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Posted on 08/20/2011 8:41:08 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
Yesterday my son and I were travelling down the road when he turns to me and tells me that the lady on the corner panhandling is holding a sign with one hand and talking on her smartphone with the other. Am I missing something here?
Why, yes! Only rich people have smart phones. Mine cost $13, pre-activated.
Nope you’re not, unless you gave her money. :-)
Naah! You didn't miss a thing. It's just typical of the world that we live in these days. Panhandling is just a part time job to her.
We have the richest “poor” in the world.
Reminds me of when we used to drive though a low income housing area, on our way to the ballpark. My then 8 year old asked why each house had a huge satellite dish and brand new car in the front yard.
Poor people also have nice cars, microwave ovens and more cable channels than you.
The welfare check alone cannot cover all of that and her club dues and recreational drug expenses...
Well, of course you are. You obviously missed the 2008 "Spread the Wealth" exchange in Toledo between candidate Obama and Joe the Plumber.
I live north of LA. In the past 2 years we have had a huge influx of bums. Bums with cell phones, bums with toddlers, bums with nice cars.
We have the richest poor in the world <<
BINGO!...We have a winner!!
We have the only country in the world where being “poor” becomes a life style choice.....
Many years ago, when I first began college, I had an entry level behavioral sciences course. One of our assignments was to violate a folkway or more of society and report back on the reaction. Our professor mentioned a number of possible actions, like talking to folk in elevators, etc.
At some point I recall her telling us the story of a student she had a few years prior who decided to dress in ragged clothes and panhandle for his assignment. She did not see him in class again. She did however run into him somewhere else (it’s been years,a nd I cannot recall where it was she said), but he was wearing a very nice suit. She asked hi how he was since she never saw him again in class.
He proceeded to thank her for giving him the assignment, because his first day panhandling, he made several hundred dollars. He said he had [perfected] his act, and was now pulling in over $600 EACH DAY. She asked alll of us, to not panhandle (as it was illegal anyway where I am from), and that if we chose to do so, to not give up our career track and schooling to become professional panhandlers.
I also remember being raised by my dad, who, when asked for gas money, etc. in parking lots, offered to buy them a gallon or two of gas so they could get to wherever they were going. If he saw a sign that read “Will work for food” or was approached by someone saying that, he would offer them work and then pay them (Not the best idea these days, as criminals will often use the strategy to case your home). To my knowledge, only one or two men ever came and did work for him, and no one ever wanted the gas he was willing to buy them, just the money. Food for thought.
Yes.. what you missed is the government checks she gets..
She may be a republican... a Romney supporter... maybe Perry for sure Juan McLaim..
That happened to me outside a store...and the lady had a child with her. Inside every store they are begging for $$$$$$$$$$ for some charity.
I’m thinking of posting this editorial for the local paper on FR to see what non-locals think of this.
A woman from a nearby town wrote into the paper to let the valley know that he income was too high to qualify foodstamps, but because she owns a home and has an apartment (because she doesn’t want to pay for gas for the commute I guess), and she’s putting her husband through school, that she feels it’s unfair that she does not qualify for food stamps. It’s on a tangent, but it really shows the attitude that some people really have.
“Food Stamp formula unfair”
I assumed she was you typical druggie who's parents were providing with a cell phone for emergencies or to keep in touch.
I assumed she was your typical druggie who's parents were providing with a cell phone for emergencies or to keep in touch.
No one is saying only rich have cell phones, but if someone is begging for donations for food, perhaps they should de-activate their phones....Are you saying that you don’t see a problem with this picture?
However, it is not the cost of the phone that is expensive...(Perhaps you received an offer for a $13 smart phone—I have seen free ones offered thru my phone company for a 2-year activation), it is the cost of the monthly access and data charges. IMHO, for most plans that amounts to a sizable sum that could buy a lot of potatoes!
In other words, is a smart phone a need or a want?
the druggies, alcoholics, ‘bi-polars’ etc that collect welfare $$$ and food stamps - also get free cell phones.
True story! A member of my family (I am ashamed to say, she is the only one like this) has not worked in several years. I don’t understand the finer points of govt freebies, but she somehow, without any children, and she is NOT disabled, she qualifies for the following;
“General Assistance” monthly cash (not sure amount)
A “low income” 1-bdrm apartment. Because her income is zero (they don’t count the “general assistance”), the govt sliding scale gives her this apartment (market value about $500) for $53/month rent. No loans, no work program. It’s hers forever for $53, subsidized by your taxes.
