't buy certain writers’ books, etc. That is because I think their current political views are disgusting.

25 posted on 08/19/2011 1:51:39 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I don’t believe in banning artists at all. Wagner was a genuis, no denying and I love his music - although some of it does drone on a bit. Fonda was a fair actress who gave one or two decent performances in film and coasted for the next 30 years. The New York Times actually has a HIT piece on her today, btw. Check it out, you’ll enjoy it.

Please read some of the writings of Wagner on the Jews. They are stomach-churning. As this article points out, after Wagner’s death, his awful wife Cosima attempted to bail Hitler out of jail (forgot about that one!) and had her grand kiddies dandle on his knee. The whole creepy family were Nazis!

It’s the ultimate paradox, isn’t it?


26 posted on 08/19/2011 2:01:03 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: RitchieAprile

“he did more than anyone else to mold the culture in which Nazism flourished”

He did more than anyone else besides Beethoven to mold musical culture, but that’s it. If that has anything to do with nazism I’ll eat my hat. He had nothing to do with the general political, economic, or social atmosphere, except as a dealer in secondhand ideas. His politics were early on the vaguely socialistic leftwing French Revolutionary principles of ‘48, and later almost stoical resignation. His philosophy was pure Schopenhauer, expressed with a fraction of the clarity, power, and originality of Nietzsche.

What is it people think Wagner taught the Nazis? Audobons and old-timey milkmaid dresses? Hooked crosses? State corporatism? Most likely it’s just that “Ride of the Valkyries” reminds us of the luftwaffe.


27 posted on 08/19/2011 2:03:20 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: RitchieAprile

“What is it people think Wagner taught the Nazis?”

Aside from anti-semitism, I mean. And that not, or barely, in his operas, which is all anyone ever really cared about. Saying his anti-semetic articles moulded the Jew hating of the Weimar and Nazi eras is like saying Steve Urkel of “Family Matters” is responsible for today’s popular black youth culture. Okay, Urkel existed, but he’s irrelevant by now.

Wagner was one of legions of German Jew haters of pre-Hitlerite century. Too many to count, really, and that’s just Germany. Vastly more influential on Hitler’s thought was Brit Houston Stuart Chamberlain, who just so happened to be related to Wagner through marriage, but nevermind that.

All you’d have to do is close your eyes and flip to a random page of European history since the Dark Ages to find allegations of Christ killing, pogroms, and fake protocols. The historical air is thick with scapegoating.


28 posted on 08/19/2011 2:16:45 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: mojito

Larry David’s comedic take on the “Wagner ban”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nS66IvbvcI


29 posted on 08/19/2011 2:33:06 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: mojito

Without Wagner’s “flight of Valkyries” the Air Cav scene with Robert Duvall in “Apocalypse Now” would not have been classic. Supposedly the music scared the NVA


30 posted on 08/19/2011 2:38:59 PM PDT by strongbow
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To: mojito
"A very compelling essay. Worthwhile, despite it's length.

It is not an essay ... it is a polemic. The author has facts wrong and chooses to ignore facts he finds inconvenient. For instance, he totally omits the fact that one of the reasons Wagner's music is not played in public in Israel is that it was played in the concentration camps and causes enormous mental distress to holocaust survivors who were saturated with Wagner's music under those circumstances. With time that reason will, in the course of human events, eventually become moot. Far from "sneaking Wagner into a public concert in Israel", when Barenboim played Wagner in Israel, he had first submitted (and had approved by officials of the Jerusalem Festival) a program with a concert performance of Act One of Wagner's opera "Die Walkure"; he withdrew the program and substituted Schumann and Stravinsky. As an encore to the program (originally scheduled to be a Wagner program) he announced would play music of Wagner and invited those for whom Wagner's music had painful associations to leave the hall so they would not be exposed to it - noting that there were many people who did not have such a problem and, in a democracy, were entitled to hear the music if they wished.

The author hideously distorts the facts of the infamous "Hitler Birthday" performance of Beeethoven's 9th Symphony - for one thing, it occurred in 1942 (not 1944). From all reports, Furtwangler was tricked by Goebbels into performing and was furious. I own a copy of the broadcast of the performance and I have no doubt that is true, for the performance is conducted with a fury totally absent from any other Furtwangler performance of the piece that survives (including one given only the month before). The 4th movement "Ode to Joy", while tremendously exciting, comes across as a headlong gallop into the gates of hell rather than anything "joyful". Also, the Mozart opera that Beethoven thought was immoral was Cosi fan Tutte, not Don Giovanni. (Beethoven incorporated music from Don Giovanni into his "Diabelli Variations".)

