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4:30 a.m. mowing leads to Oklahoma City man's arrest
newsok.com ^ | 9-1-11 | MATT PATTERSON

Posted on 09/01/2011 10:04:27 AM PDT by rawhide

An Oklahoma City man said he was doing a good deed when he was arrested and cited for mowing his yard and a neighbor's yard Friday morning.

Phil Ray Gage, 40, was arrested on a complaint of disturbing the peace after a neighbor called police to report him for mowing a lawn at 2529 NW 33 at 4:30 a.m., Oklahoma City police said.

He was released by police at the scene after he signed a citation for disturbing the peace.

But Gage said he's been mowing in the early morning hours for 10 years, and nobody has complained before.

He said when he was arrested he was in the process of finishing up mowing his neighbor's yard.

“When the officer came up to me she asked me if I knew it was illegal to mow at that time of day,” Gage said. “I thought she was cracking a joke. Then she told me to get up against the car, and she put cuffs on me.”

Gage said he mows in the early morning hours because of the heat and because it fits his work schedule best.

Gage said the light from his neighbor's yard and his yard provides enough light for him to mow.

“I'm a carpenter, so I have to mow when I can,” he said. “That time is just what works best because of the heat and my job.”

Gage said he never has had problems with his neighbors.

“We all know each other,” he said. “We watch out for each other's houses. I have phone numbers for just about all my neighbors except for the guy that lives across the street. I don't know him as well.”

Gage said he would have stopped mowing in the early morning hours if someone had asked him to.

“I just wished he would have talked to me about it before he called the police,” he said. “If people wanted me to stop, I'd stop.”

Gage said he intends to fight the ticket.

“I'm going to try to fight it,” he said. “It's unreal how I got treated for mowing a yard.”

According to police reports, Gage became argumentative when officers arrived and asked him to turn off his mower, but Gage said he complied immediately.

“I did what she told me to do,” he said. “Believe me, if I had said one thing to her she would have taken me to jail.”

The neighbor who called police could not be reached for comment Tuesday.


TOPICS: Outdoors
KEYWORDS: mow; mowing
Why didn't the cops just ask him to stop mowing at that time in the morning, give him a warning and, leave it at that?
1 posted on 09/01/2011 10:04:35 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

Because it wouldn’t produce the revenue that a fine will bring in.


2 posted on 09/01/2011 10:08:48 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Hope he appeals.


3 posted on 09/01/2011 10:10:04 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I want a Triple A president for our Triple A country)
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To: rawhide
Revenue. Everyone is one lawnmower away from being a criminal.
4 posted on 09/01/2011 10:10:45 AM PDT by Palter (Celebrate diversity .22, .223, .25, 9mm, .32 .357, 10mm, .44, .45, .500)
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To: rawhide

See! You hit the nail on the head.

I too would be HUGELY annoyed if my neighbor used his noisy lawnmower at 4:30

But an ARREST? That too the first time the police came by?

Something is amiss here. If I had to guess, Mr. Sleepless in Oklahoma mouthed off to the female officer

Since he was released ON THE SCENE with a ticket, it makes me thing he was being argumentative.

I always tell everyone, even if the police officer is completely in the wrong, don’t lose your cool. It will never work. If the fuzz is honest, you will just offend him with your mouth. If the fuzz is crooked, he will now go out of his way to punish you.


5 posted on 09/01/2011 10:11:47 AM PDT by SoftwareEngineer
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To: rawhide

The guy across the lake from me always mows after dark. I’m a morning mower and my neighbor behind me mows in the afternoon.


6 posted on 09/01/2011 10:12:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The GOP has been "moderated" into a coma.)
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To: rawhide

The “rules of engagement” for police has gotten WAY out of control. Assume the position and hand cuffed for noise ordinance violation. Tasered at traffic stops. Dogs shot because they are there. Property seized for any reason the officer can come up with. We are indeed in a Police State.


7 posted on 09/01/2011 10:12:54 AM PDT by Boiling point (Cain / Palin 2012)
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To: rawhide

What amazes me with this story is that most neighbors are concerned about houses that don’t mow... the grass getting super high. Not everyone works Monday through Friday (9-5). Some folks work rotating shifts, some evenings and some midnights. All the neighbor had to do is ASK this man not to mow that early. Just ask, nicely. Once again, someone runs to the cops instead of being civil, introducing themselves and asking the person to stop. Sheesh!


8 posted on 09/01/2011 10:14:21 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: rawhide

My friend lived in a high-meth neighborhood in California. He said most of his neighbors were out doing yardwork at three in the morning.


9 posted on 09/01/2011 10:16:55 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: SoftwareEngineer
If I had to guess, Mr. Sleepless in Oklahoma mouthed off to the female officer

But then you would be guessing. That may not be the case.

I have seen some totally out of control cops hollering at totally polite citizens.

10 posted on 09/01/2011 10:17:01 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: rawhide

Why didn’t the cops just ask him to stop mowing at that time in the morning, give him a warning and, leave it at that?

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There’s always more to the story. I’m guessing he got all smart-ass with the cop. From the article: “I thought she was cracking a joke.”

Could be he was giving her attitude, and when she slapped the cuffs on him, he tried to pass if off a joke?

Just a theory.


11 posted on 09/01/2011 10:18:51 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it.)
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To: momtothree
someone runs to the cops instead of being civil, introducing themselves and asking the person to stop. Sheesh!

That's the crux of this issue. Add to that the fact that the guy is one of those nice neighbors who takes the time to help out his neighbor by cutting his grass too......

