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Census - Long Form
U.S. Census Bureau ^ | January 1, 2000 | U.S. Census Bureau

Posted on 09/14/2011 7:59:42 AM PDT by ZULU

I have been harassed by phone calls and mailings from the U.S. Census Bureau connected with the long form.

I was provided with the short form which I completed and returned.

But this long form is many pages long and they ask intrusive questions which I feel they have no right to ask.

The consitution appears to provide for a decennial census but I don't see ANYTHING there to justify a form like this monstrosity.

Has anyone else received this thing? Realistically, what can they do to you if you refuse to complete it?

Thanks


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: census
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1 posted on 09/14/2011 7:59:44 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU
I haven't got anything yet. I do remember that, for the the last 2 or 3 censi, I've had to check off Other and put American in the Ethnicity box.

My best friend has done the same thing; and the last time he did it, some bureaucrat called him and threatened legal action unless he changed it to one of the categories. After telling the government to go to hell, he never heard from them again.

2 posted on 09/14/2011 8:06:25 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: ZULU

ZULU,
I received my long form from the Census. I told my wife to not fill it out or send it in.
She said we have to.
I told her if she did I’d be extremely upset with her and if there was a problem I’d take responsibility for it. I told her the census was by law allowed to ask how many folks lived here, not my sexual orientation. Political affiliation, or how amny warts I have on my rear end. (1).
About a month or so later some ass clowns showed up knocking on my door stating they were from the U.S. census.
I immediately asked them to please get off my property.
They tried to interupt and I VERY strongly but politely told them they were on private property and if they didn’t leave I’d do a citizens arrest and call a cop and have them arrested for tresspassing.
They got on to the road and continued yelling they were from the U.S. census, and I was adamant I was NOT interested.
They left.
That was about 5 months ago.Stay tuned.


3 posted on 09/14/2011 8:10:11 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy with a teleprompter)
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To: ZULU
I received a long form once. I answered the questions regarding the occupants of the house, and even added a remark about them being US citizens and their voting status. I further commented that the provided information was the Constitutional grounds of the the Census ... and they didn't bother to ask for that information.

For every other question, I answered with "no Constitutional authorty to ask this in the Census". For all questions regarding the details of my home, I replied that the house was made to code and its details are already on file with the county government. I am not paid to do their research.

I didn't hear back from them.

4 posted on 09/14/2011 8:10:50 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: ZULU
I received a long form once. I answered the questions regarding the occupants of the house, and even added a remark about them being US citizens and their voting status. I further commented that the provided information was the Constitutional grounds of the the Census ... and they didn't bother to ask for that information.

For every other question, I answered with "no Constitutional authorty to ask this in the Census". For all questions regarding the details of my home, I replied that the house was made to code and its details are already on file with the county government. I am not paid to do their research.

I didn't hear back from them.

5 posted on 09/14/2011 8:11:09 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: ZULU
Realistically, what can they do to you if you refuse to complete it?

FEMA reeducation camp?

6 posted on 09/14/2011 8:11:49 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: ZULU

The 2010 Census had only one form. There was no short and long. Not to mention that it was completed last year.

What you have is most likely the American Community Survey, which is ongoing.

If I ever receive one of those, it will be circular filed.


7 posted on 09/14/2011 8:17:01 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: ZULU

Answer the questions exactly like you want to. This is America, stand up for yourself and quit worrying about the govts heavy hand or what “Johnny” put as his answer....jeeez.


8 posted on 09/14/2011 8:19:26 AM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: ZULU
They could not find my house so I got a form at the library and filled it out. What race am I? Legal American. I think I have PTSD and I know I have prostate cancer. I just got my second Purple Heart 44 years late so bring it on big government. Better bring a case of anti acids.
9 posted on 09/14/2011 8:23:46 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: laweeks

I did the same. No repercussions.


10 posted on 09/14/2011 8:23:45 AM PDT by DManA
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To: runninglips; All

Thanks for the support. I won’t respond.

I checked this in Wikipedia, of all places, and THEY said that although there are statutory penalties, in NO case has the Census Bureau been willing to carry the threats through as it could result in a Constitutional Challenge, which they wish to avoid.

But I wanted to know what other Freepers thought.

Thanks again.


11 posted on 09/14/2011 8:24:43 AM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY but Obama)
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To: ZULU

I received BOTH the short and the long forms just last summer. I completed the short but misplaced the long. Later I got a second copy of the long but I lost that one too - I’m so disorganized, it’s terrible! Not sure when but I received a phone call wherein I told them as far as I was concerned I met my obligations with the short, and if they wanted they could come arrest me, but that was all they were going to get and I hung up. I felt bad for the person on the other end, just doing their job, but that’s how it goes sometimes. I have never been arrested!


12 posted on 09/14/2011 8:25:55 AM PDT by GizzyGirl
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To: ZULU

We received the long form, the American Community Survey, several years ago. I tossed it out twice. Then they called me.
The lady explained the information was used to determine how “government money” was distributed. I told her that was exactly why I objected to their central planning scheme and hung up.
We haven’t heard from them since.


13 posted on 09/14/2011 8:34:57 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: ZULU
I got a long form. I answered all of the questions that requested number data by using a base converter like this one. Oh, and I didn't tell them which base I was using.
14 posted on 09/14/2011 8:44:34 AM PDT by ChiefKujo (The President has eaten in my disclosed location.)
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To: laweeks
"I've had to check off Other and put American in the Ethnicity box."
last year I was "chosen" to take an energy use survey ( i guess this was started by nixon ) and the very nice lady asked me my ethnicity. I told her american. She told me that I had to choose. I told her my family has been here for 5 generations, and that makes me american. She wrote on her form that I was an american.
15 posted on 09/14/2011 9:11:50 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: ZULU

Did this just happen? If so, why does the link in your article refer to January 1, 2000?

Just curious.


16 posted on 09/14/2011 9:43:25 AM PDT by ken in texas (Can't Afford a Tagline... send money.)
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To: ken in texas

It just happened.

I couldn’t remember the name of the form as I lost it. So I goggled Census and the Long Form looked like the right one and the version on the Net was dated January 1, 2000.

Subsequently, responders let me know it was actually the Community Service Form.


17 posted on 09/14/2011 9:50:46 AM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY but Obama)
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To: ZULU

I received the American Community Survey about 3 weeks ago. I promptly emailed both my Senators and Representative that there is a house bill pending concerning this survey. Currently (according to the Census Bureau) you are legally required to fill this form out and send it in. ( not to say the info must be correct) This bill would make it legal to refuse to fill it out. My form is currently getting closer and closer to the circular file. It will not be filled out or sent in. It is 28 pages of intrusive government garbage.


18 posted on 09/14/2011 10:54:21 AM PDT by Energizer45678
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To: Energizer45678

AMEN!!!


19 posted on 09/14/2011 11:18:46 AM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY but Obama)
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To: ZULU
We got the American Survey last year. They threaten to fine you if you don't fill it out.

I researched the survey online when I got it and the consensus there was that they chase you for about 2 months before giving up.

So we decided to not fill it out. Sure enough, they visited us, called us, etc for about 2 months and subtly threatened that there would be repercussions for not filling it out.

We were evasive with them..."we don't have time", "we're travelling next week", etc. They say they'll sit down with you and help you, etc.

Eventually almost to the day that the 2 months were up they quit harassing us.

NOTE: There is no record of them EVER following through with the penalty. The survey is riciculously intrusive.

20 posted on 09/14/2011 11:39:32 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: ZULU

Whenever you get something from the Federal Government, unless it is a warrant signed by a judge, an order signed by a judge, etc. Throw it away. If they want you to have it bad enough they can have you sign for it or serve you.

With the IRS, if it’s something that says you owe them money, transfer all the money you can out of any account you have...cash it, stash it and dash it...ha ha....this government is your enemy....

(there, can I make it onto the tattletale webaction site now?)


21 posted on 09/14/2011 11:46:28 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Siena Dreaming

I think they actually realize that if anyone fights them through the Federal Courts on this, they might very well loose the case and the entire Census Bureau face a massive downgrading in staff and budget.


22 posted on 09/14/2011 11:50:32 AM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY but Obama)
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To: ZULU

Canada did their census this year. Last year the conservative government eliminated the mandatory long form of the census. The howling and bewailing from the usual suspects was long and loud. This year you didn’t even have mail anything. You could do it all online. No muss no fuss and just the basics of how many people age and sex and that was it.


23 posted on 09/14/2011 12:06:38 PM PDT by xp38
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Do not return the American Community Survey if you don’t want to. They tried to get me to complete one. I ignored it.

They sent a rep. to my house. I politely turned her away.

They send two more forms in the mail with letters stating that if I didn’t comply I would be subject to a $5000.00 fine and possible jail time. I round filed them.

They then sent another rep. to my house. When I told him “no” he initially reminded me that there could be a $5000 fine and jail time. I told him this was an affront to my human rights; unconstitutional and an invasion of my privacy, etc.

I mentioned getting a lawyer and then his body language completely changed. He quickly backed up a few steps, put his hand up and stated “Dont worry about it. You don’t have to do it. Seriously, I don’t want you to worry about it.”

I asked him about the fines and such and he said “Dont worry, they won’t do anything”. “They dare not enforce because they know they would lose in a court of law”.

So then I asked him if he was proud to be working for a firm that was using intimidation and fear tactics in order to deny my rights?

He said he was only trying to pay his bills and quietly left. I have heard nothing else about it.

These government gangsters must be stopped. Do not let them intimidate you. They have no authority that we don’t give to them.


24 posted on 09/14/2011 12:13:03 PM PDT by Citizen Able
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To: ZULU
Yes, and it may not even be a court issue.

If someone had to pay they would likely cause a big stink in the media. And if it got out to the public that people were being FORCED to give the Federal Gov't this much info they would lose funding for their whole operation...all their jobs would be lost.

25 posted on 09/14/2011 12:21:53 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: ZULU

I am currently getting hassled by these people. I hope this thread is useful......

In the meantime, what did they do to you or did they just give up?


26 posted on 10/11/2011 9:10:54 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Citizen Able

This is what I love about FR! I am currently getting hassled and this thread had some great posts.

Thank you for the information.


27 posted on 10/11/2011 9:20:15 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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