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Sunday.. Sunday.. Sunday .. Pastors Preach Politics From Pulpit.. Can you do that in America ?
cbs47 ^ | 9-30-11 | cakid1

Posted on 09/30/2011 9:26:11 PM PDT by cakid1

Pastors Preach Politics From Pulpit

Can you do that in America?

That's the question hundreds of Pastors will try and get to the bottom of this Sunday.

On Sunday - 400 pastors will use their pulpits to preach politics.

Part of the goal is to challenge the Internal Revenue Service's regulations that restrict religious leaders from endorsing candidates and discussing policies with their congregations.

"On Pulpit Freedom Day, registered pastors are encouraged to videotape themselves speaking to their congregations about the Scripture, politics and political candidates, and mail those videos to the IRS. "

"The Pastors are ready to defend their right to preach on those topics without the threat of the IRS taking away their 501(c)(3) nontaxable status has been threatened in court."

"Our goal has always been ... to have the Johnson amendment declared unconstitutional.."

.. The Johnson amendment - comes from the 1954 tax amendment passed by then..

(Excerpt) Read more at community.cbs47.tv ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion
KEYWORDS: pastorschurch
Wonder 'which' pastors the IRS will go after.. Hmmm
1 posted on 09/30/2011 9:26:16 PM PDT by cakid1
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To: cakid1

Yes. It is called free speech. A good idea is to not register your church with the IRS at all.


2 posted on 09/30/2011 9:29:00 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: cakid1
They would be better off and so would their congregations if they just preached Christ crucified.
3 posted on 09/30/2011 9:31:00 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: cakid1
They would be better off and so would their congregations if they just preached Christ crucified.
4 posted on 09/30/2011 9:31:15 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: cakid1

The Rev Wright had no problem with this.


5 posted on 09/30/2011 9:35:00 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Patrick1

Notice all the political preaching that goes on in black churches? Especially during election season.


6 posted on 09/30/2011 9:45:39 PM PDT by Son-Joshua (son-joshua)
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To: Patrick1

I agree. I asked my pastor every week to leave out the politics and just preach on the gospel, it took a whole year but it has been months since he’s brought up politics.


7 posted on 09/30/2011 9:47:51 PM PDT by tiki
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To: GeronL; cakid1

The only two things really worth talking about are religion and politics, and at some point they are intertwined; although I would not conflate the Flag with the Cross.

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and unto God what is God’s.


8 posted on 09/30/2011 9:51:44 PM PDT by One Name
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To: cakid1

If the politics mentioned refer to sin and salvation, good for them...if just politics not really relevant...just my opinion...that covers a lot of territory...


9 posted on 09/30/2011 10:12:16 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Patrick1
They would be better off and so would their congregations if they just preached Christ crucified.

Are you saying there was no politics in Christ crucified?

10 posted on 09/30/2011 10:13:35 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

No, I’m saying you preach the transforming power of Jesus Christ. Or in other words you preach about the permanent and not worry so much about the temporary.


11 posted on 09/30/2011 10:20:53 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: GeronL
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Boy, oh boy ...

These Pastors can have ALL the free speech they want ...

Just jettison their IRS 501 C-3 tax-exempt status ... wherein they trade they "free speech" right from the pulpit ... in exchange for the US Government's "30 pieces of silver" ... tax-exempt status ...

Just ask Jay Sekulow at the American Center for Law and Justice ...

We get these lame compliants from churches EVERY couple of years ...

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12 posted on 09/30/2011 10:35:53 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: GeronL
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Boy, oh boy ...

These Pastors can have ALL the free speech they want ...

Just jettison their IRS 501 C-3 tax-exempt status ... wherein they trade they "free speech" right from the pulpit ... in exchange for the US Government's "30 pieces of silver" ... tax-exempt status ...

Just ask Jay Sekulow at the American Center for Law and Justice ...

We get these lame compliants from churches EVERY couple of years ...

