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I think the primaries are being moved up to force Palin to declare sooner than she intends...
10/01/2011 | E. Pluribus Unum

Posted on 10/01/2011 9:31:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

I believe that the ruling class politicians see Palin as a real threat to their status quo, and her postponement of announcing her candidacy as a hindrance to their stopping her.

One way to force her hand earlier than she intends is to move up the primaries.

Anybody else see a pattern here?


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To: dmz

The speculation is on teh part of the press. Post 170 speaks to good reasons why she has held back. Among others good reasons.


201 posted on 10/01/2011 12:06:45 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The peeps most *concerned* are those who don’t support her, or fear her candidacy, so it’s more than accurate to call them PDSers or Palin trolls. Those peeps could simply ignore Palin threads, but they flock to them to disrput, so when they’re called out for it, they claim victimhood or shock.

LOL.


202 posted on 10/01/2011 12:06:53 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR so, support it! If you support Sarah Palin, & want on her ping list, let me know!)
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To: mrspeelwerneeded

I think she’s running out the clock. Oops, sorry, time ran out.


203 posted on 10/01/2011 12:09:02 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: onyx

And it happens over and over. They ignore other peoples freedom to choose, free from their interference. They share that with liberals, agree with them or suffer the insults.


204 posted on 10/01/2011 12:09:56 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
How much is he paying her a year for her nothing interviews.

One million dollars per year. I believe she has a 3 year, 3 million dollar contract that runs till the end of 2012. That contract carries her through the primaries AND the Nov 2012 election. If Palin gave any indication she was preparing for a campaign, Ailes has said he would suspend her just the way he did Santorum and Gingrich.

205 posted on 10/01/2011 12:10:06 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’d like to be able to dismiss this out of hand and tell you they’re not that dumb...except for the fact that there are at least a few Republican pols and operatives who are, in fact, that dumb. And even her detractors know it.

If that’s why they’re doing it, it’s extremely unwise. Even to let the thought linger any longer than it would take to say “No, we’re not doing it to sandbag her, Florida just wants to be first-in-the-nation” is brain-dead. At the end of the day, they need Palin supporters’ votes a lot more than they need to stick it in her and her supporters’ collective eye. That’s not a threat, that’s just simple political fact.


206 posted on 10/01/2011 12:15:48 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: onyx; DJ MacWoW
Tell you what, they (MSM, PDSers, trolls, dupes of trolls) have gotten so totally repetitive and boring, doesn't even bother me in the least anymore.

Sarah is going to do whatever she's going to do in her own time and way, good enough for me.

207 posted on 10/01/2011 12:16:56 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Conservativegreatgrandma:
"Palin needs to be worshiping at the feet of Roger Ailes."

Ailes is McGinniss' BF. Where are YOU from?

----> McGinniss has been friends with Roger Ailes for 44 years


208 posted on 10/01/2011 12:19:40 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

So? Maybe there’s another conspiracy in here somewhere.


209 posted on 10/01/2011 12:25:52 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; Diogenesis

Dio, she’s a PDSer. Facts mean nothing. Only opinion and spin do.


210 posted on 10/01/2011 12:29:16 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
My guess is that your primary source of information is Katie Couric.

If she's not going to run, then apparently believe that she wants to alienate all her supporters forever.

If you actually believe she is that dumb, then you haven't been paying attention to anybody except Katie Couric and Dr. Phil.

So she's been taking meetings with policy and political experts?

She's been assembling a professional team to help her win?

If she were it would have leaked out.

Either she's not going to run, or she's going to be half-*ss*d about it.

You must be one of those people who thought Fred Thompson was just dying to run for president -- he'd alienate his supporters forever if he didn't, and of course he wouldn't want that.

Here's a tip: not everybody -- not even the politician you make like or admire or agree with the most -- is as keen on not alienating you as you apparently are in not being alienated.

211 posted on 10/01/2011 12:29:16 PM PDT by x
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

The leader of the people pushing this thing is none other than the grand pubah of RINOs, Mel Martinez. So you tell me what their intentions are when considering his record.


212 posted on 10/01/2011 12:31:12 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: MindBender26

*sigh*


213 posted on 10/01/2011 12:46:03 PM PDT by misharu (US Congress: Children without adult supervision.)
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To: x
If she were it would have leaked out.

If it had leaked out the GOP ruling class would have cut her off at the knees by now.

You don't get it. The GOP ruling class ALWAYS chooses the candidate. This time it is Milt's turn. He's one of them. He belongs to the club.

If you don't want the same old thing, DON'T DO THE SAME OLD THING.

