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Jacqueline Kennedy Reveals That JFK Feared an LBJ Presidency
ABC News ^ | 09/09/2011 | Rick Klein

Posted on 09/09/2011 6:22:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

President John F. Kennedy was so "worried for the country" about the prospect that Vice President Lyndon Johnson might succeed him as president that he'd begun having private conversations about who should become the Democratic Party's standard-bearer in 1968, Jacqueline Kennedy recalled in a series of oral-history interviews recorded in early 1964.

She said her husband believed strongly that Johnson shouldn't become president and, in the months before his death in November 1963, he'd begun talking to his brother, Robert Kennedy, about ways to maneuver around Johnson in 1968.

"Bobby told me this later, and I know Jack said it to me sometimes. He said, 'Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon was president?'" she said.

The president gave no serious consideration to dropping Johnson from the ticket in 1964, Jacqueline Kennedy recalled. But he did have some talks about how to avoid having Johnson run for president in 1968, at the end of what would have been Kennedy's second term, she said.

"He didn't like that idea that Lyndon would go on and be president because he was worried for the country," she said. "Bobby told me that he'd had some discussions with him. I forget exactly how they were planning or who they had in mind. It wasn't Bobby, but somebody. Do something to name someone else in '68."

Jacqueline Kennedy's recollections, in a series of interviews conducted by writer-historian Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr. and kept private by the Kennedy family until this month, depict a distant and at times disturbing relationship between a president and the man who ultimately did succeed him in office upon his assassination.

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TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: jacquelinekennedy; jfk; lbj

1 posted on 09/09/2011 6:22:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Johnson had his own plan, and it worked ?


2 posted on 09/09/2011 6:27:25 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: SeekAndFind

I was told if I voted for Goldwater that we would have riots in the streets and get in a long, unwinnable war. Well I voted for Goldwater and darn if they weren’t right.


3 posted on 09/09/2011 6:29:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

And she had a right to fear LBJ. His “Great Society” program has removed low income and minority dads from homes and spawned multiple generations of “momma’s boys” animals. Sad.

And for what? For this:
“It’s simple: I’ll have them n_____s voting Democratic for two hundred years.” (Lyndon Johnson’s reported comment explaining why the civil rights bill and Great Society program was so important to him.)

May the Lord help our great country, and the millions of lives damaged through this great evil.


4 posted on 09/09/2011 6:30:34 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Venturer

RE: Johnson had his own plan, and it worked ?

Well, he gave us the great society didn’t he? How’s that working out for us?


5 posted on 09/09/2011 6:30:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

There has never been any doubt in my mind that LBJ was behind Kennedy’s assassination.


6 posted on 09/09/2011 6:38:49 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: SeekAndFind

... as did we all.


7 posted on 09/09/2011 6:43:10 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (So much stress was put on Bush's Fault that it finally let go, magnitude 6)
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To: SeekAndFind

The press was getting ready to release the story that JFK was having an affair with a Russian spy. Next thing you know, JFK is dead. The Democrat party killed their own President to protect the party. What will they do now, or allow to happen, to protect their Party?


8 posted on 09/09/2011 6:45:10 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind

Right - Kennedy feared for the country because of Johnson? Kennedy? Johnson was a bully and a coward and overrated. What BS.


9 posted on 09/09/2011 6:46:42 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: SeekAndFind
Well, he gave us the great society didn’t he? How’s that working out for us?

$7 Trillion down the rat hole and a higher poverty rate than when he started!

10 posted on 09/09/2011 6:48:11 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: SeekAndFind
Well, he gave us the great society didn’t he? How’s that working out for us?

$7 Trillion down the rat hole and a higher poverty rate than when he started!

11 posted on 09/09/2011 6:48:44 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: SeekAndFind
President John F. Kennedy was so "worried for the country" about the prospect that Vice President Lyndon Johnson might succeed him as president..

But not so worried for the country that he would pick someone else (with fewer southern votes) as a running mate.

Typical Kennedy, typical Leftist.

12 posted on 09/09/2011 6:53:24 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: blueunicorn6

The press proected JFK from all rumor,innuendo,and,most importantly,facts.He slept with Judy Exner in the WH.She was the babe of Sam Giancana. The spy you’re referring to was the Easr German agent. Hoover knew it, LBJ knew it.the press knew it,and no one was going to go public.All of the beltway,though there was no beltway in 63, had too many skeletons taking up space in the closet,and that included the press. No one was outing JFK’s affairs.


13 posted on 09/09/2011 6:58:02 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Same here. If you read Roberts Caro's biographies of Johnson you will see how desperately he wanted to be president. Kennedy's death in office was his only chance.
14 posted on 09/09/2011 7:00:40 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: SeekAndFind

I want to say it was Robert Caro (LBJ biographer) that said that Senators Mike Mansfield and LBJ “paid” JFK a visit and told him that LBJ was going to be his running mate.


15 posted on 09/09/2011 7:00:54 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: xkaydet65

What would have happened to Kennedy, and thus the Democrat Party, if the press had jumped on the story of his affair with a communist agent? How would that have compared to say, the press coverage of Watergate? Would it have destroyed the Democrat Party? Would the Democrats let their party be destroyed? What state was LBJ from? Where was JFK killed? Too many coincidences.


16 posted on 09/09/2011 7:08:16 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind
The entire Kennedy family are traitors and scum and no different than Johnson.

Kennedy never worried about anything but Kennedy.

17 posted on 09/09/2011 7:13:36 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: SeekAndFind
President John F. Kennedy was so "worried for the country" about the prospect that Vice President Lyndon Johnson . . . .

Gee.. ya think.

Bobby "Little Lyndon" Baker was a long-time friend and key staffer for Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Baines Johnson.

Baker was under investigation by the J- and RFK Department of Justice, et al. I recall that Baker had been indicted on some of the many charges resulting from years and years of corruption and crimes. He knew the Washington crowd that included the young woman killed by Ted Kennedy. Hey! it's Washington.

There was also, among many LBJ associates, Billie Sol Estes and his shenanigans that included the 1961 "suicide" of Henry Marshall a Dept. of Agriculture official in Texas investigating fraudulent government subsidies.

(Considering the current administration few Americans know that that was and still is illegal. Yes, illegal. Really.)

Estes was of course an associate of LBJ, what else.. I did say he was a criminal, right? 20+ years later Estes would admit that a close LBJ associate murdered Mr. Marshall. And Texas authorities admitted that it was murder.. shooting one's self five or six times with a bolt action rifle after bludgeoning one's self was rarely a suicide method used back then.

That associate was Malcolm E. "Mac" Wallace. Ten years before that Wallace was convicted of murdering a man, "with malice aforethought" -- murder in the first degree IOW, and walked away with a five year suspended sentence.

"My kind of man!" LBJ must have thought. Though it helped Wallace that the murdered man had the enmity of LBJ and LBJ's lawyer represented Wallace in LBJ's Texas.

18 posted on 09/09/2011 7:17:28 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SeekAndFind
So, it wasn't Lee Harvey, nor a Cuban but the DNC.

NOW I get it.

Just like in an earlier thread ... we get this information waayyy too late to do any good.

What will we discover when ozero is completely vetted and exposed?

19 posted on 09/09/2011 7:19:42 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Fiddlstix

ping


20 posted on 09/09/2011 7:24:45 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: blueunicorn6
You're asking about something that never would have happened. Scandal was something for city,county,and state govts. The govt in DC was Mt. Rushmore. The only scandal you learned in school was Teapot Dome and that was what you'd call today an outlier.My best friend's mom knew all about JFK's dalliences. She was a night manager of a spiffy NYC hotel and JFK's arrangements,including the secret tunnel in and out of the St. Regis were known to all. It was a different time.

It changed with Watergate, not because of the crime, but because of the POTUS and the war.Dems hated Nixon and lefty dems hated Nam. That was the impetus for making Watergate a big deal

. Nixon was about to end the Democratic Party as we knew it. He had the south and west and was coopting their ideas and enlarging the role and power of govt. It would not be long before a 50 year GOP reign would be starting. Once Watergate happened that opened the gates for every pipsqueak Journalism grad to think he could change the world. Now those journos have abandoned any pretense of objectivity and formed the alliance with the American Left.

21 posted on 09/09/2011 7:26:26 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Working great for liberals, minorities continue to vote D in large numbers for handouts...those that take handouts have managed to figure out how to live without working.

Of course those that provide the money for the handouts are not doing as well.


22 posted on 09/09/2011 7:29:30 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Bigun

“$7 Trillion down the rat hole and a higher poverty rate than when he started! “


Maybe so, maybe not. Some might disagree.

The fact is that the WAR ON POVERTY has been just as effective as the 100 year WAR ON DRUGS. ..........and some people, lots of people, think the WAR ON DRUGS is great.


23 posted on 09/09/2011 7:48:14 AM PDT by CGalen
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To: Bigun

“$7 Trillion down the rat hole and a higher poverty rate than when he started! “

pretty much the idea from the beginning.

Johnson had to support the Civil Rights Act because it was Kennedy’s baby (although almost word-for-word the same bills as Eisenhower and the Republicans tried to pass in the ‘50s). He managed to strongarm enough Democrat votes by promising to get the blacks back to the Democrat plantation. The Great Society welfare bills did just that.

I’m sure he is very pleased by the results, maybe even a little shocked at how easily it worked. Democrats are kicking themselves because if they had just allowed their slaves to vote when the country was founded, slavery might still be legal and omnipresent.

Of course, nowadays their plantations raise votes not cotton, and they’ve figured out how to keep their slaves and have non-Democrats pay for it, so maybe it’s a wash.


24 posted on 09/09/2011 7:54:06 AM PDT by fnord (Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
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To: SeekAndFind

By that time JFK knew LBJ was a freaking communist. Long before the assassination, I remember my Dad talking about LBJ, who was our neighbor right down the road. One of my Dad’s best friends was the foreman on the ranch.

They had long conversations talking about LBJ’s belief in a central government economic plan. He was also a terrific fan of Otto Bismark’s welfare state and how LBJ’s first argument in the Senate was against a civil rights bill shoring up black American’s right to vote and seek employment.

In early 1965 this friend told my Dad that the CIA had questioned him about the comings and goings at the ranch. That they were investigating his ties to communists who were working in the US creating chaos in the anti-civil rights movement and the anti-Vietnam movement. And it was LBJ himself who actually starting spreading the rumor that MLK was communist.

I know that the locals were experiencing great unrest at the deeds of Texas’ favorite son. But he covered himself by keeping Texans happy by bringing in the many new military bases and of course bringing in NASA. By this time Lady Bird had already moved herself into the Towers in Austin and separated herself and her businesses from him. And he had moved his ‘assistant’ into the ranch house that the guys had dubbed the bolshevik and they started secretly keeping records of her private meetings at the ranch.

That was one dastardly old man. When he had his last heart attack in 1973 my Mom was a nurse at the hospital. When the helicopter came in, the ‘bolshevik’ fell out of it and busted her knee wide open and broke the kneecap, Mom said the hospital doctor just stitched it back up and didn’t even x-ray it. lol LBJ was already dead and he wasn’t going to toady to the commie.

Two years after his death, my younger brother’s after school job was working for the local florist who was commissioned on President’s Day to take a wreath and put it on his grave, they went over there and couldn’t find the grave. They called one of the caretakers who came over and said, “You’re standing on his head!” When Lady Bird finally decided to put in a grave marker, it was a very modest granite stone, and everyone laughed that there was no great presidential edifice built there. She planted him in the family plot and was done.


25 posted on 09/09/2011 8:23:08 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: SeekAndFind
Seymour Hersh claims that Kennedy was planning to select Stuart Symington of Missouri as his running mate but was blackmailed into picking LBJ by J. Edgar Hoover.

Would a Kennedy-Symington ticket have beaten Nixon? Nixon might have carried Texas but that wouldn't have been enough to give him the victory (Missouri went for Kennedy anyway). Possibly more of the Southern electoral votes would have gone to Harry F. Byrd so without LBJ on the ticket possibly the election would have gone into the House of Representatives.

26 posted on 09/09/2011 8:40:14 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: dfwgator

But you didn’t do it by yourself :-)


27 posted on 09/09/2011 9:58:06 AM PDT by mcshot (The union label was once considered desireable but will now be avoided.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

RE: Seymour Hersh claims that Kennedy was planning to select Stuart Symington of Missouri as his running mate but was blackmailed into picking LBJ by J. Edgar Hoover.

So, what skeletons were in JFK’s closet that makes him so eminently blackmailable?


28 posted on 09/09/2011 10:06:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: blueunicorn6

The expanded Zapruder film going around clearly shows the President’s driver shooting a pistol over his should complete with casing ejection. Mind blowing.


29 posted on 09/09/2011 10:12:06 AM PDT by mcshot (The union label was once considered desireable but will now be avoided.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hersh has 9 or 10 pages in his book on how LBJ forced Kennedy to pick him for VP. The gist of it is LBJ knew about JFK's womanizing (from Hoover) and used that to blackmail him.

Kennedy narrowly lost California in 1960. Hersh thinks he would have carried it with Symington on the ticket because Symington was popular there (he had been Secretary of the Air Force in the Truman administration) and that would have offset any losses in the South if Johnson had not been on the ticket.

30 posted on 09/09/2011 11:37:05 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Venturer; SeekAndFind; All; The Sons of Liberty
Johnson had his own plan, and it worked ?

LBJ (and Hoover) led the conspiracy that killed JFK but LBJ's main motive was to remain out of jail for murder and corruption. See Barr McClellan's book BLOOD, MONEY & POWER...

If LBJ and Hoover did lead the conspiracy, you'd expect to see witnesses who saw things like a bullet hole in the windshield that the official photographs don't show, unanimous observations from Parkland Hospital in Dallas that say they saw a massive hole in the right rear of JFK's head but official autopsy photographs don't show etc.

If you doubt this, listen to this Parkland Doctor tell you about the massive hole in the right posterior of JFK's head. This television interview was supposed to have been "lost".....

The CONSPIRACY has many holes in it but Americans are fools enough to think the US Government and their lap dog media are going to tell them the truth. Now that is funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RIAHVqdjDY

31 posted on 02/06/2012 1:41:28 PM PST by politicianslie (Obama: America's first Muslim POTUS, doing all he can to destroy America. HELLO, can anyone think?)
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