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2011 BELGIAN GRAND PRIX - Live Thread
Chode ^ | 08/25/2011 | Chode

Posted on 08/25/2011 3:56:04 PM PDT by Chode

2011 BELGIAN GRAND PRIX

Venue: Spa-Francorchamps
Date: Sunday 28 August
Lap length: 4.352 miles
Race laps: 44
2010 winner: Lewis Hamilton (McLaren)
First grand prix: 1924

Fri Heavy Rain 24c

Sat T-Showers 16c

Sun Part Sunny 17c


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: f1; formulaone; grandprix

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1 posted on 08/25/2011 3:56:15 PM PDT by Chode
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To: Chode; atc23; Bad~Rodeo; Betis70; bobby.223; bobt7818; brf1; briankk; cld51860; clintonh8r; ...
UP...!!!

2 posted on 08/25/2011 3:57:20 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
Stuff...

Jenson Button has praised Mercedes' driver Michael Schumacher as he prepares to celebrate his 20th anniversary in the sport at this weekend's Belgian Grand Prix and the McLaren driver has not ruled out the prospect of equalling the German's feat himself.
Full story: Metro

Meanwhile, BBC F1 chief analyst and former team boss Eddie Jordan says he probably wouldn't have given Schumacher his first Formula 1 start in Belgium in 1991 had he known the German had never driven the Spa Francorchamps circuit before.
Full story: The Sun

Ferrari, the team Schumacher won five of his seven world championships with between 2000 and 2004, say they have a surprise in store for their former charge at Spa to celebrate his anniversary. "We have prepared a little something to mark this occasion," said team boss Stefano Domenicali cryptically.
Full story: Ferrari

Reflecting on his first time in a F1 car, when he tested a Jordan at Silverstone three days before competing in practice at Spa, Schumacher admits to initial doubts about his ability. "On the first lap, I thought to myself: 'Maybe you've bitten off more than you can chew.' But on the second lap, I was more relaxed. By the third, I had forgotten my doubts and felt comfortable in the car."
Full story: Mercedes

Scot Paul di Resta is determined to prove his seventh place finish in Hungary was not a one-off. After a run of eight races without a point, the Force India driver produced his best drive of the season in Budapest and following the summer break, Di Resta believes the car has the pace to to replicate that performance at Spa.
Full story: Daily Mail

Ferrari driver Felipe Massa has backed the decision to ban the use of the DRS overtaking device through Eau Rouge at this weekend's race. On Monday, FIA race director Charlie Whiting deemed the device too dangerous to use through the famous high speed corner in practice and qualifying.
Full story: Ferrari

Double world champion Fernando Alonso spent his summer vacation relaxing with family and friends and cycling in Spain's Asturias region. The Ferrari driver is raring to get back on track and insists the team have not "thrown in the towel" in the fight for the drivers' championship.
Full story: Ferrari

Belgian GP organisers have modified their circuit ahead of this weekend's race with the Rivage hairpin being widened on the grounds of safety. They have also replaced the corner's gravel trap with an asphalt run-off area.
Full story: GP Update

Former Minardi owner Giancarlo Minardi has called on the sport's governing body to give new young drivers more opportunities to break into the sport.
Full story: Crash.net

Virgin reserve driver Sakon Yamamoto will DJ at the next F1 Rocks afterparty which will return to Milan during next month's Italian Grand Prix.
Full story: Formula1.com

3 posted on 08/25/2011 3:58:15 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
My favorite F1 track! Very exciting, especially after three weeks off.


4 posted on 08/25/2011 4:13:50 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Chode
one more classic photo.. :)


5 posted on 08/25/2011 4:15:29 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop

Is that Jimmy Clark leading?


6 posted on 08/25/2011 4:36:19 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: JimC214

I believe it is Graham Hill leading in a BRM. Jim Clark did win that year though!


7 posted on 08/25/2011 4:41:29 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop

Thanks.


8 posted on 08/25/2011 4:49:08 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: MrShoop
yup...
9 posted on 08/25/2011 5:01:09 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MrShoop

My favorite track, too. Too bad they neutered Eau Rouge...


10 posted on 08/25/2011 5:09:06 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West (this tagline under review))
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To: JimC214

Looks like Graham Hill, then Stewart, Surtees (?) in the Honda, a Brabham (Jack or Hulme), Ferrari (who?), then Clark.


11 posted on 08/25/2011 5:11:06 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est)
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To: MrShoop

Very cool. ‘Love the hay bails at the wall after the 1st turn.


12 posted on 08/26/2011 12:15:18 PM PDT by PfromHoGro (RINOs give Rhino a bad name, & Oil = Recycled Solar Power)
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To: Chode
2nd practice...

Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:50.321 22
2 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:50.461 0.140 19
3 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:50.770 0.449 9
4 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:50.838 0.517 9
5 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:51.218 0.897 15
6 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:51.242 0.921 23
7 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:51.655 1.334 21
8 14 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:51.725 1.404 18
9 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:51.751 1.430 9
10 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:51.790 1.469 13
11 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:51.922 1.601 23
12 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1:52.750 2.429 20
13 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:52.780 2.459 26
14 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:52.911 2.590 25
15 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:53.009 2.688 25
16 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:53.156 2.835 17
17 9 Bruno Senna Renault 1:53.835 3.514 21
18 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1:55.051 4.730 20
19 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:55.494 5.173 23
20 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1:56.202 5.881 15
21 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1:56.816 6.495 21
22 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 1:57.450 7.129 19
23 22 Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 1:57.612 7.291 24
24 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 2:02.234 11.913 12

13 posted on 08/26/2011 2:50:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MrShoop

#5 is 1965

What year is #4 ???

I noticed wings on the front in #4, and the missing Martini sign below the BP sign, convincing me they are two different years.


14 posted on 08/26/2011 5:58:02 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

I think it is 1970


15 posted on 08/26/2011 8:34:14 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Chode

Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
1 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 2:03.029 2:03.317 1:48.298 22
2 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 2:03.008 2:02.823 1:48.730 21
3 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 2:02.827 2:03.302 1:49.376 23
4 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 2:05.834 2:04.507 1:50.256 21
5 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 2:05.091 2:03.723 1:50.552 23
6 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 2:05.419 2:04.561 1:50.773 24
7 9 Bruno Senna Renault 2:05.047 2:04.452 1:51.121 24
8 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 2:04.450 2:02.768 1:51.251 22
9 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 2:06.284 2:04.625 1:51.374 24
10 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 2:05.292 2:03.466 1:52.303 23
11 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 2:04.744 2:04.692 18
12 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 2:07.194 2:04.757 18
13 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 2:01.813 2:05.150 15
14 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 2:05.720 2:07.349 17
15 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 2:06.000 2:07.777 12
16 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 2:05.621 2:08.106 17
17 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 2:06.780 2:08.354 15
18 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 2:07.758 8
19 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 2:08.773 8
20 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 2:09.566 9
DNQ 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 2:11.601 9
DNQ 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 2:11.616 9
DNQ 22 Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 2:13.077 9
DNQ 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes No time 1
Q1 107% Time 2:10.339

16 posted on 08/27/2011 6:31:48 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Just finished watching Q on the DVR. Man, Alguersuari and Senna came out of no where for these qualifying sessions.

Too bad about Schumi crashing. Looked like his wheel came off?


17 posted on 08/27/2011 11:44:11 AM PDT by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: Betis70
i didn't see it... was he just coming out of the pits???
18 posted on 08/27/2011 12:30:47 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

His first lap in the first quali, I can’t recall if it was a warm-up lap or his first timed lap. It looked like it just came off, and then he went flying into the wall. Perhaps a suspension failure.

He sounded as calm as if he was having Sunday coffee on the radio afterwards. No wonder he won the championship 7 times.


19 posted on 08/27/2011 1:48:24 PM PDT by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: Chode

Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Pts
1 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 44 Winner 1 25
2 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 44 +3.7 secs 3 18
3 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 44 +9.6 secs 13 15
4 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 44 +13.0 secs 8 12
5 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 44 +47.4 secs 24 10
6 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 44 +48.6 secs 5 8
7 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 44 +59.7 secs 15 6
8 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 44 +66.0 secs 4 4
9 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 44 +71.9 secs 10 2
10 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 44 +77.6 secs 21 1
11 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 44 +83.9 secs 17
12 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 44 +91.9 secs 12
13 9 Bruno Senna Renault 44 +92.9 secs 7
14 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 43 +1 Lap 18
15 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 43 +1 Lap 16
16 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 43 +1 Lap 14
17 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 43 +1 Lap 20
18 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 43 +1 Lap 19
19 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 43 +1 Lap 22
Ret 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 27 +17 Laps 9
Ret 22 Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 13 +31 Laps 23
Ret 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 12 +32 Laps 2
Ret 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 6 +38 Laps 11
Ret 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 0 +44 Laps 6

20 posted on 08/28/2011 6:48:39 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
end

end2

eni


21 posted on 08/28/2011 6:49:12 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
Did anyone happen to watch the BBC race coverage? OK, great race, a pleasure to watch and all that...but what's up with Eddie Jordan wearing a Red Star on his lapel in the commentary portions with Coulthard and that BBC guy? Eddie the Commie? Did I miss something?

Whatever, that was a very entertaining race. Right up there with Canada this year.

Oh, while I'm at it, how about that move Maldonado pulled on Hamilton at the end of qualifying? Must have put a smile on Chaves' face (the other Venezualian thug).

22 posted on 08/28/2011 3:06:33 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Chode
thank you

Did you notice Michael run a +19 race on a 44 lap course?

