Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Human ancestors interbred with related species
Naturenews ^ | 09-05-2011 | Matt Kaplan

Posted on 09/08/2011 5:17:24 PM PDT by Renfield

Our ancestors bred with other species in the Homo genus, according to a study published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences1. The authors say that up to 2% of the genomes of some modern African populations may originally come from a closely related species.

Palaeontologists have long wondered whether modern humans came from a single, genetically isolated population of hominins or whether we are a genetic mix of various hominin species.

Last year, an analysis comparing the Neanderthal genome sequence to that of modern H. sapiens showed that some interbreeding did take place between the two species in Europe some time between 80 and 30,000 years ago and that, to a certain extent, Neanderthals 'live on' in the genes of modern humans2.....

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: 0homoelectus; cavemen; celebratediversity; eugenics; eve; feminists; funky; godsgravesglyphs; maybealittlebloooo; monkey; paleoanthropology; racialtheory; subhuman; whatsyoursignbaby
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-70 next last

1 posted on 09/08/2011 5:17:31 PM PDT by Renfield
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

Paleo-ping....


2 posted on 09/08/2011 5:18:08 PM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Have a look around. We still do.


3 posted on 09/08/2011 5:19:59 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Put a little make-up on an orangutan, and off you go to a hotel room. Makes sense. Bob


4 posted on 09/08/2011 5:20:03 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Talk about a political correctness nightmare...


5 posted on 09/08/2011 5:21:19 PM PDT by SeeSharp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Moonman62
Happens all the time.


6 posted on 09/08/2011 5:21:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

80 years ago?


7 posted on 09/08/2011 5:21:52 PM PDT by trumandogz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

keep an eye on certain taverns about closing time, and you’ll see proof of this


8 posted on 09/08/2011 5:22:02 PM PDT by bigbob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
interbreeding did take place between the two species in Europe some time between 80 and 30,000 years ago

There were Neanderthals eighty years ago?

9 posted on 09/08/2011 5:23:54 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
You mean to say that we are all mutts?

Ruff!

10 posted on 09/08/2011 5:24:00 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

That is how we ended up with liberals - making love to monkeys.


11 posted on 09/08/2011 5:25:46 PM PDT by WMarshal (Where is the next Sam Adams?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

So Cain slew Able, then trotted off into the hinterlands and hooked up with another upright being?


12 posted on 09/08/2011 5:26:59 PM PDT by umgud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bigbob
keep an eye on certain taverns about closing time, and you’ll see proof of this

Ya' mean "She was a "two at ten" and a "ten at two"?

13 posted on 09/08/2011 5:29:07 PM PDT by laweeks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
Our ancestors bred with other species in the Homo genus

If we could inter-breed with them, then they were not a different species, per the definition of species. They were just other races of Man.

14 posted on 09/08/2011 5:30:03 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
Our ancestors bred with other species in the Homo genus

Amazing what they can come up with without a single solitary shred of evidence.

15 posted on 09/08/2011 5:31:27 PM PDT by laweeks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

ok. well.

...the reconstructions of java man look chinese, and the reconstructions of australopithicus look black, and the reconstructions of neandertals look white.

I don’t know if that proves anything though.


16 posted on 09/08/2011 5:34:51 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

I’m an ape man
I’m an ape ape man
I’m an ape man.


17 posted on 09/08/2011 5:35:39 PM PDT by babble-on
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
Reminds me of the old, old joke about a group of castaways, all men, on a island inhabited only with numerous gorillas, the punch line was:

“Yes, I did it too, but you picked an ugly one.”

18 posted on 09/08/2011 5:38:58 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
So ancient humans like Cro-Magnon were getting it on with Neanderthals and Modern Man was the resulting non sterile Mule?

Makes sense,often the mutt is stronger than both parents and eventually supersedes them.

Or UFOs landed in East Africa 500,000 years ago and the highly advanced ETs had some shore leave fun with the local hominids. "Hey sailor! Want to meet my sister?"

19 posted on 09/08/2011 5:40:36 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("11/4/2008: The day America elected a pyromaniac in the middle of a fire storm.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

I’ve seen these guys before.

Are they for real and does anyone know the story behind them?


20 posted on 09/08/2011 5:40:48 PM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Question for geneticists lurking out there...

Supposing this is true, doesn’t this have significant ramifications for mitochondrial Eve?

If we were interbreeding with other hominids, wouldn’t that have the effect of pushing mitochondrial Eve further back than the first human ancestor actually was? (Because there is “foreign”, non-homo sapiens material in the mtDNA now.)

Just thinkin out loud here...


21 posted on 09/08/2011 5:42:19 PM PDT by Claud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Claud

No.


22 posted on 09/08/2011 5:45:07 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Ever hear of democrats?


23 posted on 09/08/2011 5:45:52 PM PDT by DougSc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GAB-1955

(This is the part where you explain why not.) ;)


24 posted on 09/08/2011 5:47:41 PM PDT by Claud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Sure it’s true. You’ve seen the pics of H—— T-—— (she who must not be nsmed)


25 posted on 09/08/2011 5:47:43 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

In those days, they had social networks such as Apebook,
Crag`s List and DimTwitter for pre-interbreeding connections effected by scratching on a rock and throwing it at the intended recipient.