The author's bias is evident - such as when he credits Wagner for writing the theme music for the Third Reich. Wagner died before there was even a thought of a third reich - the second reich was less than 25% over when Wagner died!

Unfortunately, the only thing compelling about the essay is the demonstration of the low standards exhibited in modern journalism. That's my opinion ... you are, of course, welcome to judge for yourself.

31 posted on 08/19/2011 3:01:33 PM PDT by In Maryland ("The Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers." -Justice Clarence Thomas)
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To: miss marmelstein
his awful wife Cosima attempted to bail Hitler out of jail

I believe they may be confusing Cosima with her DiL Winifred. Cosima was a very old and infirm lady by the time Hitler rose to prominence. I'm not sure she could really be faulted (much) for supporting him anyway, since she died in 1930, well before he took power. It's not like she or anyone else could see into the future, any more than we can.

Winifred, OTOH -- who was English, not German -- was a die-hard, unrepentant Nazi, even after the war. People even speculated that she was one of Hitler's girlfriends.

32 posted on 08/19/2011 3:05:18 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: mojito

My British SiL served in the RAF during the London Blitz.

She won’t allow Wagner either.


33 posted on 08/19/2011 3:05:57 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: strongbow

“They’re gonna play music!

“What!?

“They’re gonna play Wagner. Scares the hell out of the slopes!

“This is a Romeo Foxtrot, shall we dance?

(Cues Ride of the Valkyries)

I flew Hueys in Vietnam and I swear I am not making it up when I told the C.O. that the Valkyrie theme would be a heck of a backdrop as our helicopters were taking off every morning (like the bugle charge call in the movie later on). He reminded me that the 115V provided by the aircraft inverters was 400 cycle, not 60 cycle which would fry any tape deck. Sounded like a good idea, though.

Anyway, whoever said Leon Uris `peeled back the layers of naziism in the German pysche” was spot on. I sensed it when I was stationed in FRG in the 1980’s. Jokes about the Holocaust being told by GI’s German wives just as an example.

The Israelis have a right to their qualms about Wagner, IMO.


34 posted on 08/19/2011 3:11:40 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam. Freedom for mankind.")
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To: miss marmelstein

Karl Marx (yes, I know he was of Jewish ancestry) wrote some of the most horrendous anti-Semitic propaganda ever penned, but somehow that hasn’t led the world’s Jews to repudiate Marx or socialism.


35 posted on 08/19/2011 3:12:44 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Campion

It was Winifred. She was British and was married off to the homosexual Siegfried Wagner. She (and the family) became close friends with Hitler. It’s very instructive to view H.J.Syberberg’s interview with Winifred (it got him banned from Bayreuth). She really didn’t see Hitler as a bad man, he was just a good friend of the family. She was very naive in that respect. On the plus side, and pretty much what saved her in the war’s aftermath was that she interceded for many Jewish artists - directly to Hitler and to the chagrin of his henchmen.

Wagner was a great composer, a true giant. Personally he was a complete creep. Hitler also very much misunderstood Wagner. He took what he wanted and that was extremely superficial.


36 posted on 08/19/2011 3:18:55 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Campion

It was Winifred. She was British and was married off to the homosexual Siegfried Wagner. She (and the family) became close friends with Hitler. It’s very instructive to view H.J.Syberberg’s interview with Winifred (it got him banned from Bayreuth). She really didn’t see Hitler as a bad man, he was just a good friend of the family. She was very naive in that respect. On the plus side, and pretty much what saved her in the war’s aftermath was that she interceded for many Jewish artists - directly to Hitler and to the chagrin of his henchmen.

Wagner was a great composer, a true giant. Personally he was a complete creep. Hitler also very much misunderstood Wagner. He took what he wanted and that was extremely superficial.


37 posted on 08/19/2011 3:20:08 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: hellbender

Yes, I have a book called the Tangled Bank (I think, by Stanley Hyman) which features some of Marx’s more lurid descriptions of Jews. You need tongs to read it. Those writings don’t get too much play in either media or history, do they?


38 posted on 08/19/2011 4:08:24 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: Campion
Thanks for the correction. I've gotta get back to the one or two Wagner bios I have because my husband and I are fans of opera. I've forgotten some of the details of his genuis and his truly despicable character - which even people of his generation acknowledged.
39 posted on 08/19/2011 4:21:16 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: elcid1970

I had a blind date with a very good-looking German man back about 1980, oy, such a long time ago! Now, you can’t paint all Germans with a broad brush, but I swear I was with him not 10 minutes before he started talking against the Jews in a gross way. This was in NYC so I guess he noticed a few of them. My skin crawled and I was outta that date within the next 5 minutes(I’m not Jewish, by the way).

