Don't like Perry? How about promoting your candidates positives?

8/27/11 | Listenhillary

[listenhillary]

We are adults and most on FR are very intelligent persons. I think we can decide if a candidate is right for us.

How about stop repeating the same Gardasil, Texas corridor, immigration stories over and over and over. Most have seen them by now if they have been paying attention. Most have judged the stories and condemn Perry to hell for them or they think that a president just might have different priorities than a state governor.

Screaming at us in all caps isn't going to change any minds. FR isn't the entire universe of voters. We are a very small pool of voters. If you're hell bent on trashing a candidate, it is likely that your efforts are wasted trying to persuade FR posters to change their minds about a candidate. Start standing out by the road with a sign telling your horror stories, pestering people in restaurants and buying billboards and advertising in newspapers and TV. You will have much more impact.

If you insist on cherry picking the negatives, can we do the same to you reviewing every decision and action that you have taken in your life? How would that work out for you? Honestly showing everything you have done, could you withstand the scrutiny?

I realize some of you insist that we are making a horrible mistake. The primary isn't until next year. Stop screaming. OK?

[listenhillary]

Chill out people.

[cripplecreek]

No lets not talk about what’s wrong with St Rick. LOL

[E. Pluribus Unum]

You mean like every time Palin is brought up, call her a "quitter" and pretend like there is no context and that she is therefore disqualified from doing anything except raising funds for your fake-conservative of choice?

[justsaynomore]

Gee, where were you when people on FR have been trashing Bachmann and Cain for the past 4 months.

[DRey]

I guess if you think her being a “quitter” is a positive, you should post it.

[buccaneer81]

Spot on!

[bgill]

Go, Cain!

[cripplecreek]

So far I haven’t seen one candidate get a free ride around here and Perry isn’t going to be any different.

[GeronL]

Yes, how dare we question him!

[listenhillary]

You are incapable of doing it aren’t you?

[nanetteclaret]

Welcome to the Religion Forum! Why don’t we talk about being Catholic vs. Protestant. We’ll have the same level of vitriol with a different change of subject.

[DRey]

They always take it back to Perry. Their candidate doesn’t seem to measure up so negativity is all they have. Nice try, though.

[mylife]

Oh listenhillary, we are just going to get cleansed if we don’t chill out.

Ixnay the ensenay!

[buccaneer81]

Childish.

[evets]

[SoConPubbie]

We are adults and most on FR are very intelligent persons.

And that's exactly why when you try and pimp a moderate as a conservative candidate for POTUS on a website that is devoted to the conservative cause you will be rightly informed of the flaws of said candidate.

Sorry, but the truth is the truth and it shows how ill-suited Perry is, from a conservative perspective, for the job of POTUS.

[listenhillary]

I haven’ seen anything new since the fist week. Regurgitate it often enough and it kind of resembles the stuff they make chicken mcnuggets out of.

[Bigtigermike]

Bingo! There is nothing new under the sun here at FR....it’s been that way for years and Palin has been exhibit #1

[gov_bean_ counter]

Did you know you are a DU troll???

Just wondering.. :)

[listenhillary]

OK, but you are NOT having any impact saying the same thing over and over on FR.

The primaries are months and months away. How about something we haven’t heard 50 times already?

[cripplecreek]

Guess I just don’t like manipulative, lying, bottom feeding scum.

[hellbender]

Gardasil, the TT Corridor, immigration, the Algore and Rudy G. endorsements are brought up over and over in a desperate attempt to inform people that no confirmed conservative would ever have done such things! Rick Perry is a career hack politician, not a conservative like Ronald Reagan. His ambitions have been restrained by the conservative instincts of Texans and their legislature. Once inside the Beltway, Slick Rick will do whatever it takes to prolong and expand his reign. Wake up, people!

We need a rebel, an outsider, not a sociopathic career politician to save this country. That means Herman Cain, who has never been a politician, or a citizen-politician like Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann. Those 3 are the real conservatives in this race. Do not be fooled.

[mylife]

Ted Nugent for Secretary of the interior.

I am dead serious.

[lonestar]

Apparently they can’t think of anything positive to say about the candidates of their choice!

[Persevero]

I don’t have a horse in the race, yet, but I’ll put out my general positive impressions:

Palin: Charismatic, bright, beautiful, bold, did great stuff in Alaska, can take the heat, consistently pro-life.

Perry: Charismatic, tough, can dish it out, a ‘winner’ type, handled the Texas economy well.

Huntsman: I got nothin’. Don’t mean any offense.

Romney: Looks good in a suit, articulate, has an ‘heir apparent’ mantle, has the money, seems generally competent.

Ron Paul: has integrity, sound fiscal policy

That is honestly the only people I can remember who are running. Sarah actually isn’t officially running.

[o2bfree]

After Rick Perry gets nominated, the question for you will be this. Would you support Rick Perry for President in Nov 2012 over the Democratic Socialist President Obama... a man who’s got the worst economic record since Jimmy Carter.

