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CDC now calling U.S. households and demanding child immunization records
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Posted on 09/29/2011 4:46:18 AM PDT by Scythian

(NaturalNews) The U.S. Centers for Disease Control, which has been comprehensively exposed as a vaccine propaganda organization promoting the interests of drug companies, is now engaged in a household surveillance program that involves calling U.S. households and intimidating parents into producing child immunization records. As part of what it deems a National Immunization Survey (NIS), the CDC is sending letters to U.S. households, alerting them that they will be called by "NORC at the University of Chicago" and that households should "have your child's immunization records handy when answering our questions." (See copies of the letter, below.)

This NIS vaccine compliance program is revealed in a letter being sent to U.S. households by Edward J. Sondik, PhD, the director of the National Center for Health Statistics at the CDC. The CDC, you may recall, was instrumental in pushing the false swine flu pandemic scare and encouraging governments to order billions of dollars worth of vaccines from drug companies. Following this marketing fraud, the former head of the CDC, Dr. Julie Gerberding, went on to accept the lucrative job as the president of Merck's global vaccine division (http://www.naturalnews.com/027789_D...). One of the CDC's top researchers who worked under Gerberding, Dr. Poul Thorsen, was later indicted by a federal grand jury for allegedly stealing grant money and using it to buy luxury cars and motorcycles (http://www.naturalnews.com/032216_T...).

Now the CDC is bullying parents across the USA to comply with child immunization surveillance programs by calling their home phones and asking them to produce child immunization records.

NaturalNews has acquired a copy of the letter being sent by the CDC, which you can view in these two images:
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Vaccine compliance tracking

"Your phone number was chosen randomly by computer," explains the letter, which goes on to say that the CDC will use your information to generate a map of vaccine compliance -- no doubt to later target low-compliance areas with increased vaccination propaganda or even court-ordered immunization mandates like the one we witnessed in Maryland (http://www.naturalnews.com/022242_m...).

"It is important for us to interview every household we call to get a complete picture of your area's immunization rates," the CDC letter explains. "Your answers to the NIS will provide information to help improve the nation's health now and in the years ahead," it continues. Which means, of course, that this information will be used to push more vaccines onto more infants by targeting areas with low vaccine compliance rates, such as African American neighborhoods which are rightly skeptical of government's claims about vaccines.

Note that in this letter, the CDC admits it is using this information to track vaccine compliance at the local level. On top of that, the NORC.org website openly admits this is all about public health surveillance, saying: "the NIS is one of the largest telephone surveys in the nation and its data are considered the gold standard for public health surveillance on immunization rates."

Ever notice how these organizations are so aggressive at tracking vaccination rates but they care nothing about tracking rates of autism? Have you wondered why they aren't calling U.S. households and asking parents whether their children became autistic after receiving vaccines? (Gee, maybe they don't want to know the answer to that question...)

Public health surveillance = interrogations by phone

Once your private home phone is called as part of this vaccine surveillance and tracking program, you will be essentially interrogated over the phone about your vaccine immunization compliance:

"Respondents are asked a series of questions about the vaccinations received by selected children (including recommended seasonal flu vaccines)," says NORC. And after that, NORC will request permission to acquire your child's immunization records from your doctor!

"Respondents are also asked for permission to contact the children's health providers for the sole purpose of obtaining immunization records, providing an important supplement to the household report," NORC explains. Yes, once you answer the interrogation questions on the phone, they will then go straight to your doctor to acquire vaccine records there in order to determine whether you were lying on the phone.

See our screen capture of the NORC.org website which admits all this:
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The original source of this is: http://www.norc.org/Research/Projec... (but they will no doubt change their page after this NaturalNews story goes live, which is why we posted a screen shot).