Utilities, because she is below the poverty line, are deep discounted (electricity, phone, etc)
She gets TWO free bus passes, from two different agencies. She sells one and pockets the cash.
All medical care, doctor visits and Rx’s are totally free (California program I believe, not Fed).
Dental is not covered by the State; she goes to a charity of the Catholic Church and gets them to pay for her dental work.
Tuition and books for community college. AND — “Financial Aid” because she is low income so needs money to live on while she is “studying” (these are art classes). The govt assumes a “student” cannot work too (again a Calif program).
Free clothing thru another church giveaway program.
While the rest of my (working or retired) family all just emailed around saying sorry, but we have to be frugal this Christmas, let’s just have very simple gifts...this person just purchased, cash, a new laptop computer and printer. She has a high-quality cell phone and all the usual gizmos folks have today. She goes to movies, restaurants, parties and shopping. She is not dealing drugs, or doing anything illegal, all this is “within the system.”
That is a picture of a real life “poor” person I know.
The first time I encountered a homeless person who interupted his conversation to ask for money..I was like..Really dude? Your’e kidding me, right?
I didn’t think of all of the reasons listed on this thread...but I don’t really care.
A few weeks ago, I went to a supermarket and a seemingly distraught woman asked me for a dollar since Please. I haven’t eaten all day. As I entered the market, I mentioned that I might have change after my purchase. Here I was using coupons and who do I see with a cart stacked with meats and other items while chatting on a cell phone in a very confident tone? The crying person who hadn’t eaten all day.
In my little town all spring long there was a guy working a corner by a shopping area (Chinese restaurants, Wal-Mart, etc. - lots of traffic). Noticed that whenever he was there, there was a large (lift kit, monster tires), new, 4x4 pickup parked in the corner of the parking lot. Far from any store, but just a dozen yards or so from him. Not sure it was his, but after a few dozen coincidences... If he can afford something that cost 3x what my car cost, and gets 1/2 the gas mileage... Maybe he should be giving me money.
Many of these ‘panhandlers’ are real pros.
If they get a good spot, they can make quite a good income.
Also watch out for the ‘intersection donation’ group. The Firefighters do this work to get donations for burned children. BUT, there are groups that buy crap like sugar candy in long brightly colored straws and sell them for a dollar a piece.
Of course, they aren’t giving the profits to burned children.
There is a woman at my freeway entrance ramp who parks her car nearby and then carries a wheelchair to the centerstrip at the red light. When she gets there, she opens up the wheelchair, pulls out her sign, and starts collecting.
Another woman, at my freeway exit ramp three exits down, parks her car two blocks away at Carls Jr and then walks back to it when her day is done. I watched her walk to her car one day and she starts out real mopey and slow and then gradually walks faster as she approaches her car.
Oh I did not think you were on welfare LOL. Sounds like you live out in the plains? I have family waay up north...and I lived in ND. Pretty much need to be self sufficient to survive... I think country needs to become more self-sufficient oh and the established politicians are just elitists for the most part.
Agreed, on all points, we’ve talked on some threads before, and I know I like your style. Here’s the kicker so fe seem to understand, even here on FR:
“pensioners. Charlie Chan will not continue to send both products and money forever. Sustainable revenues require much more heavy manufacturing.”
The U.S. Citizenry has long, (over 60 years now), enjoyed a lifestyle subsidized on the backs of other citizens. As long as we have run a deficit, someone has been sudsidizing us. The greater the deficit, the greater the subsidization. “Charlie Chan” as you put it, is absolutely sick of paying for the freebies our government is giving away. it will abruptly come to a stop, but probably not before a long slide and some large scale international war or two, sadly. China’s not rapidly building up their naval forces for nothing, after all.
But what do I know...
We probably paid for it!
Thank you for reply...agreed, waay too many conning government and other citizens for money...I heard that the EPA has funded murals in the tunnels in Chicago...Murals?!?!? and we are $14 Trillion in debt?!
Sounds like you live in beautiful country tho...you are south of Wyoming...altitude must make it fairly cold... Wyoming is south of 2 of my family. LOL.
But I am in in the socialist state of IL. It has some beautiful areas, but ohhhh the politics and taxes...Ugh...
