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Dunning Iron Age find shows Roman-Pictish link
BBC News ^ | August 31st 2011 | unattributed

Posted on 09/01/2011 6:35:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Archaeologists working near the village of Dunning found an Iron Age broch which has evidence of early contact between the Picts and the Roman Empire.

The broch -- a drystone wall structure -- is the first of its kind to be found in the Scottish lowlands for 100 years.

Evidence shows that the Roman dwelling was destroyed by fire and then probably reoccupied by a Pictish warlord...

Brochs were the preferred residence of the elite during Roman times. The team said the "exquisitely preserved" Dunning example was built at the top of a hill and offers a 360-degree views of the surrounding countryside.

It was also "massively fortified" with 5m (16.4ft) thick drystone walls.

It appears to have been destroyed by fire before the Picts built a palisaded fortress directly on top of the site...

A wide range of Roman trade goods have been discovered in the broch, including a bronze patera, a glass vessel and an unusual lead bowl.

The Professor of Historical Archaeology at the University of Glasgow said it was "not unreasonable" to conclude the broch was the seat of a Celtic chieftain who collected luxury objects from the Roman world...

Serf archaeologists believe the broch is the best example of an Iron Age Roman site being reoccupied by the Picts.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: agricola; antoninewall; caledonia; gaskridge; germanlimes; godsgravesglyphs; hadrianswall; pictish; picts; romanempire; scotland; scotlandyet
A number of Roman trade goods were found inside the broch

Dunning Iron Age find shows Roman-Pictish link

1 posted on 09/01/2011 6:35:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
In before the Pink Floyd jokes.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 09/01/2011 6:37:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Always control the high ground, some rules never change.


3 posted on 09/01/2011 6:37:37 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: SunkenCiv

This Thread Is Useless Without Picts.


4 posted on 09/01/2011 6:39:20 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Yours.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Serf archaeologists?

Watching a game also, just checking in.


5 posted on 09/01/2011 6:43:41 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: SunkenCiv
A wide range of Roman trade goods have been discovered in the broch, including a bronze patera, a glass vessel and an unusual lead bowl.

Amazing they found any artifacts -- you'd expect the site to be Pict clean...

6 posted on 09/01/2011 6:46:15 PM PDT by mikrofon (Roman the countryside)
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To: Charles Henrickson
This Thread Is Useless Without Picts.

One of the all-time best. Bravo.

7 posted on 09/01/2011 6:46:28 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: SunkenCiv

Archaeologists found some of the artifacts by just Roman around.


8 posted on 09/01/2011 6:55:03 PM PDT by blam
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To: Charles Henrickson
Looks like she wants her bronze patera back.


9 posted on 09/01/2011 7:06:48 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: SunkenCiv

I’ll bet a lot of people got Kelt over that.


10 posted on 09/01/2011 8:02:58 PM PDT by decimon
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To: justa-hairyape

She was a b##ch in that movie!


11 posted on 09/01/2011 8:13:55 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Ciexyz

Nothing more angry then a woman without a tongue. She was amazing in that last scene when she came into that Fort on her white horse. Would not want her tracking me down.


12 posted on 09/01/2011 8:27:06 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Charles Henrickson
"This Thread Is Useless Without Picts."

I guess there were shortages of cameras and portrait painters during their time. Romans described them as being short and dark, so I reckon that they were pretty short and pretty dark. They may have come from some part of India and settled in the area of southern Germany before moving on to the area of Scotland.


13 posted on 09/01/2011 8:30:27 PM PDT by familyop ("Plan? There ain't no plan!" --Pigkiller, "Beyond Thunderdome")
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To: familyop
Trouble with that theory is that there is no evidence of dark skin in the Scottish. They are as white as they come. Also, the Romans would not need to build a wall the breadth of the island to keep out some short people. The Romans were getting their buts handed to them on silver platters. They had to build a giant wall which got overrun and rebuilt numerous times.