I imagine you look a lot like Robert Duvall, lol!


40 posted on 08/19/2011 4:27:40 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: In Maryland
Furtwangler went through a denazifaction process, didn't he?

There was a play about 15 years ago with Ed Harris playing his American interrogator. Not a good play but interesting. I was very good friends with the late Werner Klemperer. He told me that his father had nothing good to say about Furtwangler. I'm just repeating this - I know nothing about the real story.

41 posted on 08/19/2011 4:43:21 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Wagner, personally, was a creep. Decent men don't sleep with their friends' wives, much less spawn three children with them before the divorce.

A lot of his anti-Semitism was borne out of a personal grudge against a French-Jewish composer named Meyerbeer, who beat out Wagner for attention in Paris early in his career. Oddly, most of Wagner's operas were premiered by a Jewish conductor (don't recall the name at the moment), so he evidently didn't have a problem with Jews who were on his side ... go figure.

42 posted on 08/19/2011 5:12:34 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: miss marmelstein

Wagner’s wife Cosima (Liszt’s daughter) was more anti-semitic than he was.


43 posted on 08/19/2011 5:37:31 PM PDT by Borges
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To: mojito

I like Wagner. Besides without him we wouldn’t have had Dolly Parton. And what sort of world would that be.


44 posted on 08/19/2011 5:48:00 PM PDT by tlb
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To: miss marmelstein

Don’t I wish I looked like Robert Duvall now at 62! Actually I wasn’t a bad lookin young skinny dude in 1983 at my first wedding. She was called home by the Lord but my new wife is keeping me on the straight and narrow. Tryin’ to, anyway.

I do remember Germans yammering at me so what about Auschwitz why did you have to bomb our cities. I have since given away all my souvenir German stuff too bad since I am ethnically half German but American all the way. Guys I served with in FRG who spoke German better than me even with German surnames were appalled at how they were treated by the locals. My bride flew into Frankfurt airport and she was furious how they treated her like a Jew because of her dark hair and eyes. Ironically I beat out two Jewish guys who tried to marry her before I did.

BTW, G-d bless Israel!


45 posted on 08/19/2011 7:41:24 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam. Freedom for mankind.")
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To: elcid1970
Duvall was in pretty good shape for Apocalypse Now but I'm sure you're much more handsome!

Your experiences in Germany are certainly eye-opening. My husband and I were in Pere Lacaise cemetary in Paris several years ago after seeing the grave of Maria Callas. A German couple came up to us and started yammering about (get this!) “where were the crematoriums? The crematoriums?” They apparently meant the indoor cemetery where Callas was buried. But all we could focus on were Germans carrying on about crematoriums. We had a good if awkward laugh about it.

My best friend survived the Blitz as a child of about 3-5 years. The worst fight I ever saw him get into was when his wife suggested Dresden should never have happened. But then, as a Brit, he thinks Hiroshima should never have happened. Go figure!

46 posted on 08/20/2011 4:18:18 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: mojito

I don’t believe in banning music. I also didn’t know that Tchaikovsky was an especially notable antisemite. Then again, he was an odd fellow and a homosexual who married a nymphomaniac.


47 posted on 08/21/2011 1:35:32 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

Just because someone made comments here and there doesn’t make them notable in that sense for their time. Tchaikovsky’s mentors were the Rubinstein Brothers and he held their opinion in high regard. He was highly influenced and admiring of Mendelssohn.


48 posted on 08/21/2011 1:22:38 PM PDT by Borges
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To: miss marmelstein

Not surprising - Klemperer was a great conductor and suffered greatly because of the Nazis. But, yes, Furtwangler underwent a denatizification procedure and was cleared, and was frequently used for broadcasts by RIAS (Radio in the American Sector).


49 posted on 08/23/2011 9:19:39 AM PDT by In Maryland ("The Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers." -Justice Clarence Thomas)
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To: Campion
Hans von Bulow conducted the premieres of most of the Wagner operas - I don't believe he was Jewish; he WAS the husband of Cosmina who was so madly cuckholded. But he continued to champion Wagner's music. Go figure!

Hermann Levi, a Jewish conductor, led the premiere of Wagner's final opera, Parsifal. A real miracle of art - that a moving, religious-based work could be composed by someone who was the antithesis of a religious man.

50 posted on 08/23/2011 9:30:14 AM PDT by In Maryland ("The Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers." -Justice Clarence Thomas)
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