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Girls with Guns
Military.com ^ | 09/06/11 | Military.com

Posted on 09/08/2011 1:07:34 PM PDT by Doogle

Girls just wanna have fun,, a couple of girls exercising the right to own and get proficient with firearms. OK, maybe they don't own em....

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TOPICS: Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Outdoors; Society
KEYWORDS: babes; banglist; girls; guns
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To: Ellendra

That’s a great article. I sent it to my son. Hopefully this will help him ‘get it’.

My daughter has always struggled with shooting. Her hands are too small, the guns are too heavy, she’s left-handed and left-eye dominate. (her right eye is terrible)

Because the guns never fit, she has trouble handling the recoil. She has to actually have less of a grip to reach the trigger.

The article described the rifle problem perfectly. Her shoulder has to roll back to accommodate the stock and she’s off balance. You can forget firing shots in rapid succession.

I have many of the same problems, but it’s not as bad. i still don’t feel comfortable with most of my husband’s guns. My son’s little .22 pistol is my favorite, but it’s about as effective as a bb gun and very cheaply made.

I guess that I’ll just have to take her out to many places so she can actually feel and try guns until she finds the right one.

She turns 21 in a year and wants to get her concealed carry permit. That give us a year to find the right weapon.


41 posted on 09/08/2011 2:44:37 PM PDT by Marie (I agree with everything that Rick Perry is saying. I just wish that *he* did. (NO to Bush II))
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To: Doogle
This thread requires more pictures:

gg1

gg2

gg3
42 posted on 09/08/2011 2:45:18 PM PDT by 3Fingas ( Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Doogle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C917QJH9GNM


43 posted on 09/08/2011 2:56:07 PM PDT by xp38
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To: AeWingnut

Big guns, small bikinis - good combo!


44 posted on 09/08/2011 3:01:12 PM PDT by reg45
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To: wardaddy

Your ladies are indeed very beautiful WD.....


45 posted on 09/08/2011 3:01:45 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: smokingfrog

You just have to help her fish out that hot cartridge!


46 posted on 09/08/2011 3:06:10 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Marie
Good for you! Whatever she's comfortable shooting will be great for her.

And you get a "Good Mama" sticker!

47 posted on 09/08/2011 3:15:03 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: Hot Tabasco

Sorry, brother. I guess that I just didn’t focus strongly enough on lesbians. I’ll definitely try harder to pay more attention to lady-on-lady action in the future.

Laz would approve. ;-)


48 posted on 09/08/2011 3:27:11 PM PDT by Marie (I agree with everything that Rick Perry is saying. I just wish that *he* did. (NO to Bush II))
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To: BreezyDog

Never mind the pistol, I think that right hip bone could do some damage.


49 posted on 09/08/2011 3:28:40 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: greatplains

Forget my daughter! I just found the gun that *I* want!

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Undercover_53711.html

I think I just lost my “Good Mama” sticker. lol!


50 posted on 09/08/2011 3:53:30 PM PDT by Marie (I agree with everything that Rick Perry is saying. I just wish that *he* did. (NO to Bush II))
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To: Marie

Your son is right, BTW, my daugther also has small hands...

She initially didn’t like the Glock grip (very few people do at first)

After she went to the range, used proper technique and shot it...she loves it...

The grip isn’t a problem. As a 1911 variant shooter (I have six). I recommended she buy the Glock for it’s simplicity, reliability and accuracy.

There are better guns for certain tactical situations but they require a lot of training and assume that you are in a ready leaning forward position.

For everyday carry for someone that doesn’t train regularly and wants an auto, I would only go with the Glock.


51 posted on 09/08/2011 4:00:27 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Ellendra

As a Dad, there comes a point that you let go and let your kids excecise the good judgement you hopefully instilled in them from a young age.

Just prove him wrong and make him proud at the same time.

It’s a win-win for both of you......

Happy shooting! :^)


52 posted on 09/08/2011 4:04:21 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Doogle

It’s not my daughter you would need to worry about....

My wife’s a better shot and meaner...

:^)


53 posted on 09/08/2011 4:06:41 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: TalonDJ

I’m going to take her gun shopping this winter. I’m sure we’ll find something that’ll fit.

This thread inspired me to try to get through to my son what we were dealing with.

I first had him hold the gun naturally, then place his finger on the trigger guard instead of the trigger. (This caused his finger to touch exactly where mine hits the trigger) He automatically shifted his grip to reach, so now the kick would be absorbed by the thumb instead of the wrist. (Injury)

I pointed this out to him and had him readjust the gun properly and once again try to put his finger on the guard. He couldn’t do it. My daughter and I have no choice but to shift our grip. That makes the whole set-up more unstable. You can’t manage the recoil as well which is why many women don’t like the larger caliber weapons.