Michael Douglas knows how to deal with ‘em.
Great post, and good luck with the animals. I’m hitting the hay soon, but I wanted to respond to one point:
“Whatever happened to Americans who wanted to do some real work?”
I think they/we are still out there/here. I think the problem isn’t that there are so many who are unwilling to work, I think the problem is that not only has the public school system been directed to quash anyone not conforming to the establishment groupthink/socialist dogma, but that the elitists have so thoroughly permeated government (through bribery, blackmail, and buttering up) that there regulation stranglehold on anything and everything quells virtually anyones desire to even try anymore (the true goal of Communism/Socialism is absolute power, and that is only found when everyone else gives up).
When a little girl’s lemonade stand is fined out of existence for not having a license, when a neighbor can’t sell milk to another, when it’s impossible to legally develop your own land because of how it may affect some animal/moss/slug, then there is no true freedom left. We must weed out the regulation and oppression.
I once read that 7 of 12 (MORE THAN HALF!), of all of the workforce in the U.S. is tied to government, whether it be Federal, State, Local, or contracted (several percent are teachers, alone!). Each and every person being paid out in such a system is a person taking wages out of the real economy. We already have more scooping from the bucket than are pouring in (hence a deficit running in trillions, despite the ridiculous taxation—I read the average amount of taxes taken out by income taxes, fees, licensing, etc. of the average American is over 40%). Eventually the number scooping out of the bucket will surpass even those pouring in globally. At that point, the printing will take over full bore.
I see the future as being a bright, but difficult one. The fundamental law of the Universe is “Whatsoever thou sowest, that shalt thou also reap.” Thus until people begin sowing, there will be a dirth of reaping. So far foreigners have been proverbially sowing, but I don’t see it lasting long. Then the spark could really fly.
The fee’s on a phone bill can often double the cost of the phone service itself. A friend of mine once had a $13 dollar phone service that was about $35 after taxes (not uncommon.
I recently cancelled the home phone, which was provided over internet. There are no wires involved (To the house, I do realize there are some from the ISP to the service at the switch, central office, etc.)! The cost of the phone service was $20, but the taxes brought the cost to nearly $35 dollars. The taxation in this country has surpassed ridiculous. I have never even heard of someone calling poison control, for example, but tens if not hundreds of millions of lines of telephone service are taxed for it each month!
I just wanted to correct my post about the poison control center telephone tax. It varies in existence by state, but my state has it, so this state alone has millions, of tax payments for a service (PCC) that I have never even heard of being used.
Yeah, the Giant Pixie Stick people have been panhandling in the parking lot at my local Sam’s Club for a while now. They hit me up and I just say “no thanks, but have a nice day.” So far, no one’s gotten aggressive about it yet.
My new response is going to be “My brother’s dead broke. What makes you think you’ve got a better claim to my money than my own family member?” And yes, my brother is having some tough financial times. Lost his business last year and has tax liens, etc.
Old Sherock Holmes story:
Lady asks Sherlock to find out what her royal hubbie does as he leaves for a few days at a time.
After a little dificulty he finds that the guy inherited a title and land and all the strings attached.
He has no discernable skills and so he transforms himself in to a legless guy on a wheeled cart who gos out panhandleing.
When Sherlock confronts the guy he explains he has obligations and this is the only way to satisfy those obligations.
Besides doing it this way he PAYS NO TAXES.
Waiting for the call, FLASHMOB!!
Thursday, I stopped for fuel at Virginia I-81 exit 72 off ramp. There was a man there with a sign ......homeless vet. He was leaning on a cane.
Weeks before I saw him up the road at exit 78 at the Flying J.
The strange part is that he is often seen in Tennessee 100 miles south at I 81 exit 59.
He makes his tax free living standing at off ramps holding a sign. We can guess he makes better than minimum wage. It is not unreasonable to think $10 an hour.
My charity is for the truly needy. Those who are the ‘’pros’’ at pan-handling, well, I learned how to deal with them thirty years ago working in New York City. No matter how ragged they look(part of the costume) no matter their bs, I’d never let them get more than a word out before I responded with a very loud F OFF!!! Gets a stare or two at first but I was never bothered again.
One time I was standing on the corner waiting for a bus when a car pulls up and the driver sticks his head out of the window and asks me for “spare change.”
Of course, I must remember that this happened in San Francisco - the world’s largest open-air asylum.