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Human intervention; killing barred owls to help spotted owls
Oregon Live ^ | March 01, 2011

Posted on 09/05/2011 4:58:10 PM PDT by SJackson

Wildlife biologists are proposing to shoot hundreds or even thousands of Pacific Northwest barred owls as a way to protect the endangered Northern spotted owl. Barred owls are larger, more aggressive and have been taking over spotted owl territory for the past 20 years. The proposal to shoot barred owls is part of a federal spotted owl recovery plan that will be released soon.

Whether to intervene in what some see as a natural competition between species is a matter of hot debate among biologists, conservationists and the timber industry, which argues that we've set aside huge chunks of habitat for a bird that now can't be saved.

Human action has consequences. Here's my barred owl story from February and a couple other odd and cautionary tales.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: barredowl; spottedowl

1 posted on 09/05/2011 4:58:13 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

“barred owls” ???

barn owls ???


2 posted on 09/05/2011 5:00:20 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
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3 posted on 09/05/2011 5:00:20 PM PDT by SJackson (Free Palestine, return it to the inhabitants who had the land taken by the Romans, Alan West)
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To: SJackson

We are total a******.


4 posted on 09/05/2011 5:00:53 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SJackson

This is affirmative action for the spotted owls - shoot the others. When can we expect this sort of treatment from the ACORN types? Also, why is it that those most sold on Darwinian survival of the fittest, take the most pains to ensure that it won’t be given an opportunity to function?


5 posted on 09/05/2011 5:01:06 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: SJackson

“barred owls” ???

jail birds ???


6 posted on 09/05/2011 5:01:34 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SJackson
Lefties believe in evolution except when they don't.
7 posted on 09/05/2011 5:03:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: SJackson; Salvation

Logging in Oregon was pretty much shut down because of the SPOTTED OWL over the past 20+ years....now they’ve “discovered” it was the BARRED OWL which was killing the Spotted Owl....and are going to kill THEM....but, they won’t admit they killed logging industry, nor open it back up without a fight....a HUgE FIGHT....Oregon Ping


8 posted on 09/05/2011 5:12:42 PM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They believe in it but they want to keep it from happening. So they don’t want you to be armed (saving criminals) and they want to require seatbelts and helmets (saving reckless drivers) and ban cigarettes (saving would-be smokers). They also support a vast welfare state (saving many leeches). For starters.


9 posted on 09/05/2011 5:13:35 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: SJackson
I live in North Jersey and have two owls that reside in a “barn” on my property. One I found on the driveway about 6 years ago as a chick, feed and nursed him back into shape and am told he patterned me, I am an owl to him, Finbar is a good friend and keeps the crows in line, will come to see me if I am out after dusk, scares the hell out of the dogs.

The other resident is Margret, she is the boss, give me a wide birth but is Finbars mate, she arrived two years ago.

Finbar is in charge of crows, Margret covers all other editable trespassers.

10 posted on 09/05/2011 5:14:12 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: SJackson

I read here on FR at least a couple of years ago, which I did not keep, that barred owls are from the East coast, but over the years have been making their way to the West coast. There they have found the love of their life...the spotted owl. They have taken up housekeeping together and produce little chicks.

These environmentalists are a bunch of mean whackos…all because of natural breeding habits.


11 posted on 09/05/2011 5:19:46 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Rumplemeyer

Thank you for that wonderful, wonderful story.

It made me smile. It also made me feel happy.


12 posted on 09/05/2011 5:23:57 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: SJackson

Oh boy, Rush really needs to do one of his Animal Rights Updates on this!


13 posted on 09/05/2011 5:24:31 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: Tennessee Nana

Barred owl

http://mobile.wikipedia.org/transcode.php?go=barred+owl&PHPSESSID=gjotvkq1p0okf06bk8cvt48l24


14 posted on 09/05/2011 5:24:48 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The democratic party is the greatest cargo cult in history.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Barred owl

http://mobile.wikipedia.org/transcode.php?go=barred+owl&PHPSESSID=gjotvkq1p0okf06bk8cvt48l24


15 posted on 09/05/2011 5:24:57 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The democratic party is the greatest cargo cult in history.)
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To: SJackson

I guess the only way to protect the barred owl is open season on the spotted owl.

SSS!


16 posted on 09/05/2011 5:32:50 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I Stand With Sarah!)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); SJackson

Barred Owls (Strix varia) are plentiful here in North Louisiana. Their call is quite distinctive: “Who, who who cooks for you, who cooks for you all.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5zc-NHIipw&feature=related


17 posted on 09/05/2011 5:35:33 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Rumplemeyer
It's more than patterning. A recent Science News piece revealed many birds can learn to recognize individuals and pass on the information to other birds (of the same species).

I like to befriend mocking birds and crows. Get them to talk.

18 posted on 09/05/2011 5:44:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: abb

That is really cute!!! Thank you.


19 posted on 09/05/2011 5:47:17 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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20 posted on 09/05/2011 5:56:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: abb

Thank you so much for the video. I really enjoyed it. I loved it.

As a little kid growing up in Panama, I would hear these wonderful owls in the middle of the night. They would scare the devil out of me, and I would hide under the covers.


21 posted on 09/05/2011 5:57:13 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: SJackson

Anybody have plans for barred owl houses or how to attract them?


22 posted on 09/05/2011 6:32:27 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: SJackson

This is “evolution in action.” Why are we intervening?


23 posted on 09/05/2011 7:03:27 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: SJackson

does this mean we can start shooting the Canada geese taht are fouling our lakes and parks?


24 posted on 09/05/2011 7:04:27 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Rumplemeyer

Very KOOL!


25 posted on 09/05/2011 7:08:10 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: muawiyah

Had a pet Robin when I was a kid. Found him on the ground. Warmed him up in the oven. He grew up and was let go outside. He would come when my dad whistled for him, and land on his head. Amazing to see. Smarter than we think.


26 posted on 09/05/2011 7:13:29 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Tennessee Nana

LOL! I saw that and was wondering the same thing. Heck, if they’re barred, why not kill them?


27 posted on 09/05/2011 7:15:14 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: SJackson

Wasn’t there something in that evolution thingee about “survival of the fittest”?


28 posted on 09/05/2011 7:34:00 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: SJackson

must be nice to play god:

let this one live !! kill that one !!


29 posted on 09/05/2011 7:40:20 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: All

We should be shooting biologists and conservationists.


30 posted on 09/05/2011 7:40:39 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: SJackson; marsh2; Grampa Dave; B4Ranch; forester; ApplegateRanch

This may happen here in Humboldt County Calif. Most of the US Forest Service lands have been closed to logging due to the BS of the Spotted Owl. This was a make believe crisis cooked up by the Sierra Club et al and one local nut let slip that it was week science and they were already setting up the Three Toed Salamander as the boogie man to stop logging.

My daughter and I took a field trip with a group to a Spotted Owl study area on Simpson Timber co land. We went a few miles above Korbel Ca and witnessed a Simpson forester call in a pair of Owls that would grab a piece of hand held food by several of us. They were in a 40 acre patch that was next to several clear cuts


31 posted on 09/05/2011 8:05:40 PM PDT by tubebender (She was only a whiskey maker, but he loved her still.)
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To: Rumplemeyer

What a wonderful story? Are they barn owls or something else?

I love owls. When I was little, my family found a Western screech owl fledge who had fallen from a tree ... and then we discovered he had a clubfoot. Could never hunt or even hang onto a tree limb well. He became our friend and companion and lived in our house for 17 years (which is way past how long screech owls generally live). He was incredibly smart, sweet-natured and fun. Thanks for bringing back my memories.


32 posted on 09/05/2011 11:10:18 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ("And I'm actually happy to be, for us to be the moat with alligators party." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

maybe? don’t know.


33 posted on 09/06/2011 3:59:49 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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34 posted on 09/06/2011 9:38:24 PM PDT by united1000
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To: Rumplemeyer

Barn owls are very distinctive. They look like they have flat dinner plates around their eyes. :) If they don’t look like that, they’re something else. (You can always google “owls” and look at pictures — there aren’t THAT many kinds of owls! LOL!)


35 posted on 09/06/2011 10:14:39 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ("And I'm actually happy to be, for us to be the moat with alligators party." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: goodnesswins
Logging in Oregon was pretty much shut down because of the SPOTTED OWL over the past 20+ years....

On "Federal" land, perhaps. A lot of the State gets pretty well ravaged. And I'm no tree-hugger.

36 posted on 09/30/2011 10:01:48 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: gundog

Are you saying the the State Forest service is ravaging forests?


37 posted on 09/30/2011 12:53:06 PM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: goodnesswins

Forest managers like Plum Creek clear-cut at levels that I have a hard time believing are legal. Our State forests seem to be managed at sustainable levels. If you’ve got Google Earth, check out the Bone Mountain area in Douglas County. I understand that harvesting trees at 33 to 37 years of age is going to leave a checkerboard pattern on the landscape, but the above mentioned area can only be described as raped. No doubt some of this would be alleviated by lifting restrictions on federal forests, but we both know that ain’t gonna happen any time soon.


38 posted on 09/30/2011 1:10:08 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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