I just hope he keeps his "nice neighbor" attitude and doesn't get bitter over this.........

12 posted on 09/01/2011 10:23:27 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (FREE YOUR BREASTS! FREE YOUR MIND!)
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To: ladyjane

You are correct, it is just a guess. Trying to put two and two together. Especially the fact that he was released on the scene. Normally when the fuzz is on a power high, they haul you to jail just to humiliate you and do the perp pics.


13 posted on 09/01/2011 10:25:23 AM PDT by SoftwareEngineer
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To: rawhide

During many years of delivering pizzas, I was always amazed at how many people I saw mowing their lawn between midnight and 3 AM.


14 posted on 09/01/2011 10:25:40 AM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: SoftwareEngineer

LOL, I haven’t heard cops refered to as the fuzz in years.

Is grass still growing in OK? As hot as it has been and the fires I would think that grass cutting wasn’t a big priority.

If that had been me I probably would have gotten a DUI. I like a frosty friend with me when I cut grass. However, 4:30 am might be a little early for one.

My neighbor would have put a magnum round through the motor then rolled over and went back to sleep.


15 posted on 09/01/2011 10:27:08 AM PDT by cork
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To: rawhide

Because the copette would not have gotten to show the balls she carries on her belt and because she probably has an IQ just high enough to get hired.

Nobody mows a lawn at 0430 to disturb the peace. He does it because it makes sense.


16 posted on 09/01/2011 10:30:08 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I agree! The man sounded like a good person who knew his neighbors, had their phone numbers and was also cutting his neighbor’s lawn. What’s the old saying... “you get more from honey than you do vinegar?” If the newer neighbor had a problem, all he had to do was ask the man nicely... then said he was a light sleeper or whatever. I know one neighbor that has crazy hours for work. He is doing the best he can do working two jobs and trying to keep his house looking nice. I’ve seen his lawnmower with flashlights attached to it because he sometimes mows after 9 at night.


17 posted on 09/01/2011 10:32:15 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: rawhide

I would almost say that there is more to this story than is being reported.


18 posted on 09/01/2011 10:38:28 AM PDT by donhunt (I am sick and tired of those bastards insulting and lying to me.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Because it wouldn’t produce the revenue that a fine will bring in.

Yep, and as cities start feeling the "crunch" they will go after everybody for everything they can. Jay walking, spitting on the sidewalk, talking too loud, you name it.

We have become a police state and we have allowed it to happen.

19 posted on 09/01/2011 10:39:30 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: rawhide
Why didn't the cops just ask him to stop mowing at that time in the morning, give him a warning and, leave it at that?

The officerina did what she was trained to do, exercise authority to the exclusion of other reasonable options.

SOP.

20 posted on 09/01/2011 10:47:33 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: rawhide
Calling the cops? What ever happened to the old fashioned method of opening your window and cursing at him for mowing at 4:30 in the @($*@$#(# morning? I only did that once for a neighbor whose pack of dogs started barking at 5:00 every day for a couple of weeks. I'm surprised I didn't get a visit from the cops for disturbing the peace when I got fed up and yelled at them.
21 posted on 09/01/2011 11:00:22 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Due to the earthquake the president has officially implemented Rule 18-1.)
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To: rawhide
“I just wished he would have talked to me about it before he called the police,” he said. “If people wanted me to stop, I'd stop.”

According to police reports, Gage became argumentative when officers arrived and asked him to turn off his mower,

Something doesn't jibe between those two sentences.

22 posted on 09/01/2011 11:04:19 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: rawhide
This is especially dumb because of the heat this summer...

Maybe this person couldn't mow any other time? Just give them a warning or ticket. Why did they have to arrest them?
23 posted on 09/01/2011 11:14:27 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Palter

In the words of that great American lawn maintenance technician, Clyde (Big Boy) Prince: “I’ll give you my lawnmower when you take it from my cold, dead hands.”


24 posted on 09/01/2011 11:28:03 AM PDT by jmax
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To: Moonman62
Something doesn't jibe between those two sentences.

What I suspect is that he replied "No" and that to the LEOs constituted 'argumentative'.

25 posted on 09/01/2011 11:35:37 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: rawhide
How to avoid getting arrested at 4:30 a.m. (They forgot: no noise!)


26 posted on 09/01/2011 12:31:19 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Moonman62
According to police reports, Gage became argumentative when officers arrived and asked him to turn off his mower,

I suspect it went something like this:

Officer: turn off your mower
Lawnboy; WHAT?
Officer: I SAID TURN OFF YOUR MOWER
Lawnboy: WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE MOWER
Officer: TURN ... IT ... OFF
Lawnboy: YES, IT IS HOT, THAT'S WHY I'M MOWING THIS EARLY ... HEY!!! WHAT'S WITH THE CUFFS?
and of course they were shouting!

27 posted on 09/01/2011 1:14:45 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (So much stress was put on Bush's Fault that it finally let go, magnitude 6)
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To: rawhide

Why are politicans, government workers and the cops acting like bullies these days? It is a culture and attitude of socialism that disrespects and assumes total control over “the masses.” It is not the same as a constitutional culture that respects and expects citizens to control themselves.

If you call the police these days, know you are calling for people to be seriously harmed - physically and/or legally. Call the police in a life and death situtation only unless you are a sadistic socialist. You know the outcome of harm before you pick up the phone.


28 posted on 09/01/2011 4:13:40 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: rawhide
To bad we can't follow cases like this over time. What might happen to him next if he challenges the ticket in court and because of the adverse publicity to the police?
29 posted on 09/02/2011 3:39:52 AM PDT by Truth29
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