It's all admittedly a way to increase vaccination rates of low-income children

"NORC then sends an Immunization History Questionnaire via mail to these health providers," it says. And once the data are compiled: "These data are used by the CDC and state and local public health agencies to monitor the potential for disease outbreaks at the community level and to allocate resources for the Vaccines for Children (VFC) Program, which ensures that all children in the U.S. have access to vaccinations regardless of financial status."

In other words, the CDC, working on behalf of the drug companies, wants to make sure that all children are vaccinated even if their parents can't afford it. That's government being "helpful" to its slaves, you see. "Public health" has been so perverted and distorted under the government / pharmaceutical collusion regime that instead of teaching people how to prevent disease with nutritious foods, vitamin D and low-cost natural cures, the government is all about injecting infants with vaccines, irradiating women's breasts with mammograms, and outlawing dietary supplements while claiming to be working under the label of "public health."

And now, thanks to the police state tactics being increasingly used by the federal government to enforce vaccines even at gunpoint (as we saw in Maryland), it appears we are about to enter a phase where it's not just TSA reaching down your pants, but CDC running vaccine surveillance and compliance tracking in order to make sure no one goes unvaccinated in America.

Enhanced government surveillance for teen vaccination rates

This vaccine compliance tracking and surveillance program is also being used to target teens and to push for increased vaccination rates using flu vaccines. As NORC admits on its website: "In response to the need for improved surveillance on teen immunization rates, CDC expanded the use of the NIS sampling frame in 2008 to screen households for the presence of teens between 13-17 years of age."

But flu vaccines are scientifically useless and simply don't work on 99 out of 100 people who receive them (http://www.naturalnews.com/029641_v...). Besides, flu vaccines only contain DNA proteins from last year's flu strains, meaning that even if you believe flu vaccines work, they would only be useful to time travelers who go back in time to the previous year's flu season. And this is all in addition to the fact that flu vaccines actually weaken the immune system and make you more vulnerable to future flu infections. (http://www.naturalnews.com/028538_s...)

Flu vaccines also cause seizures (http://www.naturalnews.com/029334_f...), vomiting, fevers and other dangerous or even deadly side effects (http://www.naturalnews.com/029586_A...).

Ties to the military industrial complex

Under a heading called "Advances in Survey Research," NORC adds something that should raise some red flags among privacy advocates, saying "In collaboration with CDC, NORC has spearheaded an ambitious research program to identify best practices for sampling landline and cell telephones and develop valid statistical approaches for weighting and estimation."

Cell phones? Ambitious research programs? This only begins to make sense when you realize that the CDC awarded $5 billion grant money to computer surveillance and weapons contractors to develop aggressive public health (vaccine compliance) surveillance programs (http://www.irconnect.com/noc/press/...). Northrup Grumman is a weapons manufacturer that has been caught by the U.S. State Department selling technology secrets to the Russians and violating international arms trafficking laws by selling computer guidance systems to Israel and China, among other countries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northr...).

If this seems surprising, remember that the Institute of Medicine, another key propaganda mouthpiece for the vaccine industry, is funded in part by the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security. It also receives money from junk food companies and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, an aggressive vaccine-pushing non-profit. This was all exposed in an exclusive NaturalNews article available here: http://www.naturalnews.com/033455_I...

What's clear from all this is that today's government-run "public health" fiasco is really all about the following:

Vaccines - Surveillance - Compliance - Tracking - Military - Weapons

This is all being conducted like a military operation, not a compassionate public health initiative that genuinely seeks to save the lives of children. If the CDC really wanted to save lives, it would aggressively promote vitamin D, which can prevent nearly all winter flu cases, cancer cases (http://www.naturalnews.com/021892.html) and even kidney disease or osteoporosis. But instead of recommending affordable solutions that really work, the CDC focuses its billions of dollars in taxpayer money on tracking household compliance with deadly vaccines.

This is public health? Get real.

Non-compliant households to be added to quarantine list?

What the CDC is also probably not telling you is that people who answer the survey and admit they have not given their children vaccines could in theory be added to a quarantine list to be arrested and thrown into FEMA camps during the next pandemic outbreak.

