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What are bath salts? Acadia Hospital doctor explains dangerous new trend
Bangor Daily News ^ | Sept. 01, 2011 | Dr. Anthony T. Ng

Posted on 09/07/2011 4:46:57 PM PDT by mainevet

The alarming new drug bath salts is not the same as the bath salts which many people use for softer skin when they bathe. This new substance, which also has other innocuous names such as Monkey Dust, White Ivory or Kryptonite, is a synthetic drug that has seen an increase in use in Bangor and northern Maine since late last year.


TOPICS: Education; Local News; Reference
KEYWORDS: bathsalts; kryptonite; monkeydust; whiteivory
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It's currently an epidemic in Bangor.
1 posted on 09/07/2011 4:47:03 PM PDT by mainevet
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To: mainevet

And it’s aimed at white suburbans, apparently.


2 posted on 09/07/2011 4:48:48 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Well then, keep on trucking.


3 posted on 09/07/2011 4:50:03 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

?


4 posted on 09/07/2011 4:52:08 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: mainevet

It killed Superman......


5 posted on 09/07/2011 4:53:33 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (FREE YOUR BREASTS! FREE YOUR MIND!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

kryptonite in the bath salts ?


6 posted on 09/07/2011 5:01:19 PM PDT by MetaThought
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To: mainevet

It makes people ape-sh!t crazy - I’ve seen it!


7 posted on 09/07/2011 5:08:29 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
Your post:
"...aimed at white suburbans..."
 

Okay, so my play on words joke misse the mark.

8 posted on 09/07/2011 5:15:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

“And it’s aimed at white suburbans, apparently.”

Supply chases Demand and if there were no demand in these white suburbs you speak of, there would be no on aiming their supply to that group.


9 posted on 09/07/2011 5:15:45 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: mainevet; All

http://drugway.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/bath_salts.jpg

http://www.cbsnews.com/i/tim/2011/02/01/es_bathsalts_201_copy_480x360.jpg


10 posted on 09/07/2011 5:19:27 PM PDT by Morgana (I don't speak much...............but when I do....)
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To: trumandogz

In the case of addictive substances, supply creates demand.


11 posted on 09/07/2011 5:29:01 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

“In the case of addictive substances, supply creates demand.”

The drug trade does not escape the laws of economics.

If the people in those white suburbs demand a drug, it will be supplied.


12 posted on 09/07/2011 5:35:17 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: mainevet

Is this from the same people that got Four Loko banned because it was the most dangerous thing ever concocted by man? Eventhough it has the same active ingredients as Rum and Coke or Irish Coffee? That group?

Or is it the group that had Ma Huang banned because it was so damned dangerous that 1/2 the women in America happily lost weight on it?

That group?


13 posted on 09/07/2011 5:38:27 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: mainevet
It's currently an epidemic in Bangor.

What percentage of the population is infected?

14 posted on 09/07/2011 5:44:58 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: netmilsmom
This is bad stuff and already destroying life's. K2 is bad stuff and needs to be banned as well. Serious side effects worse than the “legal” drug. Don't take these lightly. I've already seen someone I love severly affected. Remember, Heroin, Cocaine, LSD were legal at one time
15 posted on 09/07/2011 5:50:10 PM PDT by lynn4303
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To: netmilsmom
This is bad stuff and already destroying life's. K2 is bad stuff and needs to be banned as well. Serious side effects worse than the “legal” drug. Don't take these lightly. I've already seen someone I love severly affected. Remember, Heroin, Cocaine, LSD were legal at one time
16 posted on 09/07/2011 5:50:10 PM PDT by lynn4303
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To: netmilsmom
This is bad stuff and already destroying life's. K2 is bad stuff and needs to be banned as well. Serious side effects worse than the “legal” drug. Don't take these lightly. I've already seen someone I love severly affected. Remember, Heroin, Cocaine, LSD were legal at one time
17 posted on 09/07/2011 5:50:10 PM PDT by lynn4303
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To: netmilsmom
This is bad stuff and already destroying life's. K2 is bad stuff and needs to be banned as well. Serious side effects worse than the “legal” drug. Don't take these lightly. I've already seen someone I love severly affected. Remember, Heroin, Cocaine, LSD were legal at one time
18 posted on 09/07/2011 5:50:10 PM PDT by lynn4303
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To: netmilsmom

The crew of Anoreth’s cutter were furious about the Four Loko ban. A gang of them were yelling at me over the phone, “Mrs. Tax-chick, we hate the government!!!” Nice children ... Anoreth is an excellent influence.


19 posted on 09/07/2011 5:50:42 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("True education is not an adjustment to the world, but a defense against the world.")
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To: lynn4303
Remember, Heroin, Cocaine, LSD were legal at one time

And, alcohol was illegal at one time, too.

Are we learning anything, yet?

20 posted on 09/07/2011 5:56:15 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: GnuHere

Last week, we had a 22 yo kid in my town take it. Later that evening, lying in the middle of US Route 1 he was run over and died.

http://www.wabi.tv/news/23191/orland-man-killed-in-bucksport-accident


21 posted on 09/07/2011 5:59:10 PM PDT by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: trumandogz

In the case of addictive substances, supply creates demand.

That is an inescapable fact. That is why the cigarette companies would hand out free cigarettes.


22 posted on 09/07/2011 6:01:00 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: lynn4303

So what IS this stuff? I’ve never heard of it before. What does it do?


23 posted on 09/07/2011 6:08:17 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: tacticalogic

Don’t know. Do know EMMC earlier this year saw 1 or 2 cases a week in ED and now they see at least 1 a day. Do know county jails won’t take them unless they’re have no symptoms.

http://bangordailynews.com/2011/06/24/news/bangor/bangor-police-deal-with-two-more-%E2%80%98bath-salts%E2%80%99-incidents/


24 posted on 09/07/2011 6:11:00 PM PDT by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: trumandogz

We have Keynesian Marxist economics.....so the laws of economics don’t apply.

Government interference destroys responsibility and creates unprecedented stress on households and destroys the family support. It is why the “drug epidemic” exists in the first place.....government interference. People don’t suffer the consequences of their actions in a welfare, socialist state and can afford to be careless and still live, supported by the productive, hard working suckers.


25 posted on 09/07/2011 6:24:42 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: mainevet
It's currently an epidemic in Bangor.

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."

H. L. Mencken
26 posted on 09/07/2011 6:29:46 PM PDT by microgood
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To: mainevet

Looks like nasty stuff.

I gotta wonder sometimes if this isn’t just nature’s way of culling the herd. But after all these years of watching this stuff, I don’t feel like I’ve gotten any closer to the answer. If there is one.


27 posted on 09/07/2011 6:42:55 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: lynn4303

I can tell you from working Psych, anyone who ends up with psychotic episodes after taking this...

1.) Had problems before taking it, most likely undiagnosed
2.) Is very likely to abuse another substance if available.

It’s not “this stuff”. It’s a propensity for trying chemicals to alter reality.


28 posted on 09/07/2011 6:47:28 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: mainevet

If it was the same number people showing up at the doctor’s office with the flu, would they consider it an epidemic?


29 posted on 09/07/2011 6:47:43 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: microgood
and hence clamorous to be led to safety

Not me. I'd just rather not run them over. It's hard enough avoiding all the deer and moose up here.

30 posted on 09/07/2011 6:48:42 PM PDT by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: tacticalogic

Of course not because this number of cases of the flu, in a given human population, and during a given period, would not substantially exceed what is expected based on recent experience.


31 posted on 09/07/2011 7:05:23 PM PDT by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
And it’s aimed at white suburbans, apparently.

That's racist!

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Now excuse me while I go shake down "Cracker Barrel" for some guilt-bucks!

32 posted on 09/07/2011 7:08:46 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!! Laz for President!)
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To: Vendome

LOL! Thanks for posting. I was thinking the same thing when I read that sentence.


33 posted on 09/07/2011 7:11:21 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Tax-chick

Such excellent influences are all too rare. Good job.


34 posted on 09/07/2011 7:17:49 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: netmilsmom
Stop the libertarian lunacy!

Yeah “bath salts” are dangerous designer drugs, made in China, marketed via independent “convenience stores”, targeting poor and ignorant USA teenagers, that have already been banned in Florida.

Kind of job security for “Psych” workers, don't you think?
Are you in a union job?
Or just a complete idiot?

35 posted on 09/07/2011 7:39:48 PM PDT by sarasmom ( A Fine is a Tax for doing wrong. A Tax is a Fine for doing well.)
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To: mainevet

Awhile back I posted an article here about bath salts here in Louisiana. The Parish I live in banned it and not too long afterwards the State of Louisiana banned it. It is some nasty stuff. The effects can linger for days. A few people here in my parish committed suicide after taking it, one took his life days after he took the stuff. Nasty stuff.


36 posted on 09/07/2011 7:56:59 PM PDT by BBell
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To: netmilsmom; ChildOfThe60s
check this out and see what you think...

A Lethal Dose

This is an article about an investigative report done by the Minneapolis Star Trib. normally I take a ll of their writings with a huge grain of salt, but a lot of these drugs are hallucinogenic and have similar or mimicing qualities to angel dust (PCP). almost anyone that takes that crap can become a psychotic - you don't need to be previously 'round the bend for that to happen...

37 posted on 09/07/2011 8:04:22 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: mainevet
St. Tammany Parish DA, sheriff warn parents about potent 'bath salt' drug
38 posted on 09/07/2011 8:04:22 PM PDT by BBell
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To: mainevet; netmilsmom; ChildOfThe60s

If you search bath salts here at FR you will come up with some disturbing articles.


39 posted on 09/07/2011 8:07:10 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

thanks for your posts.


40 posted on 09/07/2011 9:02:48 PM PDT by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
"In the case of addictive substances, supply creates demand."

"That is an inescapable fact. That is why the cigarette companies would hand out free cigarettes."

xackly. If you haven't seen this, then you don't get around much. ----Aquarian child of the Sixties. Yes, THOSE Sixties.

41 posted on 09/07/2011 9:07:50 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I love loving him," --brilliant Matha's Vinyud liberal explaining her support for Obama)
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To: netmilsmom

I want my Ma Huang back! It worked and I’m still angry I can’t have it anymore.


42 posted on 09/07/2011 9:21:33 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: mainevet
Of course not because this number of cases of the flu, in a given human population, and during a given period, would not substantially exceed what is expected based on recent experience.

What's the expected incidence of cases of drug OD, from recent experience?

43 posted on 09/08/2011 5:31:38 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

Don’t know that either. Good question for Dr. Ng.

http://www.wabi.tv/news/22528/bath-salts-it-ll-get-worse-before-it-gets-better-says-one-local-doctor

http://www.wabi.tv/news/22546/bath-salts-being-used-by-people-from-teens-to-retirement-age


44 posted on 09/08/2011 6:10:06 AM PDT by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: tinamina

Me too.

Isn’t it funny how Obesity is such a horrible disease yet everything that works to overcome it is taken off the market?


45 posted on 09/08/2011 7:03:28 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: mainevet

You’re not a “kid” at 22.


46 posted on 09/08/2011 7:07:11 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: mainevet

I agree there’s a problem, but is it the bath salts or the people? If you get rid of the bath salts and they just start in on something else, you didn’t really solve the problem. They’ll still show up in the ER, they’ll just show up OD’d on something else.


47 posted on 09/08/2011 11:05:27 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

I agree, they’ll get high on something else. Hopefully it will be something that doesn’t provide such an extreme hallucinogenic effect that they lie in the road get run over and die.


48 posted on 09/08/2011 12:39:41 PM PDT by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: mainevet; TASMANIANRED; MS.BEHAVIN
Learned of this just a few days ago in Appalachia and thought it was more than I needed to know then. Now Maine?

Wonder how bad this is in NYC, Boston, Philadelphia and the rest of the megalopolises?
49 posted on 09/08/2011 12:58:41 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: mainevet

“regulate and hope” has a familiar and disquieting ring to it, of late.


50 posted on 09/08/2011 2:01:54 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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