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Posted on 08/31/2011 12:22:11 PM PDT by DTA
Punched in the face, but fat chance charges will be laid
What constitutes a physical assault in Toronto these days?
This would appear to be straightforward. If, for example, one individual punches another, surely thats assault. Especially if the punch in question was witnessed. And photographed. But as I learned firsthand on Sunday, a fist in the face doesnt necessarily constitute assault in our increasingly culturally sensitive Toronto.
The details: I was at Yonge-Dundas Square with my nine-year-old son. We ate pizza. We drank bubble tea. And I used my new Canon camera to take photos of this neon shrine. Suddenly, a woman wearing a hijab ran toward me. She was part of a group that included two women wearing full face-covering burkas. She was screaming: We are Muslim! You do not take pictures of us! (Odd. I cant find the no photos rule in the Quran.)
I informed the lady I was in a public square in a democracy. I can actually take pictures of whomever I please. And then: Ka-pow! Her fist collided with my face. Worse, she almost knocked my new camera from my hands.
My son and I were then surrounded by a mob of about 20 people, many of whom were speaking Arabic. One kept demanding I surrender my camera to him.
It was surreal. Was I in Toronto or Riyadh?
I spotted a group of bicycle-mounted police officers. I burst through the mob with my son and made a beeline towards them. I told a Toronto Police officer what had happened and I wanted to press assault charges.
Better yet, a man and a woman came forward as eyewitnesses.
The 50-something couple, originally from Syria, told the police they had observed the entire affair and my allegations were true. The couple said they understood Arabic and knew what the mob was saying.
Alas, my Spidey Senses started to tingle when I overheard the questions being asked of the witnesses. Was it a closed-fist punch or an open hand? Was it the front or the back of the hand?
Huh? Physical contact had been made. Why did severity matter? After the officer took my statement, he went over to the offending woman. Another constable was inexplicably miffed I was (legally) taking photos in the first place. The irony: Just above our heads a Toronto Police Service sphere was videotaping the activities.
The officer interrogated the woman. She was still hysterical. Good. The constable would encounter firsthand what I had been forced to deal with earlier.
The cop walked back to me. No charges would be laid, he said, because he believed the womans story namely, she was merely trying to knock the camera out of my hands. Got that? Apparently, attempted property damage is OK. If a face gets in the way of a would-be vandalizing fist... hey, accidents happen.
The Syrian eyewitnesses were speechless. I continued to plead my case.
Toronto Police cruisers are emblazoned with the slogan, To serve and protect. But increasingly, the unofficial slogan seems closer to, F.I.D.O. (Forget It; Drive On.) The fact we have Islamists living amongst us who despise western values isnt news. But surely you cant just sock someone in the mouth.
Well, apparently you can as long as the intent of the aggressor was merely to inflict property damage.
Worlds upside-down. Just thought you should know.
-Menzies is a freelance writer in Toronto
I would certainly trust a source that writes a headline like that.
Mastery of grade-school journalism is over rated.
It seems the idiotic illiterate title was yours.
Actual title "Yonge-Dundas smackdown 266 Punched in the face, but fat chance charges will be laid"
It's not MUCH better, but it's the REAL title.
I wonder what kind of headline you would choose if that happened to you?
Just remember that next time, if there is one.
Punch back and tell the cops you were trying to block their approaching hand and - whoops - it landed right on the kisser.
Response: The proper term, even under Canadian law, is NOT assault but battery. The two are often confused. There are American cases holding that hitting a plate in someone's hands, but not contacting the person, is still a battery. Hitting the fender of an occupied car has been held to be a battery.
Comment: The guy was an hysteric and the cop didnot want to be bothered with tons of paper work attendent upon an arrest with little or no injury or damage.
The fact is that you don't get to make up a headline for stuff not written by you.
I know, it's hard for you to grasp....
It's not mine. I quoted the actual headline from the print edition of August 3 2011 Toronto Sun. It seems it was edited for the online edition.
Your title just magically arrived by itself and pasted itself into the "title" field?
If a member of a minority group punches a white man, then that is fine.
That is just plain stupid.
There was a mob. had the woman punched back, the mob would’ve attacked. Then she would’ve been charged for hate crimes and inciting a riot...and most likely convicted.
I suspect that an arrest would have been made if the roles were reversed.
I never post before checking the facts.
This is the article to which you linked.
If you found it elsewhere with a title that made you hot, you should have posted from there.
The headline in your photo has punctuation and capitalization.
Send your kids to Mandarin language classes and aim them at careers in Asia. The West no longer has the will to endure, much less prosper.
It's a tough question. Click on pics 1,2, and 3 in Google search
Thanks for the ping, DTA
The wimp should have knocked the hibab-babe on her butt......I think you can do that under Sharia law can’t you?
Whether it’s hispanics in Texas or Mooselims in Canada, it’s always grand to have the local constables on your side when you’re invading a country.
Prime Minister of Ontario Dalton Mc Guinty is reported om Toronto Star for appeasing Islamofascists:
Thank you for opening the eyes of all Ontarians to the beautiful, peaceful, loving faith that is Islam, he said to loud cheers, adding that the province thrives on diversity.
At the same event, Islamofascists called for Muslim prayers in GOVERNMENT FUNDED schools, but that was not reported.
Islam means submission. Islam is religion of SUBMISSION, not peace. (Arabic term for peace is salaam, not islam)
The majority of Canadians are dhimmis who already accepted submission. Submission as "submit or die"
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