The recent "terror exercise" in Denver, called Operation Mountain Guardian featured government SWAT teams and armed military-style squads entering public schools and terrorizing children with simulated gunfire and explosions, then conducting secret mass-arrest exercises in a large sports stadium. As Alex Jones explains on InfoWars.com, this is all practice for kidnapping children, taking them to stadiums, then calling parents to come pick them up at which point the parents are then arrested and taken away by law enforcement authorities (http://www.infowars.com/denver-terr...) while the children are turned over to the state.

The children are essentially used as "bait" to arrest parents who happen to be on whatever government "lists" are considered offensive. If your name is on a list provided by the CDC, claiming that you are a "bad parent" because you refuse to vaccinate your children, you could have those children taken away by the state -- at gunpoint!

This is similar to what happened recently with Maryanne Godboldo in Detroit, who was subjected to a 12-hour SWAT team standoff because she refused to medicate her teenage daughter with dangerous psychiatric drugs (http://www.naturalnews.com/032091_M...).

Of course, the CDC claims your privacy will be protected in all this (yeah, right). "Strict U.S. laws require that we protect your family's information and keep it confidential," the CDC's letter says. Importantly, however, there is nothing in the CDC's letter that says it will not violate those laws. So it's really just clever lawyer-speak to say that "laws require we protect your information" without saying the CDC will abide by those laws.

After all, there are strict U.S. laws that prevent the ATF from running guns into Mexico, but it violated those laws anyway (http://www.naturalnews.com/032934_A...). There are strict U.S. laws that require the President to seek Congressional approval for acts of war, but those laws have been violated routinely for decades. There are strict U.S. laws that protect the due process of U.S. citizens, and yet the U.S. is steeped in illegal secret prisons and torture initiatives that were rolled out under Bush and yet have actually been expanded under the Obama administration. In fact, if there's anything we've all learned about watching the federal government over the last decade, it's that the government will openly and brazenly violate whatever laws it wants in order to get what it wants. This is especially true in health care, where the FDA, for its part, openly engaged in illegal international abductions of American citizens (http://www.naturalnews.com/033573_F...) in order to oppress herbal cancer cures that really work.

And the CDC, we all know, wants increased "vaccine compliance" so that vaccine makers earn more profits from selling these deadly injections to parents who have no idea those vaccines are making their children autistic (or even killing them).

The real agenda of this entire vaccine survey becomes crystal clear at the end of the CDC's letter, which pushes a vaccine agenda with the question: "How do I find out more about immunizations and places to get them?" It then gives out a toll-free number to call to "get the phone number of a doctor of clinic near you."

When the CDC calls your house, don't answer

The message is quite clear in all this: We're from the government, we're going to be calling your private home phone number and asking you questions about your child's immunization history. We want you to produce your child's vaccination records. We will also acquire your doctor's vaccine records to find out if you are lying. The information will be used to track vaccine compliance in your area. And if you want to get "compliant," here's a government phone number to call which will direct you to the nearest vaccine center.

If your receive one of these letters from the CDC, the safest thing to do in all this is screen all your phone calls and simply refuse to answer your phone. Just refuse to talk with them at all. After four or five attempts, they will figure you're never home and probably stop calling. Do NOT speak to them and tell them you are opposed to vaccines, or you may suddenly find yourself being visited by Child Protective Services or government thugs wielding loaded firearms pointed at your head. (This is no longer just a theory. It's factually true.)

The vaccine industry, remember, is running a kind of modern-day McCarthyism, where being intelligently opposed to vaccines is a lot like being accused of being a "Communist" back in the McCarthy era. The government is now admittedly using weapons technology companies, phone surveillance techniques, immunization tracking and statistical analysis to find out who is not being vaccinated. These are police state tactics now being used by the vaccine industry -- in collusion with dangerous government mandates and rogue CPS agents -- to attack your freedom of choice and your right to make parental decisions about the health of your child.