If Palin was not going to run, she would have said so long ago. She knows that if she strings her supporters along just to let them down, she is done forever.

Just be practical about this; do you really believe she's that dumb?

If you do, then you probably believe a Tina Fey quote is the same thing as a Sarah Palin quote.

214 posted on 10/01/2011 12:49:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

LOL, her poker face has you all fooled. She will run. Be patient and watch what transpires. I will be good.


215 posted on 10/01/2011 1:01:39 PM PDT by lwoodham (There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I’ve actually looked at what she’s done and who she is. Have you?

Yes, I have. AS I've said numerous times, she says some things I agree with. However, so do other politicians and quite a few of those don't quite have the baggage she does.

Last time I checked, you don't win with 30% of the electorate.
216 posted on 10/01/2011 1:19:20 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: DJ MacWoW

That’s right, calling idiotic conspiracy theories idiotic is trolling.

Only in your little world.


217 posted on 10/01/2011 1:20:15 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m going to remember this quote when she gets in or not. Either I will bump it so I can laugh at you mercilessly or I will apologize.

She’s not running. You’re going to be very disappointed.


218 posted on 10/01/2011 1:25:04 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: Charles Henrickson

What date is she going to announce?? Well, I can't answer that but be assured I will be watching for her at 8 p.m. EDT a week from Monday. It's the night before a full moon and she just might appear. You betcha!

(and on that day, lots of others will be watching for her too!)

219 posted on 10/01/2011 1:25:45 PM PDT by CedarDave (My Sarah prediction: Announcing for President between October 12 and 28.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Dude, you can’t organize a national political campaign in complete secrecy!


220 posted on 10/01/2011 1:46:35 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

Bookmarked. Dude.


221 posted on 10/01/2011 1:49:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Calling people deranged is not “simply disagreeing”.


222 posted on 10/01/2011 1:52:39 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Palin or Perry, whoever is ahead in the delegate count on primary day)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Harassing people one disagrees with is not sane. We criticize the left for their antics and them ape them?


223 posted on 10/01/2011 1:54:51 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: precisionshootist
She is dangerously close to losing the trust of the conservatives that supported her up until now. It time for the game playing to end.

True conservatives don't give up that easily, dear. She hasn't lost their support and you know it. True conservatives don't believe the Mouthpiece Media. False conservatives never really supported Sarah Palin in the first place. False conservatives think that Sarah Palin is "playing games" and are overly concerned about her. It's really time for your game playing to end, p-shooter.

224 posted on 10/01/2011 2:19:52 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They really must be desperate to stop the ascension of Sarah Palin!

I had no idea how desperate socialist could become after they are given a short pleasure trip of money, promises and a spokesperson in the Whitehouse.


225 posted on 10/01/2011 2:23:20 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Sarah Palin and John Bolton--- 2012)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think you theory is plausible. The Establishment has no morality whatsoever and will do anything to maintain its grip on our country and extend it.

Sarah is a real threat to them. She is outsmarting them. She knows the truth about them and tells it palinly. She’s a rallying point for all of us.


226 posted on 10/01/2011 2:40:44 PM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

*****
Palin supporters have been getting crap for 3 years. Tell me why PDSers come on thread after thread and regurgitate MSM talking points endlessly. (no. that doesn’t mean you) They do it to discourage, defame Palin and throw flame-bait. After 3 years do you HONESTLY think we should be POLITE?
*****
Yes.
Why wouldn’t you be polite?


227 posted on 10/01/2011 3:18:19 PM PDT by Calif Conservative (rwr and gwb backer)
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To: Calif Conservative
Post 132

I should probably update that. And that is just one persons posts.

228 posted on 10/01/2011 3:23:09 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I think the primaries are being moved up to force Palin to declare sooner than she intends...


229 posted on 10/01/2011 4:29:56 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: precisionshootist

Sir,I could sit back in my chair, watch the football game, and not pay any attention to folks like you and mindbender IF you would just say “I don’t THINK she’s running”. OK! That’s fair enough. Your opinion is as valid as anybody’s!

But, for you guys, and many, many like you, to say she just ‘is not’ running and even on the same thread is a bit much.

No, neither of you “know” she IS NOT running. MAYBE Todd and Chuck Sr. know but I would wager no one else does............except maybe God himself and you and mindbender aren’t god !!


230 posted on 10/01/2011 4:57:48 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I believe that the ruling class politicians see Palin as a real threat to their status quo, and her postponement of announcing her candidacy as a hindrance to their stopping her. One way to force her hand earlier than she intends is to move up the primaries. Anybody else see a pattern here?

