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Minn. Man Kills Self In His Car After Losing Job
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Posted on 10/02/2011 12:02:25 PM PDT by traumer

Edited on 10/02/2011 12:15:53 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

BURNSVILLE, Minn. (AP) Burnsville police say a Northfield man who had just lost his job committed suicide in front of former colleagues by locking himself in his car and shooting himself in the head.

Fifty-one-year-old Patrick Joseph Graves was still alive Thursday morning when officers arrived. He died about an hour later at a hospital.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: collapse; decline; manhating; revolution; suicide
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1 posted on 10/02/2011 12:02:26 PM PDT by traumer
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Sad case, the gentleman must have had few expectations of being hired elsewhere and may have thought the company would even have blocked his unemployment compensation. I guess liberalism doesn’t solve everything in MN.


2 posted on 10/02/2011 12:04:51 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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Awful news and tragic unnecessary ending of a life. Give him some credit in that the life he took was his own and not others...


3 posted on 10/02/2011 12:05:38 PM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: traumer

This is very sad, clearly a case of situational depression suicide. There are a lot of things a person can recover from, but this is not one of them. I am a human being, not a human doing. Prayers for this poor man and his family.


4 posted on 10/02/2011 12:05:44 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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May the Lord bring the loved ones and those who saw this terrible deed comfort and peace.


5 posted on 10/02/2011 12:08:55 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: traumer

Also, a lot of courts will not lower your child support payments. It’s either pay or jail even if you’re not working.


6 posted on 10/02/2011 12:09:33 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (I can only be series in a parallel universe.)
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To: traumer

“shooting himself in the head [..] still alive Thursday morning”

That must have hurt


7 posted on 10/02/2011 12:10:07 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Theodore R.

I am sure there were deeper psychological problems before he lost the job.

so sad


8 posted on 10/02/2011 12:11:23 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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“Jill Murphy says Graves received an unexpectedly poor performance review Monday and was fired Thursday. “

There’s that pesky ‘UNEXPECTED’ again...if only we could fire this kenyan Klown from the WH.


9 posted on 10/02/2011 12:12:26 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: Larry Lucido

“Also, a lot of courts will not lower your child support payments. It’s either pay or jail even if you’re not working.”

I see. That must have killed quite a few men by now. Or inspired them to crime.


10 posted on 10/02/2011 12:13:35 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: traumer

Middle-aged guy in my neighborhood did that last Thanksgiving. He had lost his job, exhausted his unemployment, couldn’t get another job, had run through is savings, and was facing the loss of his house. He had been fairly successful, but no one would hire him due to his age. His wife said he had tried to get a job as a stock boy at the grocery store and at places like Staples, Costco, etc., but was turned down for those too. The constant rejection just crushed his spirit. When he killed himself the insurance allowed his wife and kids to stay in the house, which I suppose was part of his motivation. I guess there are some insurance policies that don’t have a suicide exclusion if the policy has been in place for a certain time. It was terribly sad. He did it right after Thanksgiving dinner, going out onto a country road in his car. He didn’t want that to be the last Thanksgiving his family would have in that house—but what sad, disordered thinking! Surely every Thanksgiving has been poisoned for them now. What a tragedy. And how sad that a man who had had a good career for many years could never find another job.

During the recession of 1982 (?) a guy who lived across the street from me did the same, with the same result. Killed himself with carbon monoxide poisoning in the garage while his wife and kids were out. His wife found him. The horror of finding him did something to her; it seemed like there was a part of her heart that got permanently broken. She was a nice woman and loved her husband.


11 posted on 10/02/2011 12:18:03 PM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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Fear of jail and knowing that one cannot take care of their children may CAUSE one to have psychological problems.

I know it would for me.


12 posted on 10/02/2011 12:22:29 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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Rather than giving people long term unemployment I would prefer to see an employment program of last resort. People need to know there is somewhere they can go to work for self respect some income when they are unable to find a public sector job after a couple of months.


13 posted on 10/02/2011 12:28:28 PM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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(and) some


14 posted on 10/02/2011 12:29:19 PM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: traumer

Permanent solution to a temporary problem.


15 posted on 10/02/2011 12:34:56 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: traumer

My wife and I saw this last night:

The Company Men
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1172991/
The story centers on a year in the life of three men trying to survive a round of corporate downsizing at a major company - and how that affects them, their families, and their communities.

It could have been better but the overall message was interesting and timely.


16 posted on 10/02/2011 12:45:55 PM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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The sad part of all this stress is the cold hard fact that most people know in their hearts our president is not being sincere about wanting America to rebound. His agenda is quite different from what he says in his town halls and the hurting part of this reality is that many in the media understand his true feelings and will say nothing, nor will they question him about his motives and his misguided group of Czars.


17 posted on 10/02/2011 12:51:33 PM PDT by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: traumer

Sad. RIP.


18 posted on 10/02/2011 12:58:52 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: Average Al

You know, that’s not actually a bad idea at all. I like it. And let’s say it’s not government make-work jobs, but private sector jobs that are modest in responsibility and pay, but need to be done.


19 posted on 10/02/2011 1:06:03 PM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: RandallFlagg
Fear of jail and knowing that one cannot take care of their children may CAUSE one to have psychological problems.

I know it would for me.


Yeah, I understand that as well. I think there should be some forebearance on child support for a person who is unemployed as long as there is proof that he/she is trying their best to look for work. I believe in owning up to that responsibility in taking care of your kids but still, you cannot get blood from a stone.
20 posted on 10/02/2011 1:09:15 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("People should not fear their government, their government should fear the people." - V for Vendetta)
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