And it's all being done under the false Orwellian mantra that "VACCINES ARE THE SOLUTION FOR PUBLIC HEALTH!" It's all a complete lie, of course. Vaccines cause autism, live viral infections, seizures, comas and even deaths. That's because they contain neurologically damaging adjuvants such as aluminum! They also contain "stealth viruses" that can cause cancer and autoimmune disorders. SANE Vax, Inc. recently found HPV vaccines to be contaminated with the rDNA of HPV viral strains (http://www.naturalnews.com/033585_G...), and vaccine manufacturers have been caught placing live viral strains directly into the vaccines! (http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html)

Perhaps even more shockingly, a top Merck vaccine scientist, Dr. Maurice Hilleman, openly admitted that polio vaccines were contaminated with 40 unknown viral strains, including some strains that caused cancer. Read the incredible transcript of this secret recording at: http://www.naturalnews.com/033584_D...

What we are all suffering under today, friends, is a vaccine-pushing police state and its accompanying Ministry of Truth (the CDC and FDA). This is not about public health, it's about injecting infants and maximizing the profits of the vaccine manufacturers, even if countless children and teens are permanently harmed as a result.

Share this story far and wide. Let people know what's really going on with the CDC and vaccine compliance surveillance programs. And keep reading NaturalNews.com for more breaking news articles that reveal the true agenda of the criminally-operated vaccine industry.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: cdc; corruption; donttreadonme; fraud; gardasil; govtabuse; immunization; lping; mandatedvaccines; merck; perrycare; tyranny; vaccinations; vaccines
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1 posted on 09/29/2011 4:46:24 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian
This is trying to deflect from THE REAL PROBLEM.
The problem is the endless stream of infected criminal illegals.

Open Borders Creates Severe Health Concerns: Illegal Immigration Brings Diseases to US
While political and verbal posturing shamelessly continues by Mr. Obama and associates
in the border saga, an on-going border “war” rages. Not only are brave law
enforcement professionals at risk by standing in the gap between illegal aliens, drug
thugs, escaped and released criminals, terrorists, mentally ill, and America’s well-being,
but an insidious health crisis is also flowing across the southern border of America.

Hospital Emergency Departments in border cities are having to battle with new strains of
antibiotic resistant infections, and diseases America basically eradicated many years ago;
diseases like: tuberculosis, pneumonias, staph, parasitic Chagas disease, and leprosy.
Some American cities have prided themselves in becoming “sanctuary cities” opening
their communities to any and all illegal aliens.

Chagas: A devastating parasite that was primarily relegated to Latin America; now prevalent in Los Angeles, California and spreading.

Cysticercosis: Latin America brainworm, and as The Wall Street Journal reported, “In recent years, as the immigration population has spread…
cysticercosis has cropped up in states that have never had to deal with it before, including Iowa, Ohio, Missouri and Oregon.”

Necrotizing fasciitis: Basically a flesh-eating bacterium.

Leprosy: Difficult to believe, but health officials in Maryland, Florida, California,
Louisiana, Texas, New York City, Hawaii are having to battle this heinous disease.

Bedbugs: New strains which are resistant to fumigation.
The New York Times reported, “…bedbugs are spreading throughout New York City like a swarm of locusts…even in top addresses on Park Avenue, Riverside Drive and Helmsley Park Lane.”
These bugs are terrible, they hurt, they suck your blood, and they leave discoloration and soreness. They are spreading into hospitals!

Toxocara roundworm parasite: Can cause blindness and epilepsy.
This parasite is on a dramatic increase, and is being found in many playgrounds.
Multiple hospitals in Los Angeles are reporting rapid increases of seizures and other neurological events caused by tapeworms and related parasites.

2 posted on 09/29/2011 4:50:01 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Scythian

So when does the CDC send out the SWAT teams to smash down doors, shoot the dogs, bust up the place, maim and wound the parent(s) and then forcibly inoculate the children?


3 posted on 09/29/2011 5:09:24 AM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: The Theophilus

Oh, it’s coming... it will all be under the cover of the MSM initially, but one raid is going to go horribly wrong, officers will lose their lives to an ardent supporter of the 2A; next thing you know, another Waco/Ruby Ridge.


4 posted on 09/29/2011 5:13:49 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Scythian

Mine are well into their teens now...I have no idea where their ‘shot cards’ are any more! Tucked away, forgotten, in some drawer somewhere here.


5 posted on 09/29/2011 5:17:30 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly ("Hit 'em again, Todd!!")
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To: Scythian

So just hang up.


6 posted on 09/29/2011 5:18:02 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: Delta 21

No....

Very important to

LAUGH INTO THE PHONE

then hang up....


7 posted on 09/29/2011 5:20:23 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Scythian

I think you politely tell them they have no authority to request such information and hang up. Most people won’t know then canr refuse to answer though.


8 posted on 09/29/2011 5:24:57 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Scythian

This article lost me once it said ‘military industrial complex’.

That’s a favorite conspiracy theory for progressives and truthers.


9 posted on 09/29/2011 5:28:43 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: G Larry

Laugh hysterically in the phone!


10 posted on 09/29/2011 5:34:13 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Scythian

Talk about propaganda. Vaccinations are why many of us are able to debate this topic. Natural News is wrong about several points. I’m a medical professional and the H1N1 influenza PANDEMIC was indeed a PANDEMIC. Check the definition. I cared for many people who were critically ill with that flu.
Second, thimerosal has been virtually removed from our vaccinations for a long time. It is a perservative and had we not used such perservatives in years past, many of us would have died from diptheria, small pox or other communicable diseases.
If you don’t want to be part of a democracy and share your information, just don’t answer the damn phone when the CDC representatives come calling. Don’t spread lies and misinformation like Natural News. They are no better than the entities they verbally assault. Maybe worse.
Ref: http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228


11 posted on 09/29/2011 5:41:36 AM PDT by RL-PAC
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To: Diogenesis

Agree with you about the alien’s bringing in diseases many of which were irradicated in the United States many years ago, however I believe the real purpose behind this aggression is the twisted/torqued perspective of the Left.

The Liberal ideology that we all belong to government, therefore we must comply with the health standards deemed necessary by their government as their government requires us all to be of only the best of health to maximize our productiveness to support their government, and happy to do so even if they have to go so far as to kill us if we aren’t.


12 posted on 09/29/2011 5:43:16 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Scythian

If you quit reading NaturalNews, your blood pressure and anxiety levels would drop.

I’ve been called numerous times from universities conducting surveys. I tell them I am not interested and hang up the phone. End of story.


13 posted on 09/29/2011 5:43:49 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Scythian
We will also acquire your doctor's vaccine records

If you are going to use the power of the federal government to pull the records of my children ... why the &^@*(#!^@ are you calling me?

14 posted on 09/29/2011 5:54:32 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: RL-PAC

http://www.livescience.com/6691-swine-flu-epidemic-wasn.html

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_07/b4166024274721.htm

http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/10/swine-flu-world-health-organization-pandemic-opinions-contributors-henry-i-miller.html?boxes=Homepagechannels

Good try, noob, on your sign up day, but no cigar. By the way, this is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.


15 posted on 09/29/2011 5:56:16 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Still searching for the new tagline!)
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To: Delta 21

I think I’d have to ask them to produce Obama’s shot records and those of his wife and kids.


16 posted on 09/29/2011 6:10:06 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Forced diversity causes dissent!)
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To: Scythian

Ignore their phones calls and their letters...let’s see how far these bassturds will go. Will their jackbooted thugs kick down your door?


17 posted on 09/29/2011 6:16:39 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Diogenesis

Ennis, Texas, is currently undergoing massive exposure to Tuberculosis. I would bet a million dollars someone carried it in from another country.


18 posted on 09/29/2011 6:17:04 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: RL-PAC
RL-PAC
Since Sep 29, 2011

Welcome to FR.

I’m a medical professional and the H1N1 influenza PANDEMIC was indeed a PANDEMIC.
I'm not a medical professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.And there are plenty more stories just like this.
19 posted on 09/29/2011 6:19:10 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Scythian

They’ll get the same answer they got on the census: “NOYFB”.


20 posted on 09/29/2011 6:23:25 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: RL-PAC

They labeled all flu’s that year as H1N1, so you don’t know what you were “caring” for, that was the biggest sham ever.


21 posted on 09/29/2011 6:25:43 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control, which has been comprehensively exposed as a vaccine propaganda organization promoting the interests of drug companies,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I couldn't get past this first sentence. The bias is already evident.

If this anti-vacination movement continues to grow, Americans will learn. Reality will smack them in the face and break their noses.

22 posted on 09/29/2011 6:29:28 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Not to scare you, but I think you may want to know about some of this stuff. Caller ID is your friend.


23 posted on 09/29/2011 6:30:51 AM PDT by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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To: Scythian
CDC has been doing this for years. I participated in one survey, and terminated it before it concluded because I was told at the start of the survey, no personal ID info would be gathered, then near the end, I was asked for personal ID info. I spoke up the ladder to the supervisor, and informed them that I do not like being misled, hence my termination of the interview. I also told them that I would never participate in another CDC survey, based on their misleading conduct.

Got a second survey call years later. Just said "no thanks" and hung up.

24 posted on 09/29/2011 6:35:55 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RL-PAC
Uh oh. You've kicked a hornets nest. You will come to find that there are many posters here on FR who are rabidly (pun intended) opposed to vaccinations for a variety of ignorant reasons. There are people here who believe that HIV has nothing to do with AIDS - it's caused by the prescribed drugs. Then there's the "cancer cures are being suppressed by the pharmaceutical industry" crowd.

It's enough to make you crazy.

25 posted on 09/29/2011 6:40:30 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Scythian

We were sending all of our flu swabs to the state lab for testing. They were testing more than 90% H1N1. We had two deaths in patients less than 25 from the H1N1 at our hospital.


26 posted on 09/29/2011 6:40:41 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Scythian

Oooh, looky here. An anti-vaccine article from an anti-vaccine and “natural,” “new age,” and “alternative medicine” website.


27 posted on 09/29/2011 6:41:06 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: RL-PAC; Scythian; All
...I’m a medical professional and the H1N1 influenza PANDEMIC was indeed a PANDEMIC. Check the definition. ...

H1N1 was a pandemic because WHO redefined the word pandemic

Before definition of pandemic:

After definition of pandemic:


28 posted on 09/29/2011 6:43:40 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: wintertime

The ‘reality’ is that I did receive one of these letters and it is really happening.


29 posted on 09/29/2011 6:46:50 AM PDT by Paytriot (Live long and prosper)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett; oh8eleven; facedown

WHO changes definition of pandemic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2785328/posts?page=28#28


30 posted on 09/29/2011 6:49:14 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: facedown

Yes, it’s very disappointing to discover that one’s friends ain’t quite right in the head.


31 posted on 09/29/2011 6:51:54 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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To: Paytriot
Then throw it in the trash.

The anti-immunization bias of the author was so evident in the first sentence that I didn't bother to read the article.

32 posted on 09/29/2011 6:54:59 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Scythian

well I told the Census Bureau to go pound sand with their Community Survey, and so far no SWAT teams have shown up at my door.


33 posted on 09/29/2011 6:56:23 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: facedown; RL-PAC

I wonder if either of you realize/know that the creator of Natural News promotes some of the same conservative causes and fights some of the same infringements on our liberties that we on Free Republic do?


34 posted on 09/29/2011 6:57:31 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Still searching for the new tagline!)
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To: G Larry

No....

Very important to

LAUGH INTO THE PHONE

then hang up....
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Don’t hang up. Instead ask them if they can hold on a moment and just set the phone down. Come back in a couple of minutes and ask if they are still there, if they are just tell them it will only be a few more minutes and set the phone down again. Repeat. This keeps them from annoying anyone else.


35 posted on 09/29/2011 6:57:52 AM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: algernonpj

Excellent work, I’m so sick of these freaking jerks on here sherking for the drug companies and medical industry. The CDC has been a massive failure, and most of what it is investigating is geared toward the left’s political agenda, such as “fat kids” and so on, just read there stuff in JAMA, it seems each article is a lefty issue, meanwhile, people with real diseases are being mocked and ignored by them.


36 posted on 09/29/2011 7:04:07 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: algernonpj

Yes, I saw your post above. Convenient, isn’t it? (changing the definition, I mean.)


37 posted on 09/29/2011 7:04:30 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Still searching for the new tagline!)
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To: Scythian

Like your post, Scythian. I like Natural News. I am not against all vaccines, just the way they are administered. My daughter is doing an alternative schedule for vaccines for her new baby. No vaccines until age one, and then only one vaccine at a time. Some vaccines really are unnecessary. There is a vaccine for babies for Rotavirus which can be treated successfully with probiotics! Now why would I want to give my baby a vaccine for something that can be resolved with something natural such as a probiotic ~ yogurt?!


38 posted on 09/29/2011 7:10:52 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Still searching for the new tagline!)
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To: Scythian
Scythian, you are a good dude, but this is some really hyperventilating, tin-foil stuff. Interrogations by telephone? Then ease the handset back into the cradle, or flip the cellphone closed. There, problem solved.

Ties to the Industrial Military Complex? Just wow. I mean you could tie ANYTHING to that if you put your mind to it.

The CDC is one of the only decent federal agencies out there.

39 posted on 09/29/2011 7:15:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Michael Moore: Aggressively Hypocritical and Smug About It.)
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To: wintertime
The anti-immunization bias of the author was so evident in the first sentence that I didn't bother to read the article.

Ditto!

The anti-immunization fools need to watch documentaries about what life was like with polio and smallpox, etc. See how children ended up with twisted limbs, paralyzed, or condemned to spend the rest of their lives in iron lungs.

As for me and mine, we'll take our chances with the vaccines.

40 posted on 09/29/2011 7:15:39 AM PDT by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: Scythian
For example, this comment:

What the CDC is also probably not telling you is that people who answer the survey and admit they have not given their children vaccines could in theory be added to a quarantine list to be arrested and thrown into FEMA camps during the next pandemic outbreak.

'In theory'.

Hell, 'in theory' they could come into your house and rape your teenage daughter too.

'In theory'. Sheesh. This is hyperventilation and hyperbole at it's finest.

41 posted on 09/29/2011 7:17:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Michael Moore: Aggressively Hypocritical and Smug About It.)
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To: algernonpj

Gooood catch. How feckin’ convenient for them.


42 posted on 09/29/2011 7:24:16 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Yep, probably came from other misinformed organizations who spread dissent in America, like Natural News. Again, I take you back to the definition of PANDEMIC.


43 posted on 09/29/2011 7:49:02 AM PDT by RL-PAC
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To: My hearts in London - Everett; Scythian
... Some vaccines really are unnecessary. There is a vaccine for babies for Rotavirus which can be treated successfully with probiotics! Now why would I want to give my baby a vaccine for something that can be resolved with something natural such as a probiotic ~ yogurt?!

IIRC, good hygiene (hand washing, soap and water) and cleanliness alone will prevent many cases of Rotavirus.