You are really jumping the shark, E. Pluribus Unum.

You're So Vain, You Probably Think This Song Is About You

Sometimes, the decision of a State of 18 million people is about the interests of 18 million people and not about you or Sarah.

231 posted on 10/01/2011 7:38:25 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama should be Priority Number One)
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To: Longbow1969
Do you not see the box you've painted yourself into? You are saying with absolute certainty that Palin is running because she wouldn't string her followers along this long if she wasn't.

Clearly put Longbow. 100% logic. I wish articles in the media were as well written as your post.

It is an odd situation with Palin, but I think that in a few weeks it will all blow over and be forgotten. IMO, she will not be a candidate.

232 posted on 10/01/2011 7:42:32 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: rabscuttle385; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Impy; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; calcowgirl; ...
Above : The Republican party is moving up their whole 50 state primary to force Palin to start her campaign early so she cant announce at the optimum time for her advantage.

Holy crap! They are on to her strategy, LOL, this just further proves she is a threat!

233 posted on 10/01/2011 8:25:45 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: Longbow1969; Conservativegreatgrandma
RE :”One million dollars per year. I believe she has a 3 year, 3 million dollar contract that runs till the end of 2012. That contract carries her through the primaries AND the Nov 2012 election. If Palin gave any indication she was preparing for a campaign, Ailes has said he would suspend her just the way he did Santorum and Gingrich.

She isnt happy with the ‘election’ coverage she is getting at FNC at all. Megyn Kelly said she was ‘way down in the polls’ showing a polls of the candidates ; later Palin on Greta called it misinformation and personal bias by Kelly citing the qoute.

Sarah Palin Attacks Fox News

234 posted on 10/01/2011 8:34:32 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: onyx

LOVING that photo!!! Classic. She will indeed have the last laugh.


235 posted on 10/01/2011 9:29:36 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege (Palin 2012)
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To: sickoflibs

Megyn Kelly poses in a lingerie dress for GQ magazine while Palin is about to be leader of the free world. Palin is way out of Kelly ‘s (and others like her) league. Can’t wait till Palin breaks her contract with trashy Fox News.


236 posted on 10/01/2011 9:35:10 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege (Palin 2012)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Yes, indeed she will.


237 posted on 10/01/2011 9:35:27 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR so, support it! If you support Sarah Palin, & want on her ping list, let me know!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege; Longbow1969; Conservativegreatgrandma; indylindy; reaganaut; Impy; ...
RE:”Megyn Kelly poses in a lingerie dress for GQ magazine while Palin is about to be leader of the free world. Palin is way out of Kelly ‘s (and others like her) league. Can’t wait till Palin breaks her contract with trashy Fox News.

Yes, how dare Megyn Kelly show the results of a poll that makes it look like Palin couldnt possibly win the primary if she ever even intended to run. This is just more proof that Sarah is a threat to them all. Just like Republicans moving up the primary to force her to announce to stop her from announcing. It's all a grand conspiracy. Please world stop spinning until Sarah tells us it's OK

Thanks for the laugh.

238 posted on 10/01/2011 10:01:28 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
RE :"Megyn Kelly poses in a lingerie dress for GQ magazine.."

You just dream Palin looked anything like that LOL

239 posted on 10/01/2011 10:03:56 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Didn’t think about this but I think you are absolutely right!


240 posted on 10/01/2011 10:11:33 PM PDT by SarahPalinForPresident2012 (She's runnin')
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To: sickoflibs
It's all a grand conspiracy. Please world stop spinning until Sarah tells us it's OK

Read C4P sometime, it will really open your eyes at how deep in to the cult of Palin some people have sunk. They really do think the entire political world revolves around Sarah. They think everyone is afraid of her and any criticism is a desperate attempt to slow down her soon to be meteoric rise to the White House. The delusion is absolutely complete. These people are 100% certain she is going to throw her hat in the ring, and the most common reason given is that she would not have waited this long if she wasn't running (you see that same argument made here by some of her supporters). If Governor Palin does not run for President (and I don't think she will), the meltdown among her supporters is going to be epic and incredibly ugly. I suspect at this point, that is why Palin is delaying letting her people down.

241 posted on 10/01/2011 10:18:36 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969; indylindy; reaganaut; Impy; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; mrreaganaut; ...
RE :”Read C4P sometime, it will really open your eyes at how deep in to the cult of Palin some people have sunk. They really do think the entire political world revolves around Sarah

Read it? I posted one C4P myself yesterday. It is getting funnier and funnier there. In the below they speculated that her saying on Greta that she "didnt need a 'title' like president" was really a coded message about a third party run.