23 posted on 08/28/2011 3:19:33 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Chode
Vettel wins action-packed Belgian Grand Prix

Sebastian Vettel has strengthened his championship lead by winning the Belgian Grand Prix. The German led home team-mate Mark Webber as Jenson Button rose to third from 13th on the grid. With Alonso and Schumacher fourth and fifth, Lewis Hamilton crashed heavily in an incident with Kamui Kobayashi.

There was much drama prior to the race, with top ten qualifiers – especially Red Bull – complaining of blistered front tyres but not being allowed to change them. Blisters remained an issue for the field during the race, although there were few tyre-related incidents. Rain, predicted by some to hit the circuit halfway through the Grand Prix, stayed away from the legendary venue.

The start was clean for the front-runners, with Nico Rosberg seizing second place and then taking the lead from Vettel at Les Combes. At first corner La Source, drama in the midfield saw Bruno Senna clout the innocent Jaime Alguersuari, whose left-front suspension was ruined by being pushed into an escaping Alonso.

'Wonderful end to wonderful weekend' - Schumacher

Michael Schumacher produced an inspiring drive in Sunday’s Belgian Grand Prix, with the race marking the seven-time World Champion’s 20th anniversary in F1. After starting at the back of the grid due to losing a wheel in qualifying, the German’s rise to the top five included a pass on team-mate Nico Rosberg with three laps remaining.

“A wonderful ending to a wonderful weekend here at Spa,” the Mercedes driver commented. “I think more than fifth place would not have been possible today, but making up 19 places was a good feeling.

"With all my family, friends and fans here, it was an extra motivation and I would like to thank all of them for their support. They saw an exciting race with a great strategy from our team.

“So all in all, for me, there was a lot of emotion and a lot of overtaking today. At the beginning I was a bit afraid that some of the flying parts might hit and damage my car, but I was lucky that nothing happened. After that, I had big fun hunting and making my way forward.”

Today’s drive at Spa followed a similar performance for Schumacher last year, when he finished seventh from 21st on the grid.

Vettel retook the lead from Rosberg once DRS was enabled on Lap 3, with drivers enjoying Istanbul-like advantages from the new-for-2011 aid. Alonso climbed to second as fast-starting team-mate Felipe Massa lost ground attacking Rosberg; the Brazilian soon dropped to fifth as Hamilton took advantage at Pouhon. Massa’s day eventually ended in eighth, having had to pit once more than necessary for a puncture but grabbing one place from an ailing Vitaly Petrov on the final lap.

Hamilton’s race ended dramatically on Lap 13. After passing Kamui Kobayashi’s Sauber, the Englishman attempted to retake the racing line as the duo approached Les Comes; with the Sauber still alongside, last year’s winner was speared into the barriers in dramatic fashion, being slightly winded by the heavy impact. The accident brought out the Safety Car as a number of drivers – notably Vettel, Sutil, Schumacher and Button – immediately dived for the pits to save time.

Alonso headed the field at the Lap 17 restart, with Webber (after enduring a slugging start) and Vettel both in close attendance. A lap later, Button’s rise saw an impressive two-car pass on Petrov and the Sauber of Sergio Pérez under braking for La Source. Pérez – who served a Drive-Through penalty for damaging Sébastien Buemi’s car - later retired with suspected damage to his rear suspension, with Daniel Ricciardo’s HRT stopping on-track.

Vettel’s third and final stop came on Lap 30, with Button appearing to be favourite for victory as the German took on the slower, Medium compound tyres; however his pace proved to be adequate in overtaking the McLaren, which pitted on Lap 32 for brand-new Softs. As Vettel consolidated his lead, Alonso lost both second and third places to Webber and Button, respectively using DRS on Laps 37 and 42.

During the first pit-stop window, Webber had pulled a spectacularly courageous manoeuvre on Alonso as the pair headed towards Eau Rouge on the eighth tour, narrowly avoiding contact at high speed.

Also on Lap 42, Schumacher – shooting to the top five from the very back of the grid – overhauled fuel-saving team-mate Rosberg as Adrian Sutil and Force India scored six more points in seventh. Having been penalised for hitting Hamilton’s car in qualifying, Pastor Maldonado successfully recovered to tenth from 21st on the grid and therefore scores his first point in Formula 1.

Vettel’s win means he has already scored more points than during the entire title-winning season of 2010. His 17th career victory moves him back ahead of Lewis Hamilton in the overall statistics, as the tally of Britain’s Stirling Moss is also bettered.

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24 posted on 08/28/2011 3:42:04 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Moltke
i got the Austrian or German feed on line so i don't know...
25 posted on 08/28/2011 3:42:28 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Elle Bee
he's becoming the Richard Petty of F1...
26 posted on 08/28/2011 3:43:37 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
don't pick on us old guys LOL

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27 posted on 08/28/2011 3:45:00 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee


28 posted on 08/28/2011 3:47:14 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

The pass that Webber pulled on Alonso heading into Eau Rouge...good grief.

}:-)4


29 posted on 08/29/2011 5:17:21 AM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: Moose4
indeed...
30 posted on 08/29/2011 3:12:40 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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