Church lawyers and pastors ALWAYS fail to tell their Congregations that IRS 501 C-3 (tax exempt status) is VOLUNTARY ...
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13 posted on 09/30/2011 10:38:39 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Patrick1
No, I’m saying you preach the transforming power of Jesus Christ. Or in other words you preach about the permanent and not worry so much about the temporary.

It is Written that Christ's tongue is a two edged sword, it cuts both sides, left and right. The preacher/priest class have become so 'politically correct' few ever get around to teaching what is temporary and what is required to enter the permanent.

14 posted on 09/30/2011 10:47:59 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Patrick1

This country would be better off if they taught Christ RISEN.

Sadly, there are few Pastors like Dietrich Bonhoeffer left today who understand that evil must be confronted by being spoken out against.

Churches need to do far more than just preaching the basic “feel good” facts of the gospel. They need to teach people how to apply the Word of God to every aspect of their lives.

That means taking the Holy Spirit with you when you go out, when you go in your bedroom, AND when you go into the voting booth.


15 posted on 10/01/2011 3:25:20 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Patrick1; Just mythoughts

“No, I’m saying you preach the transforming power of Jesus Christ. Or in other words you preach about the permanent and not worry so much about the temporary.”

While I don’t disagree with the premise, politics transcends just “who you vote for”.
We would not be the United States of America without the work of the Black Regiment. Look it up.
Biblical morality and spiritual regeneration convert our whole lives. The left has been using the argument that being a Christian should not affect our voting.
The American people have been brainwashed by the left for the last 70 years to the point that we have elected Obama. We have been taught to not discriminate in ANY circumstance so now the American people can not discern between good and evil.


16 posted on 10/01/2011 5:15:20 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Patrick1

First Chief Justice John Jay, in retirement from the US supreme Court- about the same time he was President of the American Bible Society—in a letter to The Rev. Dr.Morse 1 Jan.1813-”Although the mere expediency of public measures may not be a proper subject for the pulpit,yet in my opinion, it is the right and the duty of our pastors to press the observance of all moral and religious duties and to animadvert on every course of conduct which may be repugnant to them.” p.352 The Life of John Jay,by his son Wm Jay , American Foundation publications ,2000.Earlier in that same letter John Jay responded to a question asked by Dr.Morse. “whether our religion permits Christians to vote for infidel rulers, is a question which merits more consideration than it seems yet to have generally received , either from the clergy or the laity. It appears to me,
(and he does not answer as would be expected today)that what the prophet said to Jehoshaphat about his attachment to Ahab,*( do you know what that was? the publisher noted “Shouldst Thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the Lord?” -2 Chron.xix.2 ) I agree with John Jay— do you?


17 posted on 10/01/2011 6:21:53 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: GeronL

We avoid churches with ministers who don’t discuss politics, at least occasionally. Morals, Christianity, politics, etc., are all woven together in a person’s mindset and character. A minister can’t NOT preach politics and be effective in this day and age.


18 posted on 10/01/2011 6:30:23 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: cakid1

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution recognizes both freedom of speech and freedom of religion (including freedom FROM a state-sponsored church). So let the preacher preach politics; if you disagree with him, show your disapproval by (a) withholding your contribution, or (b) finding another church.

As to the increasing interference by the I.R. S., the answer is simple. Repeal the 16th Amendment.


19 posted on 10/01/2011 6:43:41 AM PDT by ixtl (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: Patrick1

Any educated Patriot ought read the two volumes of Political Sermons of the American Founding Era 1730-1805 Ellis Sandoz editor ,Second Edition Liberty Fund ,1998 Unless an American has some limited understanding of hte Bible and of th erole Religion played in our Founding -See the Library of Congress Display James H.Hutson prepared in 1998 Religion and the Founding of the American Republic; They also might benefit from the work by Charles S.Hyneman and Donald S.Lutz American Political Writings During the Founding Era 1760-1805 2 Vol.Liberty Press ,1983 If we are to be Americans again we must first understand what our forefathers believed was acceptable.


20 posted on 10/01/2011 8:46:40 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: MayflowerMadam

bump

There aren’t any unregistered churches around here at the moment, I’d be there every week if there were.


21 posted on 10/01/2011 12:07:33 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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