Which Title Doesn’t Governor Palin Need? (Theory: she was talking a third party run)

But better yet the day before they (C4P) said the same interview was a big head fake to make the bad people like Megyn Kelly (”Enemies of Sarah’) think that she would not run, so she can surprise them and announce Sept 9. But the real faithful believers would not be fooled. Rather biblical sounding wouldnt you say?

Governor Palin is Still Alley Cat Smart [C4P’s John Smith on Sarah Palin’s recent “head fake”]

To repeat my self because it sounded good reading it: "It's all a grand conspiracy. Please world stop spinning until Sarah tells us it's OK"

242 posted on 10/01/2011 10:39:54 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: sickoflibs; campaignPete R-CT; Dengar01; stephenjohnbanker; E. Pluribus Unum

Do the stars shine only for Sarah?

E Plur, Florida wants to go earlier so they can have more of an impact, period. They are jealous of the early states, all of which are much smaller in population. The other early states will move earlier still, so they can remain before Florida. It has as much to do with Palin as it does with the orbits of the moons of Jupiter.

Some states have been frustrated with the (absurd and haphazard in my opinion) primary process for a long time. Don’t you remember what happened with Florida and Michigan in 2008?


243 posted on 10/01/2011 10:50:24 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Are you saying they didnt do this just to foil Sarah’s grand secret strategy?? :)


244 posted on 10/01/2011 10:53:53 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: sickoflibs

You know the real reason they haven’t expanded instant reply in baseball? It has to do with Palin. The conspiracy is vaster than we can possibly imagine.


245 posted on 10/01/2011 10:58:31 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: sickoflibs
It is getting funnier and funnier there.

Honestly, I find it extremely disappointing. Mostly because it confirms to me that people of all ideologies are pretty much equally capable of falling into cult like behavior. Part of me always assumed that conservatives were mostly too smart for that considering we are more the rugged individualists, but seeing Sarah's fanatical followers is just a reminder that human nature is what it is and people of all stripes can become blinded by a personality to the point they lose all ability to be rational.

No politician, even our favorites are above criticism. When they screw up, we should say so. When they say dumb things or make mistakes, we should be willing to call them out. For example, I thought Perry looked like a good option but have no problem attacking his miserable debate performances and expressing concerns about his inability to communicate effectively. You rarely see even constructive criticism of Palin from her supporters here and certainly not on sites like C4P (where you'd just be banned for such heresy). In fact, they react with outrage at the tiniest perceived slight. Yes, Palin has been ripped apart often unfairly and in the most vile manner, so I can sort of see the reason for some of the persecution complex - but her fanatics just take it way over the top and to the point they think she can do no wrong. It's just disappointing to watch.

246 posted on 10/01/2011 11:03:16 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah, all anybody anywhere in American politics is thinking about 100% of the time is palin(™) and when she will announce that she is coming to save us.


247 posted on 10/02/2011 6:29:26 AM PDT by wtc911
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To: wardaddy
indeed ..they have orchestatred the entire GOP process state by state not to find a nominee but to thwart Sarah Palin

Well, no, that's not a full statement of the theory, and any theory only half-presented can be made to look ridiculous. To add a few more key terms, assume there is a Republican elite, and further assume that Mittens is their man. No need at this point to argue about why, but I'm guessing it has to do with being able to control him. Anyway, if Romney is the objective, Palin is probably the single biggest threat to that objective. Yes, that last point is also an assumption, but it must have some merit or Palin would not be a target of interest to establishment hacks like Rove, Erickson, et al. And there are other lines of analysis supporting that idea as well. Bottom line, if Palin could obstruct Romney, and I believe she can, it makes perfect sense from a game theory point of view for the establishment to attempt to give Romney an advantage in the Romney-Palin matchup. Not a conspiracy theory. Just good gamesmanship. Though personally I think it is too little too late. The latent support for Palin is more than Team Romney is prepared to handle, as will become evident shortly. IMHO.

248 posted on 10/02/2011 6:40:18 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; rabscuttle385; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Impy; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ..
I want you to look at the following ink blots and tell me what you see.

Palin is running!
Palin is running!
Palin is running!
Palin is running!
Palin is running!
I think the primaries are being moved up to force Palin to declare sooner than she intends!

249 posted on 10/02/2011 6:58:28 AM PDT by BufordP
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To: BufordP

ROTFLMAO


250 posted on 10/02/2011 6:59:24 AM PDT by ToxicMich (If I catch you sleeping in this space AGAIN, I'M GONNA KICK YOUR # "?/%")
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