[Norm Lenhart]

You advocate people just shut up and not mention a candidate’s issues? That’s what liberals say about Obama’s opponents.

Are you serious? Please tell me you are kidding.

[muawiyah]

I’m not running or public office. Rick is. If he’s a big boy he can take it and so can his syncophants.

[BobL]

“Don’t like Perry? How about promoting your candidates positives?”

Why?

[mylife]

I love Herman Cain but it is obvious that he isn’t a contender.

[PROCON]

And that's exactly why when you try and pimp a moderate as a conservative candidate for POTUS

Is there a possibility that you're an FR liberal?

Me thinks so, you seem to hate the real conservatives!

[mrmeyer]

He’d be great.

[gunsequalfreedom]

OK, my candidate will return all troops from Afghanistan and station them along the border with Mexico with the excutive order going out the first day in office. He will also have already ordered 50,000 National Guard troops to mobilze to the border until the regular troops get there.

[Persevero]

Let me add now, Bachmann and Cain, no deliberate diss there, I just didn’t remember them.

Bachmann: Energetic, good on the issues, hard campaigner, tea party solid.

Cain: Solid successful businessman, good in debates, makes good succinct points.

[Diogenesis]

Why don’t you just explain why OPEN BORDERS
and GARDASIL BY MANDATE are conservative positions?

[mcmeador]

Unfortunately, I don’t have a candidate to support right now. The only thing I can do with the current field is spread the word about the ones who would definitely be horrible for our country. That means my efforts will focus on Perry because he is the absolute worst and one of the leading candidates.

[NEPAConservative]

My Candidate didn’t support or work for ALGORE. How’s that for positive?

[muawiyah]

We had Perrybots 5 or 6 years ago on here trying to CHANGE the meaning of RINO so that by the time Perry got into a major election campaign we'd all forgotten it didn't necessarily mean "Liberal".

His peeps have been preparing for this almost since they were helping out the Algore, and maybe Edwards!

[Oceander]

Actually, you know, on the immigration issue I think that I would agree at least in part with Ms. Palin as well. After all, she did say, back in 2008, when she was asked if all illegal immigrants should be deported:

There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant--there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants--not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue.

In fact, the interviewer then asked To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?, to which Ms. Palin replied:

I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

Seems like Perry's got quite a lot in common with Ms. Palin when it comes to immigration issues.

'Course, some other folk might take that as pandering to leftists and criminals.

[cripplecreek]

I’m nearly 50 years old, that crap doesn’t work with me. I really don’t care who you clowns choose to blame. I’ve got my own conscience and soul to worry about.

[DRey]

Guess I just don’t like manipulative, lying, bottom feeding scum.

Don't be so hard on yourself. We still like you.

[listenhillary]

Some of us HAVE looked into the stories. I’m not sure who the hell I’m going to vote for.

Some repeat the same stories that they have seen through the eyes on one or two bloggers interpretations of the events.

Want to have an impact? Take your discussion outside of FR. Buy ads in newspapers and TV telling the rest of the story according to your view of the events. Write letters to the editors of your local papers.

It’s a marketplace of ideas. If you win, I’ll vote for the Republican nomination for president. I’d just like to hear something NEW.

[PROCON]

My Candidate didn’t support or work for ALGORE. How’s that for positive?

Ronald Reagan was a DEMOCRAT until he came to his senses, how's THAT for positive?

[NEPAConservative]

TX Gov. Rick Perry Attends Bilderberg in Istanbul, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90jfQrb4wAE

[mylife]

I think what “listenhillary” is saying is instead of turning FR into a lets hate Perryfest, lets promote positive reasons that we like the other candidates.

IMHO I think we should make FR a place that says the city dog catcher is worlds above this jackass Obama.

[buccaneer81]

What the hell is your problem?

[SoConPubbie]

OK, but you are NOT having any impact saying the same thing over and over on FR.

You'd be surprised at the number of different people just lurking day by day, sometimes this month, sometimes next month.

These are defficiencies in a man claiming to be a conservative who wants to be POTUS, not dog-catcher, but POTUS.

And since the Perry Apologists will make every excuse possible for Perry, it behooves those of us not wanting "Just good enough" but an actual conservative to keep posting the truth about Perry.

I understand that those who have settled for Perry, who don't care about Illegal Immigration, who don't care that he signed a Hate Crimes Bill, or Guardisil, or the TTC, who don't care that he isn't a limited-government, individual-rights conservative would get tired of having the truth posted repeatedly, but for the sake of those who haven't made their minds up, and for the sake of the truth, we will continue to post the truth where Perry is concerned.

[EDINVA]

Congratulations! It took 25 posts to see one positive that actually responded to the thrust of the thread! With an amendment at 34. Good for you.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Perry will be quitting in the middle of his term, when he promised the people of Texas he wouldn't quit to run for President.

Does that count as quitting? Or just lying? Or both?

[listenhillary]

The exact same four or five issues have been discussed, rehashed for two weeks. Tell me something new or like the title says, tell me who I should vote for and why.