26 posted on 09/08/2011 5:49:12 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: freejohn; Squantos; Eaker
That’s um Eaker on the left........he’s the ugly one !
27 posted on 09/08/2011 5:49:51 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: dynachrome

“named”

defective spelchick


28 posted on 09/08/2011 5:50:03 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Claud

One doesn’t need to be a geneticist to see the possibilities that the article implies. A man, seeing “Eve” swinging around a branch, might have entertained the thought of monkeying around with some truly strange.


29 posted on 09/08/2011 5:56:15 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), Army NG, '89-' 96)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

My ex-wife was Homo Non-Erectus


30 posted on 09/08/2011 5:57:52 PM PDT by SonofReagan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeeSharp

“Talk about a political correctness nightmare...”

That is really the point....I’m surprised that the study and the hypotheses saw the light of day.


31 posted on 09/08/2011 5:57:52 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

We had a guy in boot camp from Idaho who claimed to have experiences with sheep...


32 posted on 09/08/2011 6:03:32 PM PDT by Kenton (Barack Obama - Lowering American Expectations Since 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
The Scars of Evolution:
What Our Bodies Tell Us
About Human Origins

by Elaine Morgan
"The most remarkable aspect of Todaro's discovery emerged when he examined Homo Sapiens for the 'baboon marker'. It was not there... Todaro drew one firm conclusion. 'The ancestors of man did not develop in a geographical area where they would have been in contact with the baboon. I would argue that the data we are presenting imply a non-African origin of man millions of years ago.'"

33 posted on 09/08/2011 6:03:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


34 posted on 09/08/2011 6:04:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SonofReagan

Scientific studies by eminent paleogroinocologists have proven that certain metals and minerals will short-circuit an important nerve that runs from the second finger of the left hand to the vagina.
You can find this article in the Paleontological Review, May, 2009 “The Neanderthal Vaginologues—Pass This Jobs Bill Right Away.” p. 39-2,910


35 posted on 09/08/2011 6:11:02 PM PDT by tumblindice (Governor Rick Perry: "No border fence")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

My understanding has always been that Neanderthal’s exist in abundance on many NCAA football teams.


36 posted on 09/08/2011 6:15:20 PM PDT by fso301
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Claud

We haven’t found yet any Neandertal mitochondrial lines in the modern population. Which may mean the genetics was mostly one way - with their males, knowing the territory and thus having an advantage in hunting and tracking newcomers and perhaps attracted to the neoteny in the human females. The females who did bear young didn’t keep foreign males but in a small, closely related group, they kept the females for future breeding stock. Neandertal DNA, but no Y chromosomes at all or Neandertal matrinileal signatures.


37 posted on 09/08/2011 6:17:31 PM PDT by tbw2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog; freejohn; Squantos

Squantos won’t ever let me wear the darned watch.


38 posted on 09/08/2011 6:19:21 PM PDT by Eaker ("If someone misquotes you, it's because they know you're right.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog; Eaker

Yep....dats us !

Eaker takes after the dog.... no really.... Eaker “takes” after the dog !


39 posted on 09/08/2011 6:20:21 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Kenton

why do you think scots wear kilts . sheep can hear zippers


40 posted on 09/08/2011 6:24:26 PM PDT by mt tom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Perhaps one of you quasi-scientists could take a few moments and explain how it is in your world that out of millions of species over so long only man developed to our level?

If, our evolution was truly from animal state to the present human form...why have no other species shown similar development in intelligence, etc.? That has been puzzling me for some time now.

I believe that life evolves to some extent...but have never been convinced that present man evolved from animal primates...I know technically we are animal...but I think most will know what I mean.


41 posted on 09/08/2011 6:24:37 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
This thread is NOTHING without pictures....

The beauty herself. Let's call her Butterface....


42 posted on 09/08/2011 6:33:49 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
"The ability to discern complex models of demographic history with such a small data set, when many of the basic features of African genomes and history remain unknown, concerns me."

Sometimes, models are created to support a theory.

43 posted on 09/08/2011 6:34:52 PM PDT by fso301
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Squantos; smokingfrog

Hey, some of us like it ruff!


44 posted on 09/08/2011 6:41:15 PM PDT by Eaker ("If someone misquotes you, it's because they know you're right.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Squantos; Eaker

LOL

I knew you’d come through with a belly laugh.


45 posted on 09/08/2011 6:56:08 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Any port in a storm, man


46 posted on 09/08/2011 6:59:20 PM PDT by Outrance
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Claud
(Because there is “foreign”, non-homo sapiens material in the mtDNA now.)

No doubt about it. I've seen the proof.


47 posted on 09/08/2011 6:59:24 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

Aren’t various homos still doing this ? Isn’t it anal sex that produces Democrats ?


48 posted on 09/08/2011 7:00:46 PM PDT by white17x
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: SonofReagan

Always get a laugh out of x wives names.....very creative...


49 posted on 09/08/2011 7:07:09 PM PDT by goat granny
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: laweeks

I think the “Navy” states it thusly: “Any port in a storm!”


50 posted on 09/08/2011 7:09:30 PM PDT by Tucker39
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-70 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson