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Official: Potential UT move to Pac-12 ‘heating up’
Austin American Statesman ^ | 9.18.11 | Alan Trubow

Posted on 09/18/2011 3:13:59 PM PDT by trumandogz

The Pac-12 appears to be working out the final details of a deal that would bring Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech to the conference, sources close to the situation told Hookem.com and the American-Statesman on Sunday morning.

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Sounds like a great move.

The University gets to keep the Longhorn Network, but may have to kick some money to lesser teams in the Pac 16.

And Texas, OU, OSU, etc will get to keep the Aggies 22 million dollars for quitting the Big 12.

Win/Win!

1 posted on 09/18/2011 3:14:01 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Maybe so, maybe not.

If there is no Big 12 (take that, Baylor), there may be no exit penalty. And if the four schools mentioned choose to kill the Big 12, won’t they get to pay, too?

Lotsa legal maneuvering to come.


2 posted on 09/18/2011 3:17:05 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: trumandogz
Could be Texas A&M and WV to the SEC.

Syracuse and Pitt with the ACC.

I hope they don't deduct points for geographic locations. heh

3 posted on 09/18/2011 3:17:39 PM PDT by Palter (Even liberals need jobs.)
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To: trumandogz

How far are those schools in Texas and Oklahoma from the Pacific Ocean?


4 posted on 09/18/2011 3:21:34 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
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To: trumandogz

UT covets the Pac 12 ‘cause they have the richest TV contract in like forever. GO HUSKIES.


5 posted on 09/18/2011 3:21:37 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Jedidah

The Aggies left the Big 12 while the Big 12 still exists and the Aggies will have to pay the exit penalty.

Texas, OU, Tech and OSU will simply dissolve the Big 12 and take the money.


6 posted on 09/18/2011 3:22:44 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Charles Henrickson

“How far are those schools in Texas and Oklahoma from the Pacific Ocean?”

I would rather fly to a game in LA than drive to a game in College Station.


7 posted on 09/18/2011 3:24:45 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Actually I was quite happy with the Pacific Coast Conference.


8 posted on 09/18/2011 3:25:07 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Drango

“UT covets the Pac 12 ‘cause they have the richest TV contract in like forever. “

And the PAC 12 covets the Longhorns and they bring in more money than any other college sports program in the country.

And the Pac 12 will add the DFW, HOU, AUS TV markets.


9 posted on 09/18/2011 3:27:24 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

“I would rather fly to a game in LA than drive to a game in College Station.”

An excellent point! I live a few miles from Cal and Stanford. I’d get to see teams from the old Big 12, once in awhile. I’m from the midwest and not a Pac-10 fan.


10 posted on 09/18/2011 3:28:17 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: trumandogz

You wish.

And you do know, I would assume, that the negotiated exit fee was to be nowhere near the $22 mill you quoted.

Wonder how much of the Longhorn Network moola Texas loses, not to mention having to share revenues in the new conference.


11 posted on 09/18/2011 3:29:39 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Charles Henrickson

Nothing wrong with late-night kickoffs.


12 posted on 09/18/2011 3:30:48 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah

For years, the University of Texas has had to kick money to the poorer schools in the Big 12 such as Kansas, Baylor, Iowa State and Texas A&M and I am sure they will now have to kick cash to Pac 16 schools.

This whole thing seems a bit like Socialism.

Texas is the most successful school and has to kick money to other Big 12 schools.

To earn a little bit more money for themselves the University creates the Longhorn Network in order to have some cash that will not have to share with those poorer schools and they Aggies, seeing that they are going to be cut off from the largess of Texas quits the Big 12.


13 posted on 09/18/2011 3:42:32 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

I heard Texas tried to get into the ACC but the ACC would not budge on revenue sharing. Texas wants to keep its money AND be in a “super conference”. I wonder which conference will blink first.


14 posted on 09/18/2011 3:45:07 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: trumandogz
Univ of Texas will go Independent
15 posted on 09/18/2011 3:50:05 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: trumandogz

I have difficulty worrying about the fairness of UT’s having to kick money to less affluent schools when UT receives the $8.8 billion Texas PUF and other Texas universities do not (except A&M).


16 posted on 09/18/2011 3:53:34 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: trumandogz

Put a fork in the Big 12, it’s done.


17 posted on 09/18/2011 3:55:13 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: Huskrrrr
I’m from the midwest and not a Pac-10 fan.

It's the Pac-12 you neanderthal. (grin, excuse the smack talk. Nothing personal)

18 posted on 09/18/2011 4:03:15 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: trumandogz

Let see.... the Texas teams will have to wait up till 9pm to watch half their conference games. That’s smart. /s


19 posted on 09/18/2011 4:11:37 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: rdl6989

So is the Big East.


20 posted on 09/18/2011 4:12:45 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Those who trade land for peace will end up with neither one.)
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To: Palter
Been discussing this for days on Clemson boards. Would like WVU in the ACC but they don't meet the academic standards of the conference and we don't have any sofas we need burned right now. Would have also liked Texas but think we would have had to give up too much to get them.

Without the Tex/Ok school on the board anymore most are saying it's Uconn and Rutgers next to fill out the ACC 16. Looks like it's lining up to be the nation's basketball conference. ND still being mentioned but don't think it will happen. It still looks like they will have to find a conference sooner than later.

21 posted on 09/18/2011 4:21:32 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Those who trade land for peace will end up with neither one.)
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To: trumandogz
This whole thing seems a bit like Socialism...To earn a little bit more money for themselves the University creates the Longhorn Network in order to have some cash that will not have to share with those poorer schools

The Hypocrisy is breath taking. In the UT classroom they push Marxism and Communism as the answer to all of life's problems. When it comes to their money though - every man for themselves: Greed is Good.

22 posted on 09/18/2011 4:23:29 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: trumandogz

Kansas needing assistance? LOL, better check that. They are usually in the black regardless of their football costs their basketball program provides alot of green to the school.


23 posted on 09/18/2011 4:24:52 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: Jedidah
Nothing wrong with late-night kickoffs.

Folks around Oklahoma State and Tulsa might argue that point. They had a rain-delayed kickoff at 12:30 am Sunday morning. Game was supposed to start at 9 pm CST.

24 posted on 09/18/2011 4:31:41 PM PDT by Ole Okie (!!!?)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Lol. Florida and Vandy are the only ones that have academic weight in the SEC.

I'm not a fan of these super conferences, but perhaps they will increase more competition between them.

Schools will have to find a Conference in order to fill the BCS requirements, without being in one, your chances of bowl games and recognition decrease.

25 posted on 09/18/2011 4:32:32 PM PDT by Palter (Even liberals need jobs.)
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To: The Theophilus

Not much communism spoken at the UT Business School.

And all the other schools have their hand out to receive money from the Longhorns.


26 posted on 09/18/2011 4:33:08 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: The Theophilus

Socialism would be if the NCAA regulates that all money earned would be distributed equally to all FBS teams. I think you have to look at conferences as corporations and teams as divisions inside the corporation. You pool resources to make your conference more competitive, improve your conference national standing which will in theory increase revenue across the board. Since most conference have some sort of revenue sharing you will notice that there are still alot of haves and have nots, capitalism will always work itself out as long as there is no centralized over bearing governmental entity forcing some sort of feel communal living standards that all AD’s have to abide by.


27 posted on 09/18/2011 4:34:50 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: trumandogz
RE: "For years, the University of Texas has had to kick money to the poorer schools in the Big 12 such as Kansas, Baylor, Iowa State and Texas A&M..."

A&M a "poorer school?"

Please provide a link detailing t.u. "kick(ing) money" to A&M please.

28 posted on 09/18/2011 4:40:04 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: aft_lizard

Kansas Basketball is peanuts.

UT Football brings in more cash than any other program in the country.

Kansas basketball could be funded by UT Football soda pop sales.


29 posted on 09/18/2011 4:45:00 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Trajan88

Conference schools share revenue and UT brings in the most money in the country.


30 posted on 09/18/2011 4:46:49 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Well maybe they should go independent... good luck.


31 posted on 09/18/2011 4:51:19 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: trumandogz
Sounds like a great move.

Other than they have to play teams on the left coast.