What ticks me off is those who equate that unnecessary vaccine for Rotavirus with saying no to a vaccine for a disease that is easily spread through casual contact AND causes high numbers of death and severe disability AND that one is likely to be exposed to.
44 posted on 09/29/2011 8:04:01 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: RL-PAC; oh8eleven
Yep, probably came from other misinformed organizations who spread dissent in America, like Natural News. Again, I take you back to the definition of PANDEMIC.

RL-PAC
Since you obviously didn't read my post, here's a review:

WHO changed the definition of PANDEMIC from:
"An influenza pandemic occurs when a new influenza virus appears against which the human population has no immunity, resulting in several, simultaneous epidemics worldwide with enormous numbers of deaths and illness. With the increase in global transport and communications, as well as urbanization and overcrowded conditions, epidemics due the new influenza virus are likely to quickly take hold around the world (emphasis added)".

TO:
"A disease epidemic occurs when there are more cases of that disease than normal. A pandemic is a worldwide epidemic of a disease. An influenza pandemic may occur when a new influenza virus appears against which the human population has no immunity. With the increase in global transport, as well as urbanization and overcrowded conditions in some areas, epidemics due to a new influenza virus are likely to take hold around the world, and become a pandemic faster than before. WHO has defined the phases of a pandemic to provide a global framework to aid countries in pandemic preparedness and response planning. Pandemics can be either mild or severe in the illness and death they cause, and the severity of a pandemic can change over the course of that pandemic (emphasis added)."

For screen prints see post above.
45 posted on 09/29/2011 8:11:34 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: whd23; Scythian
... The anti-immunization fools need to watch documentaries about what life was like with polio and smallpox, etc. See how children ended up with twisted limbs, paralyzed, or condemned to spend the rest of their lives in iron lungs.

As for me and mine, we'll take our chances with the vaccines.


Ah the small pox and polio cards.

And the last time you and your family were innoculated for small pox or polio was .....

IIRC small pox vaccine has not been routine in the US since before the 1970's and polio is not recommended for adults.
46 posted on 09/29/2011 8:24:19 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj
What ticks me off is those who equate that unnecessary vaccine for Rotavirus with saying no to a vaccine for a disease that is easily spread through casual contact AND causes high numbers of death and severe disability AND that one is likely to be exposed to.

Huh?

The CDC says that prior to the rotavirus vaccine, almost every child in the US could expect to become infected with the virus before their 5th birthday. Prior to the vaccine, rotavirus was responsible for more than 400,000 doctor visits; more than 200,000 emergency room visits and 55,000 to 70,000 hospitalizations every year in the USA just in children under 5 years old. It's unfortunate that all these folks weren't aware that they simply needed to wash their hands with soap and water more often or eat more yogurt! What a bunch of uninformed nonsense.

Globally, rotavirus is responsible for killing 500,000 infants and children every year. Since the rotavirus vaccine was commercialized in 2006, the rate of hospitalization from rotavirus infections has dropped more than 75% in the US.

Yeah, the vaccine is totally unnecessary. Good grief, why is it the people who know the least about a topic are always the first to offer opinion as fact about it? Luddites are a trip.

47 posted on 09/29/2011 8:31:11 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: algernonpj

It appears you’ve never heard of community immunity. Luddites tend to ignore these kinds of concepts even though they benefit greatly from them. It’s a good thing public health in this country is being managed by people smarter than the average Luddite.


48 posted on 09/29/2011 8:37:03 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
It appears you’ve never heard of community immunity

Real cute, trying to get me to defend something I never said. FYI the term generally used is herd immunity.

It’s a good thing public health in this country is being managed by people smarter than the average Luddite.

Highly questionable assumption on your part.
49 posted on 09/29/2011 8:43:01 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: RL-PAC

Uh, this isn’t supposed to be a democracy. While I disagree with the anti-vaccine movement, I don’t trust the gov, especially the Obama Regime. Hi newbie. For all I know, yo work for Cass Sunstein.


50 posted on 09/29/2011 8:51:13 AM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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