My surname line comes from the Pictish area of Scotland. We held manors and some other buildings in areas that trace back to Pictish known history. Of course long after the Romans the Vikings did a number on the Pictish Kings, they certainly did not kill all the Picts. Mostly the Picts in the far north were wiped out.

14 posted on 09/01/2011 11:19:25 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Charles Henrickson; Red_Devil 232; mikrofon; blam; decimon

They had good teeth up there because so many studied tanistry.

[crickets chirping]

Sure it sucks, but you loched up all the good ones.


15 posted on 09/02/2011 2:27:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: justa-hairyape

The Romans didn’t keep getting their butts handed to them, there simply wasn’t anything worth the cash and effort n of Hadrian’s Wall. In a way that may have been a consequence of Trajan’s conquest of Dacia, which was the largest single payoff in Roman history (the gold mines). His successor was Hadrian, who wanted to bang little boys in the butt undisturbed, and had to be talked out of retreating from Dacia, but who did retreat from the Persian Gulf, built the Wall. And once the wall was up, the frontier was quiet, other than the considerable economic activity. After the Romans left, part of the wall was used as a quarry for building stone. Most of the rest of the wall had been made of turf, as the Antonine Wall had been some miles to the north.


16 posted on 09/02/2011 2:47:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Map Showing Location of Hadrians Wall

17 posted on 09/02/2011 2:50:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Fine. Show me other examples of these Roman built walls that were meant to keep out entire nations.


18 posted on 09/02/2011 3:52:03 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh. Another point. Some of the losing Celtic royalty retreated into Pictland. So at least the Lowlands were rich in targets. They were later followed by the losing Anglo-Saxon royalty as they fled the Normans. They were a bunch of reasons why a Scottish King eventually sat on the English throne.


19 posted on 09/02/2011 4:00:51 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape; SunkenCiv
Show me other examples of these Roman built walls that were meant to keep out entire nations.

Limes Germanicus. Limes Tripolitanus.

20 posted on 09/02/2011 2:21:57 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

Wow. Learned something new today. So the Romans on at least 3 locations built major defensive lines on borders with nations they failed to conquer completely. We normally do not hear about Roman failures during their glory days. From what I gather, the Romans were never supposed to venture out of their Germanic forts during the night. One legion that did was completely lost.


21 posted on 09/02/2011 3:57:19 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
I believe the African wall was to keep the Garamantians out of Africa (Tunisia) and Tripolitania.

The Germans were pesky everywhere, but the biggest problem was fortifying the area between the Rhine and Danube, where there was no natural barrier.

There were some others. Here's a Wiki on them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limes

Somebody or some group maintains a series in Wiki about the ancient Roman military and I've found it pretty reliable.

22 posted on 09/02/2011 4:04:06 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker; justa-hairyape

Also in Dacia, and in Syria, the latter being more along the limes, oops, lines of the Tripolitanus. The German Limes are the longest known, some 550 km, and for the most part built to fill the gap between the Rhine and Danube. The frontier from the North Sea to the Black Sea consumed a good portion of the Roman army (seven regular legions, more during campaigns, and at least that many auxiliaries), and was maintained for centuries. And of the five major naval bases, two were located on the Rhine-Danube frontier.

http://www.jstor.org/pss/1787358


23 posted on 09/02/2011 7:18:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limes_Arabicus

http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/430


24 posted on 09/02/2011 7:20:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: justa-hairyape

That happened because Queen Lizzie was a lezzie.


25 posted on 09/02/2011 7:21:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

That was because the northmen kicked the Romans buts when they ventured up north. Very simple actually. Northerners were bigger and stronger then the runt Romans from the south.


26 posted on 09/02/2011 7:38:59 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: SunkenCiv
That happened because Queen Lizzie was a lezzie.

So all your arguments are backed up by homos and lezzies. No need to go further with any of that.

27 posted on 09/02/2011 7:43:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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