This shift in grip also throws off your aim. Instead of locking your wrist nice and straight, you have to turn it in slightly. Now your wrist is even more unstable.

Add all of that awkwardness to the extra weight and you’ve got a trembling hand.

Before he got home, I did the calculations and figured out that the weight of the lighter revolver to me would feel about the same as the light revolver plus the heavier .38 special to him. I had him hold the two guns and tried to get him to feel the weight while trying to reach the trigger guard.

He tried to show me how I could still fire if I switched up my stance and shot two-handed.

I wanted to bang my head on the counter. “Yes, son. That’s what I’ll do. I’ll tell my attacker to stop kicking me in the head and give me a minute to stand up so I can achieve the proper two-handed stance and shoot him. That’ll work.”

It took all of that, but I think he’s starting to get it.


54 posted on 09/08/2011 4:13:08 PM PDT by Marie (I agree with everything that Rick Perry is saying. I just wish that *he* did. (NO to Bush II))
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To: Doogle


I am sure they own guns;-)
55 posted on 09/08/2011 6:13:15 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Doogle


I am sure they own guns;-)
56 posted on 09/08/2011 6:13:48 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Doogle
Understanding recoil:


57 posted on 09/08/2011 11:57:38 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: nevergore

considering how many simple to use autos are out there I would not be so hung up on glock. Is she does not like the grip she should try something else. There are LOTS of other autos that are just as reliable and have better ergonomics. Off the top of my head the S&W M&P, the SA XDs and lots of good ones from Ruger. Heck, just about every brand now makes something in a nice polymer frame. I prefer 1911 and can’t stand the glock grip. There is a very specific part of the front area that just sticks out funny. Bugs me no matter what grip I use. My XDm fits my hand like a glove and is just as simple, just as reliable, and just as accurate. Telling someone to ‘only’ go with the glock’ is terrible advice considering the variety of polymer framed guns out there.


58 posted on 09/09/2011 7:44:13 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Marie
There are plenty of good autos out there too so she should not limit her looking to revolvers. I usually recommend the following.
First, use the proper grip. It sounds like you know what that is but here is the short version:
—Make an L with yoru thumb and pointer finger.
—Put the back strap of the gun in that L with it bisecting the angle (45 degrees on each side)
—Bring ONLY your trigger finger around and place it where it should be on the trigger (between the meaty part of the tip and the first joint, closer to the meaty part)
—Now wrap the rest of your hand around the grip.
—Be sure to focus on squeezing the grip from the front and back, not just putting pressure on the sides. You could actually have air under the middle of your hand and still have a great grip.
As you stated, this grip gets the recoil right into your palm and then wrist.

-Go some place with a good selection (gun show or big store) and try out EVERY grip.
-Don’t limit what you try by brand, caliber or ‘action’.
-Be sure to try more than one caliber of a given type. For example a S&W M&P is available in 3 calibers and each one fits the hand differently.
-If it comes with interchange able back straps, try the other sizes.
If, like a revolver, you can replace the whole grip, try some of the different aftermarket grips.
-Then, DON'T buy. Pick out the top 3 or 4 models that fit your hand.
-Go home and research those models. But don't believe everything you read.
-If possible rent or try some of them out. Keep in mind if you try a model in one caliber, that does not mean you might not like it better or worse if it was a different caliber.
-Don’t assume you prefer one caliber over another based on just one gun. There are a lot of variable that make things ‘feel’ different.
-Some people are very texture sensitive. Remind them that a grip will break in, but also be sensitive if they just can't stand the texture of a certain grip.

I don't know revolvers all that well but here are a few autos that I have taught women on and gotten good feedback about.
M&P 9mm
Springfield XD 9mm
Bersa Thunderer 380
Walter P22

There are a lot of good little guns out there. Don't let anyone give you tunnel vision on a particular caliber, brand, or action type.

59 posted on 09/09/2011 8:01:23 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Marie

Nice choice. But wear gloves at the range unless you want sore hands. I had an aluminum framed Charter Bulldog Pug back in the day and it beat the crap out of me. (I’ve now met worse-the Polish P-64. With Hornady Critical Defense loads it drew blood. For real...after 50 rounds I looked like I’d fallen off a bike and landed palm-first.) The Charter is a great CCW, though.


60 posted on 09/09/2011 9:19:34 AM PDT by jboot
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