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British MP urges government to force churches into same-sex unions
lifesitenews.com ^ | 09/09/2011 | PATRICK B. CRAINE

Posted on 09/09/2011 6:32:36 AM PDT by massmike

A member of U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron’s government is calling for a ban on marriages at Christian churches if they refuse to also perform same-sex unions.

“As long as religious groups can refuse to preside over ceremonies for same-sex couples, there will be inequality,” wrote Mike Weatherley, the Conservative MP for Hove and Portslade, in an August 21 letter to Cameron.

While Weatherley’s proposal is currently a “minority view,” it “could quickly become a main stream point of view,” warned Neil Addison, national director of the U.K.‘s Thomas More Legal Centre.

The U.K.‘s 2004 Civil Partnership Act, which legalized same-sex unions, forbade them from being performed in religious venues or from using religious imagery.

But Cameron’s Coalition government has proposed an amendment to the 2010 Equality Act that would allow churches and other religious venues to perform same-sex unions if they choose.

Critics have warned that the measure will lead to even more pressure on religious institutions who refuse to perform the ceremonies, such as the Catholic Church and the Church of England. They note that the government itself admitted in its public consultation document on the amendment that it could lead to lawsuits against churches that refuse to perform the unions.

Addison said that when the same-sex civil partnerships were first introduced, “those who said that Churches, Synagogues, Mosques, etc. would eventually be forced to perform same sex marriages were ridiculed as being alarmist, but it is now a point of view that is becoming dangerously mainstream.”

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TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: churches; formerlygreatbritain; gaymarriage; homonaziagenda; homonazism; homopsychoagenda; homosexualagenda; homotyranny; marriage; mosques; oncegreatbritain; religiousfreedom; religiousliberty; religiouspersecution; seculartyranny; synagogues; tyranny; uk

1 posted on 09/09/2011 6:32:39 AM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike; little jeremiah

homosexual agenda ping


2 posted on 09/09/2011 6:35:44 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: massmike
religious persecution... again? British Puritans will have to colonize Antarctica or the moon to get away this time.
3 posted on 09/09/2011 6:38:01 AM PDT by Porterville (Methink'st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee.)
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To: massmike

But, but, but...What consenting adults do in the privacy of the own homes is none of my...Oh nevermind.

How ‘bout this one instead: “How could two homos getting married possibly affect you??”


4 posted on 09/09/2011 6:38:32 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: massmike

What would happen if they tried to force the homosexuals to come to church?


5 posted on 09/09/2011 6:39:25 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: massmike
“As long as religious groups can refuse to preside over ceremonies for same-sex couples, there will be inequality,” wrote Mike Weatherley...

This will be the same argument made here in a very short time. The Gaystapo are already saying it in secret.

6 posted on 09/09/2011 6:39:53 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: massmike

Good luck with the Mosque part. I suspect such a law would be applied far more vigorously to passive religions.


7 posted on 09/09/2011 6:40:02 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: massmike

This won’t happen.


8 posted on 09/09/2011 6:42:51 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: massmike

It’s high time the Church fights back. Not only in America but around the world.


9 posted on 09/09/2011 6:44:12 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Those who love liberty love Sarah)
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To: massmike

Christians should just get married in the church and refuse to apply for a marriage license etc.

If the state does not recognize what a marriage is, why ask for their permission or give them the information?

Marriage is a religious sacriment, so if the state thinks it is something else, why should I bother with the state when I am involved in my religious sacriment?

Get a church marriage and file the appropriate legal paperwork for limited powers of attorney, guardianship, etc.


10 posted on 09/09/2011 6:46:27 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Porterville

Time for the round heads to ride again.


11 posted on 09/09/2011 6:46:33 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: SampleMan

Marriage predates religious sacraments - and manmade civil codes as well.


12 posted on 09/09/2011 6:58:46 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: SampleMan

Exactly. Some faith’s already don’t really think little pieces of paper from the gubberment necessarily make anyone married or not.

The statists and homosexualists love that many have been conditioned to think the state defines marriage, that way they accept whatever the state says about marriage, including impossibilities like “gay marriage”. Same thing with education and charity.

Freegards


13 posted on 09/09/2011 7:14:25 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: massmike

The Abomination of Desolation spoken of in the Book of Daniel.


14 posted on 09/09/2011 7:23:13 AM PDT by caddie
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To: LearsFool
Marriage predates religious sacraments - and manmade civil codes as well.

Wasn't Eve made for Adam by God? Doesn't get more sacramental than that.

Point is, that "marriage" is a word that has historically held meaning well beyond "sexual coupling" or "domestic partner". What we currently have is an attempt to redefine the word to mean nothing more than those two things.

Control of the words meaning is probably not controllable in the face of a Leftist media; however, the religious shouldn't accept that meaning, even if it means adding an adjective, such as Holy or Sacramental. This can be reinforced by rejecting the state's authority over marriage altogether.

15 posted on 09/09/2011 7:33:34 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: massmike

So the British MP are now no different than Hitlers Reich?
Remember Adolf attempted to force the Church in Germany to do
as the Reich dictated. How so are we to see this plan by the Brits as any different-the evil remains the same.


16 posted on 09/09/2011 7:41:39 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: massmike

And I thought we Americans had the monopoly on lunacy.


17 posted on 09/09/2011 7:58:04 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: StonyBurk

Read, “The Pink Swastika.”
http://www.thepinkswastika.com/


18 posted on 09/09/2011 8:02:23 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: SampleMan

Perhaps you’re using the word sacrament in a way other than its usual sense. Beyond that, we’re quite in agreement.

Yes, the first wedding ceremony took place in Eden, and marriage was established and defined by God creating the woman for the man and bringing her to him. There is no other definition of marriage, nor can there be.

As you say, the word “marriage” itself may be twisted and misused to refer to other couplings. But marriage is what it always was: the joining by God of a man and woman. The state has no authority here. It will have just as much success legislating that the sun rise in the west and set in the east as it will legislating that two people of the same sex can be married. “Unisex marriage” is self-contradictory.

As the punch line to old joke says, calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it one. :-)


19 posted on 09/09/2011 8:22:20 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: massmike

“A member of U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron’s government is calling for a ban on marriages at Christian churches if they refuse to also perform same-sex unions.”

Why isn’t MP Weatherley calling for a ban on marriages at Islamic mosques or Jewish synagogues then?


20 posted on 09/09/2011 8:35:04 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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The homosexual agenda wants a dictatorship of sodomy - and total destruction of all religion and morality. They're ramping up, folks. Revealing what they really want - complete domination over everyone. Time to gather courage and stand up against this great evil.

21 posted on 09/09/2011 9:57:16 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: massmike

Excuse the expression, but “Give them an inch....”


22 posted on 09/09/2011 10:01:17 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (To ACLU & its plaintiffs: Stop dragging the public into your personal struggle w/ God. -Mark Baisley)
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To: blueunicorn6
What would happen if they tried to force the homosexuals to come to church?

Post of the day!

23 posted on 09/09/2011 10:02:13 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (To ACLU & its plaintiffs: Stop dragging the public into your personal struggle w/ God. -Mark Baisley)
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To: little jeremiah

it goes to show when we let these idiots into power then they have one agenda and that is to destroy the west and traditions.

Anyone thinking that homosexuality is normal needs their head testing and this MP is one of them


24 posted on 09/09/2011 10:32:51 AM PDT by manc (Hannity is a fraud , he admitted he's socially liberal on his show, marriage=1man with 1woman)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Have heard of it—first just after Colorado passed Amendment #2 —and Hollyweird constructed their bogus Boycott Colorado.
then it has gained new attention it seems. IT sounds like some interesting history among those our education system and the Government sponsors would have us remain ignorant of.


25 posted on 09/10/2011 4:09:49 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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