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Could this be the oldest pub in Scotland?
Daily Record ^ | Monday, September 5, 2011 | Charlie Gall

Posted on 09/07/2011 6:01:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

A historic site's true purpose may have been revealed -- as an Iron Age boozer.

Experts believe that 4600 years ago, thirsty natives may have been enjoying a pie and pint at Jarlshof in Shetland.

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And a dozen or so quernstones -- for grinding barley -- indicate it may have served as both a drinking den and a bakery.

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It contains remains dating from 2500 BC up to the 17th century.

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The building has a house next door which has a large souterrain -- which was the equivalent of a Iron Age refrigerator used for storing smoked or salted meats.

And during the early Iron Age, the site at Jarlshof was surrounded by crops of barley and emmer, a kind of wheat.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailyrecord.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; jarlshof; scotland; scotlandyet; shetland; shetlands; zymurgy
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Could this be the oldest pub in Scotland?

1 posted on 09/07/2011 6:01:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is ancient, so there's no good reason *not* to ping it.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 09/07/2011 6:03:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

3 posted on 09/07/2011 6:08:11 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: SunkenCiv

I visited a pub somewhere in or near Cornwall in 1977 where there were curtains of spider webs. Hundreds and hundreds of years worth of webs plus Hicks Special Draught...very fond, if sometimes indistinct, memories.


4 posted on 09/07/2011 6:14:32 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: SunkenCiv

Cool Pub, I wonder where the stage is located.


5 posted on 09/07/2011 6:32:53 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: JoeProBono; occamrzr06; SunkenCiv
Cool Pub, I wonder where the stage is located.

I like the fire extinguishers.

The pic of the one civ posted looks like a nice spot to break (my) drunken neck.

6 posted on 09/07/2011 6:45:56 PM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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To: SunkenCiv

I have a distant (very) relative who opened the first brothel on Manhattan Island. She used to go down to the harbor and moon the boats coming in to curry trade. She was Teddy Roosevelt’s sixth great grandmother.


7 posted on 09/07/2011 6:53:07 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: SunkenCiv

I’ve always wondered what ruins like these would have appeared as in real life.


8 posted on 09/07/2011 6:57:33 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Am The Person Whom I've Been Waiting For.)
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To: SkyDancer

9 posted on 09/07/2011 7:06:06 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Mercat
She was Teddy Roosevelt’s sixth great grandmother.

What did he do to the other five???

10 posted on 09/07/2011 7:06:47 PM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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To: Mercat
"She used to go down to the harbor and moon the boats coming in to curry trade."

I'm down with it.

11 posted on 09/07/2011 7:12:40 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik ("The trouble with internet quotations is that you don't know if they are true"-Abraham Lincoln.)
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To: JoeProBono

Must be a Guinness and he’s waiting for the foam to go down.


12 posted on 09/07/2011 7:16:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Am The Person Whom I've Been Waiting For.)
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To: JoeProBono

Is there a British regulation that there must be a fire extinguisher every 5 feet?


13 posted on 09/07/2011 8:14:57 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: SunkenCiv

want to go to shetland (and faroe islands) at some point. only real hangup is ferry time from the north of mainland. orkney is actually going to be done in the next year or so. orkney has some fabulous ancient sites as well.


14 posted on 09/07/2011 8:33:51 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: SunkenCiv

oh my gosh that pub was open for business for 3000 years? and out of business for 1/10th of that time? I would say that establishment might be worth reopening


15 posted on 09/07/2011 10:59:18 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: SunkenCiv

Looks like my kind of place.


16 posted on 09/07/2011 11:05:41 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think 4600 years back preceeds the celts, angles, saxons, norse, to the oldest indiginous residents of present day Scotland.

Whether the picts were celts, or were older residents seems unproved one way or the other.

Now we know regardless of who, they had the tradition of the British pub, and there is good in that.


17 posted on 09/07/2011 11:08:59 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: SunkenCiv

How much is a pint now? Been over ten years and I’m going back next month to East Anglia. Not that it matters, I’ll pay gladly


18 posted on 09/07/2011 11:47:15 PM PDT by strongbow
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To: WoofDog123

Ferry’s probably the only way in or out?


19 posted on 09/08/2011 12:59:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: bigheadfred

LOL!


20 posted on 09/08/2011 12:59:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Mercat

Hey, to build a legacy fortune, ya do what ya gotta do. ;’)


21 posted on 09/08/2011 1:00:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: JoeProBono; occamrzr06; bigheadfred; Last Dakotan

Given the attire, that’s probably a private residence.


22 posted on 09/08/2011 1:03:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: gorush

“The Brown Recluse” — that would be an excellent pub name, really. :’)


23 posted on 09/08/2011 1:04:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SkyDancer; JoeProBono; SnuffaBolshevik; Steve Van Doorn; BIGLOOK; truth_seeker; strongbow

Ancient or modern, these places always look different on the way in than they do on the way out.


24 posted on 09/08/2011 1:06:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Mercat

“I have a distant (very) relative who opened the first brothel on Manhattan Island. She used to go down ...”

stopped reading there


25 posted on 09/08/2011 1:12:41 AM PDT by fnord (Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
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To: SkyDancer

“Must be a Guinness and he’s waiting for the foam to go down.”

Should have ordered Olde Frothingslosh!
“The foam is on the bottom.”


26 posted on 09/08/2011 3:28:20 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SkyDancer

It’s called the cascade. I send the glass back if the bar tender lets it be served before the cascade is done.


27 posted on 09/08/2011 4:30:49 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: SunkenCiv

don’t know if they have any flights though I have never seen references to any (and I have read a good bit on the islands), I was certainly planning ferry to take the car I would have already to be in the north of the country.

Ferry is the only way to the hebrides or orkney, and pretty sure it is the only way to the faroe islands.


28 posted on 09/08/2011 7:24:48 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: strongbow

reasonably urban areas - nearly 3 quid. islands - more, up to mid-3’s.

very notable inflation there even over the past 2 years.


29 posted on 09/08/2011 7:27:29 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

That makes sense, not a lot of room to spare for runways.


30 posted on 09/08/2011 6:56:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
There is an airport at Kirkwall in the Orkneys.
31 posted on 09/09/2011 1:46:38 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

Thanks ct.


32 posted on 09/09/2011 3:25:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
The Royal Navy left Portsmouth for Scapa Flow in the Orkneys as a less vulnerable and better situated base. It is a vast anchorage and its small inlets are quite defensible. It served well in WWI and WWII, although not without attack. But given the technological changes and alliance systems after WWII it made sense to close it and move the home base back to Portsmouth.

Today there is a museum and an oil terminal for North Sea oil has been built.

33 posted on 09/09/2011 4:07:35 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Jarlshof, en Escocia, el yacimiento que el mar descubrió a finales del siglo XIX | Planeta Curioso

Jarlshof, en Escocia, el yacimiento que el mar descubrió a finales del siglo XIX | Planeta Curioso
Jarlshof archaeological site | Shetland, Scotland | Mystic Places

Jarlshof archaeological site | Shetland, Scotland | Mystic Places
Jarlshof archaeological site | Shetland, Scotland | Mystic Places

Jarlshof archaeological site | Shetland, Scotland | Mystic Places
Jarlshof archaeological site | Shetland, Scotland | Mystic Places

Jarlshof archaeological site | Shetland, Scotland | Mystic Places
Jarlshof archaeological site | Shetland, Scotland | Mystic Places

Jarlshof archaeological site | Shetland, Scotland | Mystic Places

34 posted on 12/20/2015 12:30:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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