32 posted on 09/18/2011 4:56:50 PM PDT by alrea (Order the rewarmed baked Hillary souffle.)
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To: trumandogz

What you just said does not validate or make your original statement true. Kansas doesn’t need kickbacks to stay afloat. You are proving TU’s arrogance here.


33 posted on 09/18/2011 5:03:43 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: trumandogz

As Trajan says..go independent then. If super conferences come, why would any team worth there salt bother to schedule you guys? After all the next logical step is a play off, and I could see these conferences barring independents from participating.


34 posted on 09/18/2011 5:07:22 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Hey now! Sofa burning has now been outlawed in Morgantown.

Namsman (BSAE WVU ‘76; MSAE WVU ‘77)

“Let’s go Mountaineers!”


35 posted on 09/18/2011 5:11:04 PM PDT by namsman
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To: trumandogz

Sounds like a great move.
The University gets to keep the Longhorn Network, but may have to kick some money to lesser teams in the Pac 16.

And Texas, OU, OSU, etc will get to keep the Aggies 22 million dollars for quitting the Big 12.

Win/Win!
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Absolutely Lose/Lose.
Longhorns are making a huge mistake. Calif is dead, in Real Estate, economy & football. Most decent playes now go NW. The PAC is done. If Texas wants to play real football, they’ll go to the SEC & keep the Thanksgiving game alive. As a Longhorn fan in A&M territory, I can definitely see 5 Star Texas recruits going to A&M to play in the SEC.


36 posted on 09/18/2011 5:16:41 PM PDT by She hits a grand slam tonight
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To: aft_lizard
I do see super conferences reducing their out of conference games to the detriment of DII and independent teams.

Love to see what the SEC is going to do now. Doesn't look like any ACC teams are going anywhere soon.

37 posted on 09/18/2011 5:19:34 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Those who trade land for peace will end up with neither one.)
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To: Drango

It’s the Pac-12 you neanderthal. (grin, excuse the smack talk. Nothing personal)

OK, but remember we’re still using new math when referring to the Big 10 (12).


38 posted on 09/18/2011 5:20:19 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Ole Okie

I went to sleep waiting for this game and when I woke up at 2:30 AM they had just started the second half.

The idea of central time zone teams joining conferences on the west coast is craziness. When will the girl’s volleyball team ever go to class when they are coming back from Pullman, Washington?

I also hate the idea of giving up all the traditional rivalries. College sports has prostituted itself for the all might dollar. The old argument that a college football playoff would destroy traditional rivalries has been turned into destroy the traditional rivalries to make the money.

It is disgusting.


39 posted on 09/18/2011 5:30:01 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: She hits a grand slam tonight

Listen, no offense. I live in Texas in A&M territory. Texas joining the SEC & (hopefully) surviving & winning the division would do WAY WAY more for the Longhorn Network than joining the losers in the PAC 10. Just MO. Plus they’d lose all those 4 & 5 Star recruits to A&M.
Hey, wouldn’t it be great to play a bunch of losers in Oregon or Idaho all year & than have a lucky final game & win the National Title?


40 posted on 09/18/2011 5:35:41 PM PDT by She hits a grand slam tonight
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To: She hits a grand slam tonight

Ahh yes, living in A&M country would make you quite knowledgeable about losers.


41 posted on 09/18/2011 6:22:15 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: She hits a grand slam tonight

The Aggies can’t win a Big 12 Championship. How the heck are they going to win a SEC championship?


42 posted on 09/18/2011 7:08:09 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Palter
Lol. Florida and Vandy are the only ones that have academic weight in the SEC.

The PAC-12 presidents place considerable weight on academic reputation, which is why they are careful about who to accept in the conference. The Big-12 schools mentioned meet those standards.

43 posted on 09/18/2011 7:11:45 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: DRey
I have difficulty worrying about the fairness of UT’s having to kick money to less affluent schools when UT receives the $8.8 billion Texas PUF and other Texas universities do not (except A&M).

And they do all of that under a not-for-profit status tax status. I don't mind one iota that taxpayers are subsidizing universities but building athletic empires is not part of the university's basic mission. If someone wants to write a check to these greedy bastards to build another athletic shrine so the hacky-sack players can have a new studyhall, fine write it, but just don't expect the rest of us to subsidize it as tax deductible donation.

44 posted on 09/19/2011 8:33:19 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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